Hello guys, Oleg. Want to ask for clarification again I know but I have someone again telling me that their agency does not allow them to furnish me with there contact info without using their calling service.
"It is not allowed to give my telephone number and e-mail adress through e-mails.But we can organize a phone call through the agency and exchange this information.I will be back on 30 December and if you have a possibility try to call me in this date.OK?"
I have advised this person to contact their agency and clarify this and then reconsider sending the direct contact information. I also mentioned a small note to the agency itself to call Oleg for clarification but again I was under the impression that if they are listed on fiance.com then VIP members emails both ways are not to be editted. Please if you do not mind clarifying this again for me so as I know the proper action to take. Again I have told the lady to speak with their agency and ask as well.
I am not wanting to charge in and cancel or hold anyones membership only to communicate the expectations clearly. I must admit the confidence in the agency in her city is very low at best here and it would seem another attempt at milking money from the great western sky!
This is the agency in Riga. I again do not want the axe to swing but would like them to understand this policy and make sure that this is not happening to anyone else. I have yet to get an address or phone number for anyone in Riga even from the one that claims she has love for me will not share it. It is constantly avoided in all correspondence. I do not know if it is the same service or different agencies but again it would seem they are not aware of this agreement or the lady herself is not aware but I just want to educate them as well as any other guys going through the same thing!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....she loves you so much that she cannot give you her phone number, uh?
These are some of the lines I'd written to those who somehow do not feel the need to exchange their phone numbers, addresses, photos or other personal information with me:
"Dear XXX, I understand your need to be cautious about the men with whom you share your personal information. Take all the time you need to feel comfortable enough to share the information...when you decide to do so, I'll be more than happy to continue correspondence with you, providing I'm not already married, in love with someone else or have died of old age..:).."
"Please dear XXX, read my profile again, it clear says I am only interested in women who DO NOT play mystery games and are willing to share their personal information and current photos in order to develop a real firendship with me..."
"I'm sorry, dear XXX, but women who play mystery games bore me to death...good luck to you in your future endevours"
"Dear XXX, In the time it took you took to NOT respond to any of my specific question about your personal life I have already corresponded with at least six other ladies who did not hesitate to answer my questions quickly and honestly. Good luck to you, I'm not longer interested..."
Why waste time with women who want to play mystery games?????
No toad they claim they do not have a phone. Again I am just going through the motions here to make sure but my experience so far has been Riga is a bust. This person is very sincere and genuine answers my letters and questions but says she does not have a phone and never gives her address or any reasons...Go figure but she sure got mad when I said I cant make the trip without it...lol. A little off subject as it is the others that have ask for me to use there services. She has never ask anything but for me to visit as soon as posible. Of course everyone in Riga seems to be more tour guide than fiance seeker.
shaggy, I have told you about our policies for the agencies several times. and I told you that we do not read what agency , girls write and there is a customer service for that. why do you ask it 100 times on the forum:) do you think it will change somebody's mind:) aks customer service, they will talk to that agency and get you conference call set up.
No Oleg I am just saying it here for the benefit of others. I am not wanting you to do anything to them or about them just letting people know the expected activities of these agencies as you say that should not do this with ladies listed here. I have no desire to pay for a conference call. I only want to call her directly.
Am I not correct that you said any lady an agency list on this site there should be no editing by them as well or did I miss understand that. I am only wanting to clarify this as it seems to come up often and it would seem by the same agency. I advised the lady to question their agency about it as I understand their want to make money off of me I am under the impression that their agreement with you is they are not to hold out any contact information.
To me this is an attempt by the agency to scam people into overpriced calls with their service. I am still not ready to be sucked into such. If the lady is intersted in me she will be willing to provide this information. If the agency is unwilling to allow it they should be warned. I am following chanels with her first and if they still refuse then I will send the information on to customer service. In the mean time I feel it is a service to other members to warn them about these kind of mistakes that go on and on and no one will take responsiblity for. Who evers fault does not matter. I am under the impression that this forum is to be an aid in our search and I am doing my best to be that aid. Again I am clear that this is an outside agency and not fiance.com as yes you have told me a thousand times that you only make money from the site and that you are not responsible for its content. I am only here using the site and I only have to live with this person for the rest of my life. I will be careful and continue to share my findings good or bad as this is my way of handling things. I am not after anyone but those abusing the system to extort business or money or bread or whatever. So please correct me if I am wrong but I am not slinging names or companies but I am finding the gentle pressure gets results from them.
Shaggy- There is an easy way to settle the dilemma with this woman if you are still interested in her. It will probably cost you around 15 bucks but go ahead and call her through her agency's service and ask her immediately for her phone# and address. That would be the first thing out of my mouth.If you get it, tell her thanks and good-bye and if you don't get it, tell her the same thing. Remember, this is only if you are still interested. They make a little bit of money off you but not the amount that they would hope for. And you would finally learn the truth of the matter. (whose holding back info) Her or Them!
