i am interested in how you come up with the analogy that latvian women are more westernized than moldavians? based on what? a couple of trips and correspondence with a few? i am just interested. it seems the only women who can write a decent reply to me are the women of riga, unless it is the agency writer doing one hell of a job. saying the women of latvia are more westernized does not hinder me from extending myself , they actually seem more normal to me than the ukraines and russians in their letter writing. i dont understand where you are coming from with that statement.
jmoluv, I have gotten the same feeling and I have had several of the women from latvia tell me strait out that they do not want or need our money or too leave the country. I later found out one was an escort and listed on other sites. Several have said that they do not believe the letters after many serious sincere letters they just say come visit and I will believe you. They tell me how much money it cost to be beautiful and one even told me that beauty came before family and I should look to older women if I do not have money to keep her beautiful (both of us in our 30's..lol). By far the women of latvia seem more like the higher maintenance type. To be fair I have met 2 or 3 very sincere types that seem oblivious to this and though they do say they have a higher standard of living they feel that love and family are more important than money or country...so as usual it is hard to judge but I must agree that there is a higher % there that have told me strait up that to be with them will be expensive and letters mean squat come and visit them now. The one that is an escort actually still writes me all the time trying to give me advice. She has suggested that I look in the Ukraine if I am serious for a bride..but warns it will cost me much more there? My findings say that maybe Riga is the more expensive trip but I can not say from experience.
I think like everywhere you just have to look case by case but statistically so far Riga has given me more women with fire and attitude...take it how you will they are very proud and very independant.
I will admit that I have narrowed to two individuals I really like and one is in Riga and one is in Moldova. Both in their mid 20's and both the sweetest girls I have ever had the pleasure to meet. I just hope things work out with one and not both :-)
do you know if fiance .com has only one agency in riga or more than one? like you i had the same experience. i locked horns with one who sent me canned letters, but the other two beauties who are being very nice to me with the best replies i have ever received, i suspect are all from the same agency and the administrator has said lets kill the guy with kindness. everything i discuss is well answered, i am shocked. i am a little suspicious. but it is a nice change from the usual. and yes one has hinted me already to visit her after 5 letters which i like to hear. is the economy better in latvia that they might demand if they move an equal or higher standard of living?
Thing are VERY different in Latvia as compared to Moldova. In fact, except for the fact that Russian is A common language to both countries they seem almost entirely dissimilar.
Latvia's GNP (per capita) was $3,708 in 2003. That seems meager (and it is) but most of the wealth is centralized in Riga, so in that area you will find the most affluence.
Moldova's GNP (per capita) was only $398 in 2003. Again you will find the incomes in the capital city to be a bit higher but that is REALLY a low GNP.
(By comparison the US GNP (per capita) during 2003 was $36,562).
But the biggest diffrence is HOPE. One Latvia woman I dated for a week worked as a receptionist/security monitor and earned about 5 Lats per day ($10). But she could see the country growing. Rather than to decry what she didn't have she talked about what she did have compared to past years. In a decade or so that country will be undiscernable from any other European country.
In Moldova the poverty may actually be more crippling then the above figures suggest. There is a vast underground economy but there is also an incredible gap between the rich and the poor.
are you saying or do you feel that the ladies there have more tendencies to think like an american women maybe because they have hope? or are you saying that the women in riga only, because of a better economy have more of a better self pride an outward attitude that we might think that it is a westernized attitude of their women because of. by the way jet, what did you think of that canned letter i sent you?
they have only refered to one that I know of. Early on I think I made a thread that I had recieved two letters from different girls with the same paragraph very warm and loving....I confronted them and they said they were friends but they of course both meant every word....fishy at best but one seems very warm still while the other is more cold. I have always got detailed answers but many loose their patience and want hard dates you are comming. One warned me that I should bring my money and not worry so much about a plan and having women to visit. I get the feeling that the escort business is alive and well there. I think you can tell the ones showing the most skin seem to be that type children or not!
If you want to send me the info on anyone you write I would let you know what I can as I have corresponded with many of the better qualified women from Riga it seems...lol Again the answers to my letters are detailed but the underlying message is always the same...when will you be here and bring money it will be fun....One that gives me such a hard time also told me when ask why she continues to write me if she does not believe my letters is she enjoys meeting people. I explained I was really looking for more than a cold meeting of many girls she said that of course in person she would be very serious but until then she enjoyed writing to many interesting people....ie get all I can from everyone kind of feeling....lol They do not want money but they know you need to be there with them and they are not really intersted in knowing you write more than one girl. I got the most trouble from the girl I latter found was an escort. I ask her about her reason for tearing me a new one for telling her I wrote more than one girl while she was "escorting" other men she said it is business and different...lol Again I know this is only a cross section of girls but in my experience so far I would pay close attention to them and look for the when are you coming...when are you coming....when are you coming....thing. Followed by if you were serious you would be her within 2 months tops....followed by...
jm, I have nothing to base it on, apart from the fact that Latvia is 10 times richer than Moldova(poor though Latvia is) It just happens to be my opinion, that as a country gets richer, the women become more independant, more materialistic and more westernised, of course it is all relative.
My fiance was relatively wealthy in her country, but due to the expense of going out, she would stay in at night, invite friends over or do knitting or needlework, hence she is very intelligent and no push over, but gets pleasure from her house and family and traditional pastimes.
I know for the UK, Riga is now the place everyone goes for their stag night, very lively and quite affluent.
Maybe you disagree with that hypothesis
as you have read, i have been looking at riga women and i noticed what you have said a couple of times and from different people. was just wondering. but i do notice their replys have much more substance than the others. not all , but the ones i am writing to. you know when we the guys here , hear the words westernized, we proceed with caution!!LOL!!
Shaggy and JMO,
Man you guys attract the strangest group of women. I just get straightforward nice ladies. Sometimes there is a hidden agenda as the one in Mariupol but it wasn't anything bad. I respected her for trying to make a better life for her child. Hookers, canned emails, unreasonable demands, money. What is it you are putting out there guys? I seem to be having nothing like that happen to me and it has been easy to find someone. I think it might be age. The beauties in their 20's know what they have and are selling to the highest bidder. That is my only explanation !
Id I found them on another site listed as escorts 200 euros for 4 hours and ask them...they told me it was them after I pointed out the jewelry was the same as well as the DD size breast. I notice she is removed today from fiance.com as well. O darn! But yes I am thinking there are several that are as they said to come to Riga with money and no plans!
I do have several normal girls from Riga I write as well. I think it is just my taste in women. My guess is half of the women in Riga I have written are looking for Mr. Goodbar. I thought I was beeing careful and even choosing women with children but it was no help...lol. I am happy though that the one I did find is very much my true type. You guys know me I am so soft hearted and huggy!