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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Value of information! Author Post shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 6:00:26 PM   Just wanted to share some of the response I got from one of the women visiting the forum.... shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 6:06:13 PM   thank you for the happiness to hear real sincere advise. I understood fully all wrote and all you meant between the lines. I`m glad to say that I`m agree with your opinion about many of men visiting the forum. Time-by-time I read and re-read some of topics, so I can realize Who is Who. .... This is an example of how they feel about the crap in our forum I got a thank you note for my sincere reply to her questions. Guys even if we do or do not want it they are reading what we write and many find it very troubling. I for one am very serious. I also am one for fun but I have to say again that we could have both and not look like asses doing it. shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 6:16:36 PM   I understand that some out there feel that those of us who have not yet made the trip have no valuable input but they are wrong. I have done my homework and set my plans to travel in the early spring. I have made lodging arrangements and plan to visit several cities on my own. I do not know the language but am learning and I have several ladies that adore that I am sincere and honest with them. They know about each other and that I will visit more than one in some towns. I have found that the most important thing is to be strait forward and honest with them. It would be the one thing I have found that most want more than anything. Many would be amazed at how they open up to you when you are sincere and a gentleman. I am not a playboy by any stretch of the imagination but I realize that in person things are different, as do they. Almost every one of them has mentioned to me that the attitudes in this forum represent more of what they are finding unpleasant in their own men. Dare to be different and find that there is nothing wrong with being sincere and even going against everything our manly ignorance has taught us. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 6:25:27 PM   Shaggy - as I understand it there are thousands of women listed with fiance.com. No doubt there are thousands of men as well. Some may never read the forum. Others may search from time to time. Fewer still write. Russian women have an advantage over most westen men in that they are often bilingual. They also know that there are princes and frogs out here looking for them (and one (and only one) toad ;) ). I'm sure this forum discourages some. I'm sure that watching western television and seeing that we all have flaws discourages some. But if I need (or want) information - or just want some meaningful banter from my fellow guys - I certainly am not going to censor myself for fear that some single woman out of thousands might read my writing and decide that I or others are BAD. Frankly that consideration ranks quite low for me. Its doibtful that I will ever get around to dating all or even most ofthe thousands of women out there ("So many women so little time.") that if my legitimate question or opinion turns one off - I will get by without her. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 6:30:04 PM   Your second point is a better one. being honest and strightforward is the way to go. and if they know that you are coming to see more than one - you should have a great time. My only advice, when meeting these girls is to expect the unexpected. I have found that the best laid plans go amazingly wrong at times in the FSU. If you experience the same - remember what I said and tell us about it. If not - good for you. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 6:34:51 PM   It will be a cold day in hell when you read a politically correct post from me simply because a woman may read it and not like it...HA! Read me, like me, laugh with me, hate me, reject me or ignore me, woman...but don't for one milisecond expect to change me, or mold me to conform to your needs. Men who go along with that crap are better off building relationships with western feminazi women. toad shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 8:18:59 PM   Toad I hope I did not offend i tried to state that you were just an example in the thread I understand you will never be warm or fluffy. But again you jump to conclusions that just dont add up. You assume that because I care enough to try to make things better I am a lover of feminazis. I have served 17 years in those chains I doubt there is any who could compare to the lesbian drummer from the neitherhells that I called my wife. If it were not for the fact I drove her physically crazy I would still be suffering today because I did love her. But hey I was lucky enough to get a second chance and you bet your ass I do not intend to blow it. shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 8:39:08 PM   Jet I understand you as well. I think you guys still think I am after you personally and that is not so. I am however stating my thoughts on these matters as I feel it is important for some to see that they are not the only ones going through this hazing by those who feel this is the only way to communicate. I am just as guilty as anyone here about political correctness. I tell foul jokes and yes now and then grab my nut sack in public but I don't have to do it to be a man or feel that if someone else doesn't that they are any less a man or less deserving of at least a fair chance. The only thing I find offensive is the personal attacks. I understand for some this is part of the macho world but for the educated it is nothing more than playground bull crap. I have taken advise from both of you two and left other things you have said for what it is worth. I do appreciate your view and feel yes it has its place here. I however as a person think it would be so much better if you guys could let some of the little stuff slide now and then. There is nothing wrong with either of you. Toad and I had our go round and we have made nice. It was an incredibly off day that I snapped and I believe I apologized to everyone involved. Does it make me a sissy boy or any less a man that I can tell you my feelings with out driving your face in