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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Love Tour experiences wanted Author Post Kotyvalix Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/28/2004 12:13:05 PM   Hello Everybody, Anyone ever been to a love tour organized either by this agency or another one. I have been to south Ukraine twice this year, after correspondence thru Anastasia web. The ladies told me shocking things about what's happening on those socials in reality, and I would like to know whether the ladies attending to those socials really want to find their soul mate or for the most of them it's just another way to get somebody buy them a new dress or something. Thanks in advance for the replies. Zsolt izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/28/2004 1:55:05 PM   That goes pretty much against everything I have ever heard. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/28/2004 1:58:30 PM   There is a string I started called AFA. Check this out before making any decisions one way or the other. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/28/2004 4:38:18 PM   Nonono Izi, "I don't have the rest of my life to weed through a gazillion strings to only find there is nothing there pertaining to what I want to know so please drop this will you. It doesn't work. If I need to know something I will ask it" He's doing same - just answer him please? You see how easy it is to refer to the 'past'? You were there, he wasn't - same like the stuff I referred to, and trust me most if not all you've asked has been answered here already. On top of it you'd be surprised how easy I'll find it, but you won't - because you use the SE which - you're right - does not work for this purpose. Just digging does.. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/28/2004 7:37:00 PM   yesyesyes TD Ah the AFA string is right on the opening forum, page. Not at page 40 something. Personally don't have time or inclination to dig. Check please, next case. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/28/2004 7:38:07 PM   Plus it is easy to type in AFA it comes righ to the top. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/31/2004 5:39:53 AM   Kotyvalix: Some of the ladies on the tour are very sincerely looking for their soulmate. Some of the ladies are looking for a little income and company for the night. Its a fact. Few are out there just to get you to buy them a dress however - but if you have a BAD experience and you end up just buying a dress for a lady in Ukraine - it might set you back all of $50. What you really have to worry about is losing your heart to one. If she is a scammer you stand to lose a lot more than that!! The reward potential for finding your one-and-only make all the risk worthwhile. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/31/2004 10:37:30 AM   The more I hear about these tours and socials the more I like the idea. Looks like I am going to either Kiev or Odessa next year to meet someone. If that doesn't work out I will plunge and try a social or two. It looks like a very good way to speed things up. I am sure there is a mixture of women in attendance there always are at any function. Might be tricky trying to sort them out though. I would think that the hookers are probably in the minority though. wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/31/2004 11:39:38 AM   what about women with agends? jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/31/2004 1:43:58 PM   Iri: Unfortuantely you are pretty much going to have to decide to go on Tour and attend the Socials - or to go to Odessa or Kyev and meet someone individually. From what I've seen it is quite difficult to do both on the same trip. If you tell a woman with whom you have been coresponding that you would like to see her while you attend the Socials - she will (of course) be insulted. She WILL know what the Socials are all about. And of course, if you have her actually MEET you at a Social - it is likely to be uncomfortable for both of you. (Believe it or not I know of several guys who have tried this.) Since the Socials are, of course, at the beginning of the week - you can't really meet the lady with whom you have been writing either and decide whether or not to attend the Socials later (depending on whther or not you both hit it off). And if you have paid $900 to attend the Socials and then miss them - well, you really don't want that. Eastern European women dress differently than western. They tend to dress very stylishly and trendy. The style might incorrectly be sometimes classified as "trampy" by western standards. Spiked heels, short tight skirts, lots of cleavage. (No conservative muted evening gowns to speak of.) It does not mean, of course, that they are tramps. Some of the women who dress like that are actually quite conservative. You can't really use western standards of dress to determine who is legitimate and who isn't. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/31/2004 2:23:54 PM   "Since the Socials are, of course, at the beginning of the week - you can't really meet the lady with whom you have been writing either and decide whether or not to attend the Socials later (depending on whther or not you both hit it off)" You can if you go for 2 weeks especially if you meet via email as in my case. I see this as 2 different methods of meeting I certainly wouldn't invite a woman to a social it is a bit insulting. "I want to meet you but just in case you are a dog I'd like backup, Is that ok with you dear". Obviously that ain't gonna fly, it really is insulting. Dress style sounds great though. Women who actually revel in being female and showing off what they got. Nice. