Ok, jet, lets see, A Women<<< a Russian one at that, now, talk about her............................................................ok. Now, how much about that Russian woman have we not discused yet, hmm.............................o.k. now that we discuse everything from her brain to her toe nails what is the left? hmm.
Lets talk about Russia, Russian Politics, and so on.
True, its not talking about a girl in particular , still, we are talking about that girls life surroundings and things that effect her and the way she might think and view things and therefore learning more about what is ticking inside there head. :-)
Dunno why you think no one here is serious. I sure as hell am. I'm not in the habit of throwing money away on just chatting. I ask questions as i need answers. You seem a bit restless. You have a question that needs answering? There is only so much to say on the topic of looking for Russian women. Not sure what you are expecting or looking for.
Maybe you hit it right on the head - maybe I am a bit restless.
I have noticed tthat people seem to matriculate here. They go through the golly, gee-whiz, period where they suck up all of the information possible on this new and promising idea. Can I really go there? Are the girls different? How much does it cost?
and then they either find their one and only - like trad (I hope) and wtrav and (I think glad) or they don't - but in either case the "gee-whiz" seems to wear off.
Maybe once youve been there a few times it becomes less tempting to write here about the fundamentals.
TimH (last time I spoke to him anyway) wasn't quite settled with one in particular - yet he is no longer present on this board - though he and othe other regulars, Turboz, wtrav, and other seem to pop in as if still checking in on us and keeping an eye.
I'll tell you the personality conflicts here have taken their toll.
My issue is when someone does try to discuss their ideals they are run off as a prankster or just plain blasted for being stupid. We have treated people very badly for example the woman who came for advise and was insulted by more than the regulars. Or if someone tries to share there thoughts they are laughed at as being queer, too touchy feely or flawed because they are serious and sincere. Many speak of them as if they were hired help and lucky to be in their service. I don't care how stacked the cards are in your favor those that are here to exploit the women's conditions and treat them like prostitutes are plainly vulger and completely not what we want here. It is apauling to me how some treat the women we are supposedly here to date and find our soul mate with. I think some post of late from members that have had some success that have come back support that thought that the he man woman haters club is at best misguided. There is to much ball swinging and not enough sincerity in our efforts to help each other in our quest. And no I do not want group hugs or holding hands but I would like it that if someone wants to come and share something they can do it without being railroaded...I think this thread is a shadow of the Value of information thread that I started weeks ago stating almost the same thing. Funny that here it is again. If we expect to have meaningful information that is on topic then we should learn that we will need to keep a certain level of respect even for those that would seem do not deserve it. Time will weed out those here just to cause crap and you would find that honest sincerity would drive them out quicker.
Shaggy: If you are refering to the treat ment that the woman (Designer) received I believe that that was an honest mistake. we had a number of "imposter" people signing on - that many at the time believed to be the same character the same troll.
He claimed to be Chinese person at one point, a Swedish feminist, and several others. There were silimarities in the email addresses - all were Yahoo email addresses but from different countries and all of th names were similar.
Since we get few women - and the problem that Designer was describing seemed made up (a woman who wants phones sex? didn't seem credible) that was why people took a harsh line toward her. Everyone beleived we were being played by the same troll AGAIN.
Unfortunately Shaggy as much as I share your sentiments, you are unlikely to be satisfied.
The moderators seem willing to accept non-FSU related posts because any activity is better than none.
When I first came to this Forum there was nothing like the degree of vitriol occurring now. I hold my hand up as having stirred the pot a little by complaining.. since I know how good it was when working well.. and I apologise to all those who have been offended by it.
Go back over the history of this Forum and you will see this problem crops up time and time again. Different faces, that's all.
People take ownership, shape it to their tastes.. hardly welcoming.. and the Forum goes down the toilet.
As Jet says, all those that are serious have left.
Set your watch and watch this thread get hijacked by hypocrites claiming to share the same ideals..
I think one answer is that it's difficult to keep up with the proliferation of nicknames, new posts and sometimes irrelevant contributions to old posts. Although plurality is good, it's just becomes too time consuming to read every detail, so one gets overwhelmed and then gets to choose what threads and what responses to read. I had stopped coming to this site for quite a while and then when I started coming back, I found there were so many nicknames and threads and that I was totally unfamiliar, so I limited my interestd to those that I was familiar with.
I fully agree with you from what I've been able to absorb the last several weeks, there is a lot of chatting about matters that are off the subject of Russian women. Before this site was renamed to fiance.com, the progression of new threads was extremely slow. There were several days lag between responses and new threads were rarely introduced. Then the old dating-ru.com site was renamed to fiance.com and somehow more people came to this site (something that has to do with the search engine I imagine). I think during dating-ru, the forum was focused, but too slow. Now during fiance.com, the forum has taken a different spin and it is more lively, but gets off to fields with the corn and the grazing cows sometimes.
I have not heard the news about your Moldovan friends, I would be interested to know what happened if you've got a moment. Did anyone also hear from Deanis?
I can echo many sentiments that wtrav writes about too.....I am as guilty as anyone about infrequent postings but as you correctly guessed my life has changed quite dramatically since I found my wife.
I do visit when I can, and try (not always successfully) to respond to any questions that may arise,BUT I do find that there does seem to be a proliferation of rather odd subjects......and since I value what spare time I have I usually try to stick to commenting on that I am familiar with or that I can help with.
And before anyone thinks I am having a dig at new (ish) members....I'M NOT,fresh faces and ideas are always welcome.It is very easy to lose direction here,and the appearance of the trolls doesn't help,but most of the members are streetwise enough to avoid them.
In closing though I still think this is the best forum I have seen.
I echo the sentiments of everyone here. I bailed on this forum for a while and even now am somewhat careful about what I choose to share. Simply because of the heckling. This is a delicate subject, it is about trying to find someone to spend the rest of ones life with. None of us are looking to set ourselves up for a divorce. Therefore whatever someone says should be treated with respect.
Some peoples acid tongues unnecessarily unleashed cause others to defend themselves and respond. It is only natural. Nobody has the right here to judge somebody elses thoughts. We have the macho manly man types and the softer gentler types. I sort of fall somwhere in the middle, depending if there is a 'r' in the month. Neither extreme should be allowed to dominate here and each should be treated with respect. Equally, each extreme should not attack the other.
I find Geriatrix interesting. He is ceaslessly told that he is stupid and guilty of pointless posts stating the obvious. Whoever makes those attacks on him remember that hundreds of people read these thoughts and not everyone agrees with you. I for one read what he says with interest. Another interesting thing about him is that he never responds with venom. He takes it in good part even though they are usually unwarranted attacks. He seems to turn the other cheek. I wish I was that forgiving.
Got to admit Geriatrix is someone I was not sure about and am still not sure about...but he does not respond negatively to ANYTHING and he has seemed lately to try and moderate, to guide discussion (channel it?) into new areas, especially when it seems to be going in a neagtive direction. He suggests new ideas.
I'd like to know his story - based on the name i would guess that he is elderly (only makes sense) but based on his temprement - perhaps a teacher? in the clergy? I am curious.
Hey Geriatrix: If you wouldn't mind... and with all due respect....if you are reading this thread... could you tell us a little about yourself and your background.