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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > MIOPIC NEWS REPORTING Author Post GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/5/2004 2:30:35 PM   got an e-mail with a copy of the article below written by C.J. Chivers from the New York times. So much for unbiased news reporting. I think Chivers is too cozy now after having built a solid reputation as a war correspondent and would rather focus on the negative side of the east-west dating scene instead of showing ANY examples of succesful relationships between western men and eastern women. And heaven and hell forbide him to dig a little deeper and start investigating the reasons why 1000s of western men no longer put any effort to seek and develop serious relationships with western feminazi canines of the female gender. Chivers is not afraid to rub elbows with the Iraq and Afghan war scenes, but he seems scare shitless of presenting both sides of the story about east-west dating....makes me wonder, lol. I think his editor is a western feminazi, lol. here it is: "This is an interesting article from New York Times. Please send your comments and questions to maxim@yoshkar-ola.com . November 3, 2004 By C. J. CHIVERS MOSCOW, Nov. 2 - As she sends e-mail with her photograph to men around the world, Nadezhda Medvedeva calls to the lonely in just the right voice. If circumstances were different she might make a fine wife. She is young, brown-eyed and curvy, a pediatric dentist who quotes 19th-century poetry and cooks delicious meals. She lives near the Caspian Sea in southern Russia but is eager to travel. Her Russian is fluent; her English, not bad. Ms. Medvedeva is also cautious, even demure. It is only after she grows comfortable with a suitor that she will reveal the depth of her longing. Then nothing can hold her back. "Hi, my Lion!" she wrote to Steven Rammer of Denver, Pa., as they planned a passionate rendezvous at his home. "Hi, my soul!" That rendezvous never happened. Nor did another she arranged for two days later with George Palin, who waited in vain in Montana. No matter how long the trail of the jilted, Nadezhda ("call me Nadia") Medvedeva is neither a tease prone to second thoughts nor an overbooked online tramp. She is not even a person. She is bait. Ms. Medvedeva is one of scores, perhaps hundreds, of fictional characters in a resurgent Internet hustle that has become a Russian boom industry this year. Using fake names, forged visas and snapshots of young Russian women, a new crop of on-line swindlers is luring Western victims into highly successful confidence games. Each is an escalating flirtation between an unsuspecting man and a Russian grifter masquerading as a young woman. It typically ends when the victim wires money to Russia to pay for visas and airfare for a consummation of the affair. Then the beloved disappears. The con first surfaced in 2001 but then subsided, Russian authorities say. It has recently returned with vigor and new sophistication. The targets are men in the United States, Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand who have posted personal advertisements on the Internet. The crime has become so widespread that the United States Embassy here is receiving between 5 and 10 inquiries from American citizens about it every day, an American diplomat said. "Some of these guys were literally left waiting at the airport with roses," she said. Most victims lose from $300 to a few thousand dollars, although one man was defrauded of $11,000, the diplomat said. The number of men duped is at least in the hundreds, but it may be much larger. "We only know about the victims who are willing to talk about it," she said. Modern Russia is in many ways an incubator for such crimes. It has a highly literate population that suffers from low wages and soaring unemployment, conditions that can breed hustlers. It offers them an environment in which they can work, including uneven law enforcement and barriers to outsiders - a language many find impenetrable, strict visa rules and vast geographical spaces - that all but ensure that few fooled Americans could ever find the people who tricked them. Mr. Rammer and Mr. Palin both gave The New York Times the correspondence they had received from the person pretending to be Ms. Medvedeva. The string of e-mail messages provides an example of how the game works. In June the correspondent sent an e-mail message to Mr. Rammer, replying to a personal advertisement he had posted on match.com, an online dating service. It seemed a normal query, offering basic personal information - I'm 29, 5 feet 6 inches tall, a dentist - and then following the rituals of new acquaintance. Do you like your job? What is your favorite film? A long-distance conversation began. More e-mail followed, each message with an attached photograph. The character of Ms. Medvedeva was slowly revealed. She is educated but of limited means. She knows popular Western films and classical Russian music. She provides dental care to orphans. She had a boyfriend, but he beat her. Now she is alone. As the exchange intensified the grifter accepted pictures from Mr. Rammer, sent back compliments and answered questions he had posed. Two e-mail messages included pictures of Ms. Medvedeva in a bikini. On July 13 Ms. Medvedeva's character admitted it: she had fallen in love. "In my soul, I feel contentment and joy when I think of you," she wrote. Two days later the plot took its essential twist: her boss notified her that she had a vacation due. She wanted to visit her new man. The July 16 message began, in imperfect English, "I with trembling heart waited your wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/5/2004 5:20:45 PM   Perhaps that will slow down the rush of western men to Russia until I can get there to do some cherry picking toad. jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/5/2004 5:25:15 PM   toad , where is the rest of the letter? jmo wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/5/2004 5:32:45 PM   Two days later the plot