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2004 12:55:56 AM   Not only do they revel in being female - but they EXPECT you to be a male. They WILL pause at a door expecting you to open it for them. They WILL walk next to you EXPECTING you to take their as you stroll down the street. I LOVE that part of being with a Russian woman - though I can't really explain why. These are behaviors western men have forgotten or never really learned in the first place. You best learn it or revive the long forgotten memory - because they are LADIES first and foremeost. As I have mentioned recently - one negative thing is the perception Russian women have of how a MAN is supposed to behave. It goes with the beliefs and attitudes expressed above. Typically a Russian MAN is in control of the situation - he comunicates witht the waitress and he tells the taxi driver where to go. Not speaking Russian - most of us cannot do that and are therefore at a disadvantage. Of course it can be overcome with an understanding Russian woman - but it gets to be grinding after a while. The typical Romane Tour actually goes for 12 days - close to two weeks. If you intend to go and meet your lady in conjunction with one - would you have her meet you there AFTER the Socials (in which case it might be hard to explain why you were in Odessa for instance, for a twelve days without contacting her). Or would you arrive early and have her meet your first (in which case it might be hard to ask her to leave if you aren't absolutely sure of her - and still want to attend the Socials). (Besides you generally pay the $900 for the Socials previously. ) Just wondering how you would work this out? Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2004 10:22:24 AM   Jet, My my, mind your spelling! "EXPECTING you to take their as" of course should be: "EXPECTING you to take their ass" Gosh Jet, such mistakes nobody expects from you, really now ;-) jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2004 11:55:01 AM   Thunder - Er - that was supposed to be "EXPECTING to take their "arm" as you stroll down the street. They won't necessarilly be axpecting you to take the other thing that you mentioned, and certainly not while strolling down the street. Well eventually maybe they will, depending but you'll have to get to know them a little better anyway - before they expect that. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2004 12:03:23 PM   And surprisingly - I bet few of you have considered taking a "Romane Tour" as I emntion above. You probably tend to like iceberg lettuce, or some other sort of leaf lettuce. But keep your options and your opinions open. But while considering taking this salad tour - might I suggest taking a "Romance Tour" instead. You are likely to meet more Russian women that way. To: QC - That b*stard jetmba - it seems he's even cued up an attack on ME now!!! Who do I report him to? wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2004 12:39:02 PM   as you emntioned above iceberg lettuce, the lady goes to the market to get a head of lettuce and can't find one, when the manager came out with some new tomatoes to shelf he saw his whole display of vegetables rummaged over so he says to the old lady mam may i help you and she says sure I need a head of lettuce to which he replies sorry mam' we have no lettuce we have run out. He straightens up the mess and goes back to the cooler for some carrots and comes back out and everything is ravaged and over turned again and the same lady says son are you sure the is no lettuce to which he replies yes mam that is what I have been trying to tell you we are out of lettuce, well I am sorry she replies I was hoping I might get lucky and find some, nope all out he replied. So he spends another half hour fixing the area back up and after he gets it all together he goes back to the cooler to get some fresh corn on the cob. You should see how pissed off this guy is when he returns and that old lady has turned the produce department upside down. He walks up to the lady and sternly says mam can you spell cat as in catatonic and she says why yes c a t, great he says and then can you spell dog as in dogmatic and she says sure d o g so then he says mam can you spell F**K as in lettuce and she says well there is no F**k in lettuce and says that's right and exactly what I have been telling you, there is no F**king lettuce lady, get lost! jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2004 2:14:55 PM   Whine.... These guys are picking on my spelling....(even I am picking on my spelling!!) Whine...whine....you guys.... stop abusing me guys.... izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2004 6:26:02 PM   Here is how I would work it out Jet. Initial desire would be to go and spend 10 days or whatever with potential beloved. If it turns sour, I mean really sour, I mean she meets you at the airport and you are expecting Nicole Kidman and Tommy Lee Jones turns up then you say sorry and split on your own. Have to play it by ear a little bit but it wouldn't be that hard to amuse yourself enough people here have managed it. Then the socials start at the beginning of the second week. I made enquiries with AFA and you can basically pay at the door. It is bloody expensive $400, but should be enough to get the thing kickstarted. Hopefully though you do a Tradman and everything is sweet and none of this subterfuge is necessary. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/1/2004 6:30:11 PM   I was in no way shape or form thinking of taking a tour AND dating someone I have been ritung to or even writing to. jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/4/2004 7:56:34 PM   izzi european connections only charged me 200 dollars at the door for a five hour no alchohol social in kyiv jmoluv Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Love Tour experiences wanted
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