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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Women with children Author Post gary496 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2002 3:52:08 PM   This question is for the moderators. I read somewhere (I forget where) that Russian women wishing to take their children out of the country must have permission of the father, while this is not true for some other countries like Unraine and Belarus. Can you comment on this? Do you which countries require a father's permission and which do not? Also, I have heard that it is very difficult for a women with children to find a husband in Russia. What is your opinion on this? Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2002 5:51:52 AM   As far as I know this is the requirement of INS/it doesnt depends on the country of the lady( Russia, Ucraine,Belarus). So this is required by USA emigrational authorities. As for finding a husband...I think that in general men tend to marry women without children, but it doesnt mean that it is always like that.There are some exceptions everywhere ;-)))) gary496 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2002 12:11:28 AM   What I have heard is this - Russian authorities do not require women to get permission of the father to take children out of the country, but this is required by Belarus and Ukraine authorities. Maybe you could get this information from your agencies in Belarus and Ukraine? Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2002 2:32:45 AM   okey, I'll ask our partners gary496 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/15/2002 12:39:18 AM   Olga - Sorry to bug you, but have you found out anything on this question? Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/15/2002 4:22:16 AM   As for Ukraine-I got a response from our partners in Ukraine that this is a necessary requirement, a permission of the father.It should be translated and notarized. gary496 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/15/2002 11:54:40 PM   Olga - Thanks for the answer. I think what I have read elsewhere is correct, that permission from the father is required in Ukraine and Belarus, but perhaps not in Russia. Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/16/2002 5:33:01 AM   As far as I know, same is in Russia.The permission of the farther is required too. gary496 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/17/2002 1:43:56 PM   Olga - It seems to me that starting a correspondence or relationship with a lady with children could be risky. You could fall in love only to find that she is not able to move out of country because the father will not give permission for the children to leave! Doesn't this make it difficult for ladies with kids to find a husband abroad? Of course if the lady is a widow then there is no problem! Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/18/2002 8:26:42 AM   I am not sure that it can be risky,,,Im working here for 4 years and I've seen many women with children who got married and went abroad with their kids.And I dont know any cases( perhaps there are some but I havent seen those) when women didnt get permissions from their kid's father,And moreover, as far as I know this question is usually discussed on the first stages of correspondence, just ask the lady what she thinks about it and how she thinks it will work in future between her ex-husband and the paperwork required. It is not difficult for womrn with children to find a husband abroad because great majority of our customers dont see that as a problem when a lady has one child.Of course more then one makes the things a bit difficult and reduces the chances of the lady. Jona Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/19/2002 2:16:32 PM   To gary496, re your 08.18.2002 8:26 letter YOUR last line : "Of course if the lady is a WIDOW then there is no proplem ! " What are you suggesting gary ? You're not saying.................. Jona harry Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/19/2002 5:41:33 PM   I think he means that you don't need the permission of a father who died. What else? gary496 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/19/2002 9:20:34 PM   Olga - Thanks for your answer. harry - I think Jona was just joking. Jona - You WERE just joking, right? Of course you were. monolith Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/20/2002 11:55:30 AM   A gold star for Gary, a D cap for Harry and a beer for Jona....... gary496 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/21/2002 12:16:36 AM   monolith - Thanks for the gold star! What is a "D cap"? Is this some sort of Australian slang? All I know about AU is what I could get reading the side of a Foster's can. Hey, now that I have my very own gold star, maybe Olga would marry me! monolith Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/21/2002 7:01:28 AM   D cap = someone who is a wombat....... and someone who is being a wombat is a person who is one sandwich short of a pinic. Foster's is exported from australia because Australian's won't drink it. If you ever come over try all the beers, then you can make your own decision as state by state its a beer war as to who makes the best beer. Apart from that I find it easy to accept a woman locally with a child, so, I have no problems with that, but the concern for the child in Russia is stopping me from taking interest in RWs with children. It is not because of the child being a burden, not at all, just the issues associated with bringing a child into a foreign country and the rights of the father as well. Assuming there is no father then that being the biggest issue may alleviate other concerns. I have seen many terrible acts by parents on both sides by taking the child away from the other parent just to "win" the fight. Sadly this is a world wide issue. Permission is probably a morale issue rather than a law and dealt with accordingly, but like anything we have a level of trust and faith in the women in telling us the truth about the permisssion being given. So, roll the dice and see what numbers come up.... anyone for Russian Roulette? Jona Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/21/2002 8:17:50 PM   To Harry and Olga::::::::::::::::: Yes, of course I was joking........ I have been reading too many Russian mystery novels. ;-)) By the way I had the reverse situation happen to me. I ccorresponded with a RW and in a follow up letter I ask bluntly if she have children .........since it was unclear what she ment in her first posting by saying.." I will be a good and loyal woman to my man and am a good mother , and will make a cozy home etc, etc, etc......." Now , did she say I WILL BE a good mother , or did she say SHE IS NOW ALLREADY a mother? Well when I ask for clairification she responded whih a sarcastic an insulting letter saying that I had not even read her letter at all and just wrote to her picture........ she was mad......but she said she had two one 5 yo and one 8 yo...... RW have the same conflict as you gary ....truth or continued lonliness. In any case, gary, and all ya'll others with young ones......good luck and just keep trying. Jona gary496 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/21/2002 11:39:25 PM   monolith - I get it, a D cap, one sandwich short of a picnic, one beer short of a sixpack, there's a light on but nobody is home .... Hey, maybe Olga can give us the Russian version of this. Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2002 5:45:34 AM   Gary:No, Olga can't give any Russian versions of this, sorry ;-)))But at least now I know what is D cap for ;-))) Jona:I think thats more likely a communication barrier problem. You would hit the floor laughing on what ladies put in their letter sometimes, and when poor confused men dont understand them...But you are quite right saying-its a choise between honesty and loneliness,in both cases-honesty and unhonesty the reaction of both sides can be unpredictable ;-) monolith Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2002 9:23:53 AM   Dcap = its what you wear on your head when you say something silly, i.e a cap or hat with the letter "D" for Dunce. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Women with children
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