the dirt…I think not. I am just sticking my head out where others have had it chopped off. Not because I enjoy it but because I feel it is necessary to encourage others to continue to share their stories and experiences. Yes even if they have no clue. At least you can identify and move on. I get just as tired of you guys of the people hijacking threads and talking crap just to get a rise out you. The best way to stop it is to control the outbreak and deny them the pleasure. Of course this is only my opinion but I think it is for the good of all that I voice it as the forum suggest it is a place to do just that. I wish you guys the best, I have no ill will toward any man….well except liberal pinko fags but that is not a topic for this forum. Please do understand I have no beef with anyone. Thanks for that advise about things gone wrong as I think that is what has lead me to make the choices I have made. I am not the type to go whoring at the socials but would prefer to have friends that have some knowledge of who and what I am. I am just that way…nothing wrong or right about it but I just feel it is best for me. shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 10:18:56 PM   Sorry should be I get just as tired "as" you guys of the people hijacking.... wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 10:23:02 PM   shaggy, dude, some of the guys here will never get it because it is hard to stay in the here and now and and communicate with I statements people like to speak for the masses and not take responsibity for their own thoughts, feelings and actions. I often pull that swicth to illuminate that tendency to generalize, it is not stupidity but ignorance. How can people with such great experience be so closed minded and unreasonable to view new and different information, shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 10:29:48 PM   I know wess but I think that of course as we are forced to solve the worlds problems you got to start somewhere...lol wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/9/2004 10:54:55 PM   I just wrote this paragraph for a paper in one of my classes about Intra personal relations the role of the helper and the helpee. I thought I could change the world, make some grand contribution. Maybe make a minor correction that paid great dividends for the human endeavor, I thought I could be someone if I made the right sacrifice, then I awoke in class to the realization that it is me that I want to change, ultimately the world is well with or with out me. My responsibility is to myself, it is me that I want to improve and make better. in the end I can feel ok with you when I am ok with me. shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/10/2004 12:50:09 AM   Yes wess you are right. But I think my actions do make me a better person. I also believe that my non confrontational aproach is what makes me a better person. One point for anger management. Also I must say that you must be careful as if your aim is always for yourself you are very likely to end up in the same sorry way...I am not out the change the world but to change one persons life for the better will improve my life many times over. I realize that it will probably not be one of these guys as I said they are who they are and I do not want to change them but make them more aware of others. wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/10/2004 1:08:05 AM   I did not sat I gave up trying to make a contribution but to be of a maximum value to others I must be the best that I can be. I think you missed my point entirely! shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/10/2004 1:24:46 AM   No wess I am just over stating the obvious tonight. I understand and apreciate your thoughts. It is very true in many things. I think it is a saying that to love someone else you must first love yourself. I would agree with it but I am not looking to date myself anymore as I just can't trust I won't run away with the first pretty girl I see. Sorry I am in rare form and trying to beat the herd to the punch. I know by morning there will be a half a dozen smart ass remarks about what you and I have said. It is really for their benefit. Not to question your thoughts...lol. Frank Vans Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/10/2004 7:42:16 AM   Shaggy, It is good to read a post by someone that respect both women and himself. There are only a few rude and angry men who post constant attacks on others and resist "seeing" themselves as others do. Russian women, from my experience in Russia want to be respected and treated with kindness. When inmature men post non-compassionate words, it reflects on all of us, and when men post good words such as yourself, it gives hope that not all men are animals. Thank you for your good words! gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/10/2004 1:57:13 PM   Frank: "When inmature men post non-compassionate words, it reflects on all of us" NO IT DOESN'T.....give some of these ladies credit for a little intelligence please!!,they are as aware as anyone that no two people are alike. Of course like any normal human being they will respond much better to kindness and understanding than acid remarks,but never forget that EVERY person has more to them than the outer shell,and that is quite often the most interesting part in finding out what lies beneath. At least when a post is angry it reflects the feelings at the time.....which I for one find refreshingly honest,and I can understand the tongue in cheek replies too.....it's not too hard....try it. Frank Vans Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/10/2004 6:58:18 PM   You do indeed sound like an very angry man as have many of your post. Very sad. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/10/2004 7:12:11 PM   Not angry at all Frank.......just very exasperated when people like you do not know what you are talking about. As for most of my posts being sad.......that just shows the superficial way you read the posts on this forum.By all means make a comment,that is what the forum is for,but you really should check the contents of your own postings before criticising others. Frank Vans Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/10/2004 8:21:54 PM   As I said. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Value of information!
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