I agree with Dale. stop this paranoia that everbody wants to scam you. call them try it.
she doesn't have her private email or computer, or communication over the phone skills most probably. what do you want? as I said before stop using this site. look for free rides somewhere else. what do you call scam? conference call with translation service? you are not there. beleive me it is very difficult to talk to somebody with different language over the phone.
yeah, makes sense doesn't it? Pay a bit and circumvent the system this way. Indeed such a call would sort the wheat from the chaff instantly, at a low cost also, and I'd advise Shag to do it.
However, I can also see Shag's point Oleg, and I'm sure you realize his' full well. Fiance - a subscription-mediator only! - advertises that one may send anything, and I have no doubt this is true. However, if then an agency denies such by intervening, quite clearly the case here (and elsewhere?), at LEAST it should be mentioned in Fiance's blurb! Say it like it is, nothing wrong with some openness, honesty last longest.
If Finace however disagrees with such agency-behaviour, a thing not quite clear from your posts Oleg(!), then surely they can, may or will rap the purpetrating agency over the knuckles.
Referral to "feel free to go elsewhere" is hardly advise born out of customer-service principles, and Oleg, this is one of the things immeasurably different between the worlds once seperated by a curtain. If I displayed your attitude to my clients I'd be out of business a long time ago, also I won't lick their behind but I will listen to reasonable comments - not too much asked for I suppose?
Bottom line: DOES Fiance condone agency-interference or DON'T they, and WILL they take corrective action if it exists, or NOT?
if any, not Baltic-bound only, girl tells me there's no number, maybe connected with time's/date's for calls, they can be reached on she lies. Tough for that unique Eskimo-girl living exceptionally remote deprived from any means of communication ;-)
Dont know really, maybe people think we live here like eskimos, bears in streets and so on. So girls can lie what ever they want and lots of plonkers (excuse me but seem I take over my brit only bad language)belive them!
When I met my dream man I asked him several time to call me, he didnt because hes so careful. When he called at last we talked about an hour. Thats why Im absolutely dont understand what people write here, what bloody agency (excuse me again). If these russian girls love somebody they will go trough the wall to get to know the guy they like.
Thanks Thunder as I think you may be the only one that gets my point here. All this is a ploy to sell phone calls. Yes it may be $15 or $150 that is not the point. It is the simple question will this agency honor the agreement with fiance.com and will fiance.com advertise its services honestly. If this is not part of my service it should say so. Unedited responses from some not all. This is the biggest problem I have found is that the first solution to anything wrong is to be told to ignore it. This is a clear cut violation of what I have been told agencies are supposed to do with our mail. Again sometimes it is a matter of honor and principal. I have been very strait forward either ask the agencies to honor the agreements between fiance.com and there customers or change and clarify the services to fit these agencies that feel that fiance.com will never enforce these agreements. The main reason being is the all mighty dollar. I would think it is obvious but again we get the lets play dumb until he gives up. It must be difficult to pull off but I must say there seems to be plenty of practice.
what you are asking is very clear and uncomplicated. it is their writing on the wall, not yours. yes, i feel they are hoping you tire out and forget it. for right now, until you tire out , they hope, t.d.,s solution is the only answer.
Excuses, excuses again Im just not used to american style of message board, we in Estonia trying to be very short in our posts.
Im just curious : How so called "agency" will know you called your girlfriend? Why she cant call from post-office? All young kids in baltic states have mobile phones, or shes some kind of trailer trash!
Annika my experience is that most of the ladies in Riga are nothing more than tour guides trying to drum up visitors to their city. I have had no trouble with anyone else anywhere. This is true for every girl I have had contact with in that city. It is clear that the agency there is doing this with there ladies as a way to get cash for these services. It is also very clear that there main interest is to get you to travel to Riga period. They don't want to work on relationships in the mean time and do not seem to care who I visit as long as I visit now. Of course Oleg would love me to conference call wih all the ladies I have written to as he will get his cut on the call I am sure. The simple point I am making and will until it is changed is I pay for a service that claims my letters are not edited and that contact information is not removed or restricted. If it is it should be made clear. If not it is nothing more than fraud that is allowed to happen. I am only asking for what I have already paid for. Nothing more. Again all I have ask is for Oleg to state clearly this expectation of the agencies and you would think I ask him to betray his family. I have never seen such skirting of the topic in all my life. It is cut and dry yet they act as if I am asking for the imposible. I only want it to be clear to all.
Annika it is the policy of the agency not to allow the girls to give their contact information to me except in a paid phone conference with them. It is completely bogus. In effect they are holding such information until I pay for it. For the second time.