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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > In the good old days men wanted to put women up on a pedestal Author Post fjaeril Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/11/2004 5:09:33 PM   In the good old days men wanted to put women up on a pedestal now they want to put her under one. (who is supposed to wash the floor around the 'throne' in your bathroom when you insist on urinating standing - even though you are myopic and have a bad aim?) jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/11/2004 5:24:58 PM   Noone is asking these women to be subject to menial roles. And who nominated you to be the hostile feminazi voice that tells us all about the world. Men do dirty work. Women do dirty work. No one is asking that women be be put-down. It sounds to me like you have personal issues - like you can't find a decent guy? Its because you set ridiculous definitions (and have a really stupid sense of humor). You want the best of both male and female roles and to be worshiped too - while giving nothing yourself. You are obnoxious and belittling, and quite frankly even if you were young,slim and attractive (which I am guessing that you are none of), your pushy personaility would be enough to make any decent guy look elsewhere. Look at it this way - we are successful western men and we admire and are attracted to the Russian women. Russian women seem to like our personalities and mannerisms. We're happy finding them, they are happy finding us. And I don't care waht a loud obnoxious, opinionated faminazi from Sweden thinks about it. Go annoy the Swedish men in your community for a while (or have you already warn them out with your constant bickering?) Bet you wish that you could find a place where they were interested in you. tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/11/2004 5:36:53 PM   My woman does menial work, she thinks it's taking care of her man, and she does it with unadultered pleasure even though she is highly educated. This does not stop me putting her on a pedestal, I worship the ground she walks on. Probably because of her attitude, the fact that she cooks, washes irons for me, with a smile on her face, just makes me respect her more. I have had English women iron me a shirt, then they threw it at me with a scowl on thier face. I don't ever remember doing something for them with such distaste. It's funny, but when a woman cooks or irons for you and does it with pleasure, it sure makes you want to do things for her. She is not my slave because she takes good care of me, no more than I am her servant when I open doors, or pull out chairs or carry all the shopping for her. This pleasurable trade off has been lost in western society Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/11/2004 5:41:23 PM   You know personally I don't want to be put on a pedestal, I want to be loved, and I want to give my love...just to be happy with my beloved and do everything for our relationship to go on and on:) For us to be happy...and being on a pedestal, to my mind kills something in a woman...but being loved and love gives much more!!! Trad you said really good words!!!! I appreciate them very much!! And of course you know that I wish both of you love and happiness!!:) jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/11/2004 5:44:45 PM   I've got admit I like what you said too trad. But you'll pardon me if I don't compliment you as sweetly as Ptichka does. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/11/2004 8:32:28 PM   Damn women clean toilets?????Not in my house. There's nothing wrong with putting a woman on a pedestel if she truly deserves it. I myself will not have a problem with that. Because this time around I will not settle for less than her being my sunrise and sunset. As I have told my little lady, I don't want a housewife or a slave, I want a partner in life. If she's willing to be that, well I build the damn pedestel. What's a matter Fjaeril, no one in your life has ever felt about you that way. You sound like someone very bitter, who would destroy another womans opportunity to be treated in such a way. It's a damn shame, it could happen to you but you would definately have to check that sorry assed attitude at the door. I am not worried if I live alone or with someone. I would prefer to have someone, but she is going to be very special, just because of her heart, not how many rooms she can clean in a day. Someone who can look me in the eye and tell me I'm screwed up. Someone who isn't afraid of her femininity and who wants a relationship of sharing and not an obnoxious competition. Someone who knows what the distinct differences in the genders are. Someone who doesn't mind appreciation in all forms, from simple to complex. Forget about the pedestal and the past, let's just remember what a true lady is. Someone who is intelligent, articulate and beautiful and doesn't try to prove the male gender is out to keep her down because she has ovaries. Most of the feminists who walk around with the "burn the bra" attitude couldn't fill a real womans in the first place. Later Mike tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2004 9:51:10 AM   Thank you for your kind words Ptichka, and I'll excuse the fact that you didn't say it quite as sweetly Jet:-))))) well, I leave in 36 hours, to meet my destiny and bring her home. tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2004 9:51:50 AM   I have even purchased a brand new pedestal:-))))) shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2004 11:22:29 AM   Ptichka, I think that we understand your point...unconditional love lends itself to your thoughts.I believe the key is that the pedestal does not have a cage around it! :) I think that we all want to be loved and part of that is to be there for one another and yes sometimes to be put up and let all know that we are special and sometimes we lower ourselves to show it to our mate. Again it is in the freedom that we give that we truly find such rewards. It is this give and take that makes a true relationship what it is. I am one that says it is not dead in the west but yes it is much harder to find. It is our own fault and up to us to live by example as tradman is living the true dream! Thanks tradman for sharing. tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2004 12:32:09 PM   my pleasure Shaggy...Just praying everything goes ok with the visa, leaving for Moldova in 36 hours wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2004 12:47:19 PM   Hey Trad glad things are less of a strain or you are doing better with it, be safe and have a great trip. Stop by and give Liuba a big kiss for me in Chisinau, she would like that. I hope for a positive report on your return! tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2004 12:58:47 PM   Calmness has returned at last Wess:-)) will be happy to me your girl for a coffee if you want me to check her out Wess, and thats a sincere offer jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2004 1:13:04 PM   Good luck Trad. Though I'm sure at this point luck has little to do with it. A lot of us go with you in spirit and hope great things happen for you. tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2004 1:19:08 PM   Thanks to everyone for their warm wishes. You are right, I have done all the preperation that I can, I will stand or fall by my own endeavours wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2004 1:19:18 PM   I appreciate your offer but you need to tend to your affairs and complete your mission, destiny awaits. tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2004 1:58:11 AM   It does indeed Wess, maybe once I have been through the process, I can offer advice to you if you want to marry your Moldovan ladt, British and American process not too disimilar I would think wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2004 11:43:57 AM   Well you will be off soon enuff ol'chap, so take care and hear ya when you get back! Best wishes. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2004 11:55:02 AM   There is only one reason why any western man would ever consider putting a western woman like Fjaeril on a pedestal..... And that, of course, is to look up under her skirt to see what color panties she wears to cover her frozen privates. On the serious side of the issue, Trad summarized correctly. That's the way it works when two people commit to take care of each other. Lonely male castrating bitchies don't get it. Never will.. toad Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2004 5:05:29 PM   In all this thread some familiar posters are missing. You really want me to name them? Some srews are loose here, dangerously loose. Apparently cyber-lipstick works ;-)) gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2004 2:23:56 AM   Thunder: have you ever considered that a cyber sex change negates the need to find a woman???? Just a thought!!!.......:)) Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > In the good old days men wanted to put women up on a pedestal
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