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Frank Vans

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	Send: 10/18/2004 6:07:35 AM

I returned a few days ago from my trip to Perm to meet the woman I had been corresponding with. She turned out to be much better than I ever envisioned. She was easy to get along with, bright, beautiful, fit, and a happy woman. At first, it was clear to me that she had a good life in Russia with a well paying professional job, a close family, friends, and real estate investments. Not everyone really wants to come to the US. She didn’t have a man however since her divorce 5 years ago, that is until I came along. After a slow start she warmed up to me, and our relationship took off. We fell in love as much as anyone can during two weeks and she agreed to leave it all behind and come to me in America. I consider her loss of her life in Russia as a gift to me that I cannot really payback. I know there will be those men out there who will write negative comments because that is the way they are. Bu,t I am happy with this and I wish to thank Fiance.com for bringing her to me. By the way, I was also surprised she paid for half of my entertainment expenses and purchased us a weekend together at a resort. A tip for those of you going to Russia, learn as much of Russian as you can, including their alphabet. It is too much work for the woman to constantly translate everything. Anyone have an idea on the processing time for the K-1 out of St. Albans, Vermont and the Moscow US Embassy?

Neonred

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	Send: 10/18/2004 6:23:13 AM

Frank I returned from Russia two weeks ago and while I was in Moscow I stopped at the US embassy and asked all the questions about visa processing. After all paperwork is submitted, and there is a fair amount including some pages your lady must fill out and sign, it takes about 6 months give or take. If you decide to get married over there then add 2 months (more back log for processing those visas!) Check out the US government web sites at homeland security as they told me all information is listed there. After all papers are processed here in the US then it is sent to the embassy and they give your girl an appointment for her interview. Good Luck!

crashnsplash

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	Send: 10/18/2004 9:17:54 AM

Frank- Great news for you and I wish you both the best of luck. I have one word for anyone that wants to write anything negative to you... "jealous". Im sure there will be the usual professors of life that think they know everything... just ignore it all. I agree with you that many women have no desire to do all this just because they want to leave. It is a MYTH that women want to get out of Russia unless you find a freeloader or a woman that is not genuine. Thats my opinion after my trips to Russia. But anyway, the reason I posted to your thread is that I am in the K1 process right now. Our petition was approved about 2 weeks ago =))) We started everything at the end of July and we expect she will be interviewed by the Moscow embassy the end of December or early January. My lawyer is the best and he and his staff are on top of everything, I recomend him very highly. All in all I think our process will be about 5 or 6 months from start to finish. Anyway I will be back there in about 3 weeks. Kind of interesting for me because I am going to freeze my ass off. I haven't been in such cold weather in 11 years. But being away from eachother is the most difficult thing we have both ever experienced. The hard part will be having to leave her behind one last time. You guys out there still looking have no clue how hard it is to seperate, unless of course you have no heart. OK i'll stop rambling now, lol.

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	Send: 10/18/2004 9:50:36 AM

Outstanding Frank, I whole heartily agree with you on what a lot of these ladies give up to marry a foreigner, especially if they are a little older. I still have trouble with what Tanya is giving up to be with me. Best of luck too you both. It seems like there are a lot of success stories now. Crash, if you don’t mind my asking, who is your lawyer? I’m laying the groundwork to start the process now. Bill

Frank Vans

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	Send: 10/18/2004 9:09:02 PM

Thanks for all the good words. I'm told the Vermont INS office can process aproval applications in about 2 months (or less). I guess living on the East coast does have some benefits, even if the weather isn't one of them. After completing all the formsmand then discovering many of them changed as of Sep. 1st, I am going to get an lawyer involved just to make sure I get it right the first time. We are going to plan a get together in Turkey near Christmas. Anyone ever been there? Air travel is just over $700 from Boston for Christmas week. Got to keep the fire going during the long haul of the visa procesing time. Thanks again.

scottlf

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	Send: 10/18/2004 10:44:49 PM

I'm just glad we FINALLY have threads talking about going to the FSU to find a potential wife, what to expect while you are there, and what to expect AFTER you ask her the magic question. It's been a long time since worthy subjects have graced this forum.

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	Send: 10/19/2004 1:27:01 AM

Scott, I couldn't agree more, lol.... Frank 7 Crash; CONGRATS!!! toad

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	Send: 10/19/2004 3:48:37 AM

Frank, my best wishes... A visit to Istanbul over Christmas time can be worth it. If you are not really unlucky to get cought from one of those heavy snow falls which block the whole giant city. If you decide to stay in Istanbul, don't ever book a hotel in areas Topkapi, Aksaray or Laleli. I'd suggest districts of Sultanahmet and Taksim. If you afford a 5star hotel, avoid The Marmara Hotel, rest are very good. If you see that bad weather is coming, you can easily upgrade your trip for a stay in Antalya, end enjoy sun shine at the mediterranian sea. Meanwhile, especially in Antalya, she will better get along with her russian then you with your english))) Zfr

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	Send: 10/19/2004 4:26:56 AM

Frank- congradulations. I agrree with everything said here. Yes there are some scammers but why would this women leave with all she has. I brought one over here, total desarster story but, she had nothing, no family and nothing to loss. All up a bad decission on my part but I have met others who have a lot to give up and sometimes I wonder why they ever would but I do not think that they have something to gain other than to forfile there desires of love and family. Sounds like you found a good one. Again, congradulations

crashnsplash

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	Send: 10/22/2004 9:20:02 PM

Bill, I just seen your post, been very busy lately so I havent been around. I'll send you an email with the info. Thanks Toad.

gladiatorUK

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	Send: 10/23/2004 3:37:03 PM

Late as ever, but catching up on forum news before I go back to Ukraine for a few weeks,but my congrats also Frank,and to you too crash.....nice to hear from you both again.

PaulM

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	Send: 10/23/2004 8:34:57 PM

Frank Congratulations, it seems you went on a trip to visit only one woman, its really great to see that pay off for you both! On some forums too much emphasis is put on using the visit as a shopping trip to find the right woman, but if you did your homework before and the chemistry was there, way to go!

Frank Vans

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	Send: 10/24/2004 7:55:46 PM

Thanks Paul. Yes, I did my homework first. I'm also older than I would guess many of you are, so I may have greater wisdom to draw from. I am also a psychotherapist by profession, so I have some quick assessment skills to draw from. I decided to stay away from St. Petersburg and Moscow. I didn't want a "westernized" woman. The most important thing I did was to go with my intuition and turn off my rationalizations. The bottom line, is when you know the right one, you know it. I am very pleased and I feel very lucky. I did the right thing on focusing on one woman and not use the shopping around approach. If I met more than one woman, I am convinced I would have just been confused and the woman would have not taken me very seriously. By focusing on one woman, she knew I was arriving getting to know just her. In fact Elena would had not seen me at all if she thought there was competition. High quality women with self-respect won’t put up with that. The time away from each other now is hard for us both, but I knew this when I started. We are going to see each other in Spain this January. I figure by spring she will get her visa approval to travel to New England where I live. We talk every few days and Email each other daily. It still isn't enough contact.

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	Send: 10/25/2004 12:03:52 AM

Frank Your approach is kind of what I have in mind. A combination of things. I really like the idea of it culminating in a nice vacation in Spain. I would prefer Rome but same difference. The principle is the same. Steve

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