took its essential twist: her boss notified her that she had a vacation due. She wanted to visit her new man. The July 16 message began, in imperfect English, "I with trembling heart waited your letter." Then came the rub. Can you help with travel costs? Anatoly Platonov, the spokesman for the K Department of Russia's Ministry of Internal Affairs, which investigates Internet crimes, said that the criminals who send these messages were almost always men and that they used the same scripts to correspond with hundreds, even thousands, of foreign men at once. The person posing as Ms. Medvedeva was simultaneously flirting with Mr. Palin, having found his personal advertisement on yahoo.com. He received virtually identical e-mail, the only changes being his name and short answers to questions he had posed in previous exchanges. ("I with trembling heart waited your letter" arrived on July 27.) To lead the men into the trap, the poser sent them e-mail about a nervous wait for an American visa, and then a copy of the visa after it was approved. The visa was a forgery, made from a scan of an authentic visa, retouched by computer to include a new face and personal data. A trace of its number found that the original had been reported lost or stolen in August of last year, the American diplomat said. The ruse worked. Both Mr. Rammer and Mr. Palin wired Ms. Medvedeva money to help with costs. Mr. Rammer sent $300; Mr. Palin $720. The identity of the person who duped them remains unknown, although whoever it was has been active: Ms. Medvedeva is listed as a phony bride-to-be on Internet blacklists, which are regularly updated by bilked men. Her picture has also been used under the name Tatyana Kuzminyh and Anna Kruglova. Mr. Platonov said Ms. Medvedeva's ever changing character fit a type. The fictional women are like Legos, assembled by joining random photographs, vignettes and seductive scripts. The men who create them often have female accomplices who provide their passports for scanning or pick up money at Western Union counters or banks. The first ring the authorities broke up, in 2002, consisted of two young men and a woman who sent e-mail from the city of Yoshkar-Ola, in the Ural Mountains. "We arrested the fat girl and she gave evidence," Mr. Platonov said, referring to the woman in the group. "It turned out that all this effort was organized by a 21-year-old boy." In the most recent case, prosecuted this year, a husband-and-wife team in Chelyabinsk bilked foreign men out of several hundred thousand dollars, Mr. Platonov said. The wife posed as the bait. The man was found guilty of fraud, but his case is on appeal, a spokesman at the local Internal Affairs office said. The American diplomat says the swindle appears to have been picked up by copycats who have grown more sophisticated of late. The scripts have become more patient and include story lines that show a character's honesty or kindness. (Ms. Medvedeva described treating an orphan's toothache during a blackout - by flashlight.) The visa forgeries have also become more convincing. Moreover, some swindlers have created Web sites that purport to represent travel agencies and back them up with "employees" who take calls from foreign men asking about their date's airfare and reservations. Others have turned to new classes of victims. Three weeks ago, the diplomat said, the first gay victims began to complain. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/5/2004 5:41:08 PM   Jmo, that's typical Toad. He starts something and then cowards out - he's a bastid frog you see, he left to clamp on something female is my guess :)) olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/5/2004 8:06:54 PM   readers of his forum know all this scam schemas and discussed it well. I think there are more money is being stolen from people by scam telemarketers in USA:) I know I am repeating here but this is for all men who are new to this forum: never send money, always reports to the site where that girl placed her profile if she asked for money, read this forum about NOT SENDING money:) hoenissen Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/8/2004 12:44:55 AM   A judge berated a con-man: "...and you cheated all those nice people who trusted you..." "The others are much harder to cheat!" GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/8/2004 10:41:01 AM   Wess, Thank you for posting the missing portion of the letter. Sorry, Jmo...I left for a couple of days after I posted the thread. Don't know what happened. Maybe there is a limit to how long our posts can be. TD, yes, I did, lol... jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 1:06:53 AM   a continuing saga of the toadster chronicles. waiting on a condensed and paraphrased edition! jmoluv GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 1:09:52 AM   solly, jmo.... it'll never happen, lol... I don't screw and tell toad Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 12:19:31 PM   Toad, OK, hear ya, but what about a "Hammer & Shout" then hmm? More likely I think - notch notch w.... geriatrix Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 12:37:54 PM   -something about selecting the right tool for the job at hand? Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 3:25:04 PM   You mean a gun? Maybe a Norton-resistant firewall-penetrating virus.... shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 3:29:32 PM   I think geri was trying to make a joke....probably the right hand for the job! GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 3:54:59 PM   LOL, shaggy I'll be the first one to admit that I have, on occasions, taken my favorite hand on a romantic weekend getaway to romantic places like Cambria and Santa Barbara....but not this time, lol. toad geriatrix Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/11/2004 10:53:01 AM   Bad news is always good news to the reporter. That is the nature of the beast (news reporting). Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > MIOPIC NEWS REPORTING
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