Hi all, i have been reading the pages on the forum and it it so nice to find so many who are prepaired to speak thier minds.
Ok, as most or all of you, i have meet a wonderful woman from Chisinue, letters etc, has been straight to the point regarding her life, her family and what she desires. She has invited me to visit, this only after a couple of weeks and not that many letters, seems a bit sudden. This is why i have come to you. Not knowing a thing about her culture, sorry but its true, is it the norm. I would love to go and probably will, weather or not i decide to meet with her ive yet to see.
So any light you can throw onto this dilema will be great, good or bad, dont hold back. THANKS ALL.
what's the problem? You'd love to go, seem to like her, and if you can afford it - why not?
The reason why she asks may well be to determine if you're a keyboard romeo or a live one, and you better answer her. Goto www.womenrussia.com and read the lot (that means all!), and then scratch around for more because there's many. This info should come in handy and will aid you in judging her better, however common sense prevails.
I'm sure you know you never send money for whatever, but going there you must do in any case sooner or later. That is if you like her, and that nobody will know by you only.
Essex,
It is said that only 5% of guys who write letters will actually travel, the remainder are keyboard romeo's.
Perhaps she has had some KR's thus wants to test if you are another, of course she wants to meet you, that's what this is all about isn't it?
Seriously Essex,.. GO!!
It feels much better to do it for real, I feel sorry for the guys wich are just sitting there dreaming of it! Just do it!* (*advertising). As Martin so nicely said it, 95% are "Keyboard Romeo's".. REAL love does not come through the keyboard alone, you need to see her to feel the chemistry between you. I didn't know anything about my girls culture either, but I had to go, and what a success story so far! I know nothing about the future, but hell, I am going to enjoy it as long as it feels good and right! Don't sit around with your dreams, they will not take you far if you do nothing to realise them! You better prove your seriousness to her man! And one more thing, it is great to see the world as well, you are growing from it! And you will have something to talk about for a long time :)
More time in correspondence is needed to get to know the girl and do anti-scam checks.
You can get scammed on the personal visit..she can fool you into spending a lot on her in shopping sprees and expensive activities and then dump you.
I would not travel knowing a FSU girl for only 2 weeks.
You need to get to know all about her, her background and her parents.
2 weeks correspondence and then she suggests a personal visit..its way too quick..next thing she will say is that she loves you without having meet you.
I feel that you should write to her for 3 to 6 months at least.
Dont waste your money.
If it works out, the longer you have known her, the better your chances of getting a Fiancee Visa..this is true for countries such as Australia.
Read Elena Petrovas anti-scam guide as suggested.
Its too quick and your right to be suspicious.
Give yourself time and chance to check her out and if all is ok then you should go but 2 weeks of knowing her is not enough time to safely guage anything.
It amazes me some of the people in here are not with the real world and are giving out advice thats going to lead some people to have a bad fall.
Hey we are not talking about $100 meal and a blind date at a restuarant for a local women..we talking about a lot more time, a lot more money and a lot more emotions at stake here to when you do a personal visit with an FSU bride because in essence..it is a very expensive blind date.
You just cant advise lonely men who are emotionally vulnerable to go to the FSU after knowing a women for only 2 weeks by e-mail..what bull shit that is!
Read the anti-scam guides and how to successfuly do this without getting burnt or wasting your money.
Aussieman,
You continue to look for excuses why 'not' to travel to FSU and not reason why 'to' travel to FSU.
He's not about to travel knowing a lady for only 2 weeks, by the time he has arranged holiday from work, air tickets, visa's etc. it's more likely to be 2 months, that's a good time to be meeting with a lady.
All you need to do an anti-scam check is her full name, address & landline telephone number, when pretending to organise his visa he can say he needs this information and run all of these through a google.com search or more.
Only a fool can be fooled into an expensive shopping spree, if one thinks with their brain and not with their prick it's quite easy to realise what's going on and say 'no'.
Write to a lady for 6 months! And then what? This letter writing is 'acting', you will not know if you get along with each other without actually being with each other, occupying some time together. It's better to risk only wasting 2 months of your life rather than 6 months of your life. A serious lady is not likely to wait 6 months for a guy, if he doesn't show willing she's likely to be writing to other guy(s) who do show willing.
Accepted that you claim to be talking about lonely and vunerable men, I haven't met any of them and just for the record, and whilst not the norm, I met my lady after only 5 days of letters last April, I didn't give her time to write to other guys! I had had a last minute change of plan, tickets booked etc., she had recently advertised and I told her I could be in her city next week.
Accepted it's not the norm, I was lucky, but it's the best relationship ever, she's a great lady and she thinks likewise about me, there is a saying, 'he who dares, wins'.
Your dead wrong Martin...you need time to build the relationship by letter and telephone as well..6 months is what it took me with the first foreign wife..we used snail mail as there was no internet in those days but with internet at least 3 months of communication is needed..remember most of these FSU women do not have the luxury of home based internet and may only go to the internet cafe or marriage agency once a week too check there mail and some dont even have e-mail addresses and you have to rely on snail mail.
Google check is not sufficient..it will not tell if they are married, have boyfriends or verify there address and details..you may find a scammer if your lucky but these people change identities, photos and e-mail addresses all the time ( at least the smart ones do ).
A simple background check costs about $120 USD ( A small price to pay that could save you thousands )..you don't trust anyone you have not personally meet and take them for face value and what they say..you have to verify there address and details as to who they say they are.
Martin there was one bloke from the UK who went to Lugansk in Ukraine and his lovely Ukraina girl had him bashed and robbed for the trouble he went to to come.
DO YOU YOUR BACKGROUND CHECKS BEFORE TRAVEL TO MINIMISE RISK.
I am not saying do not go to the FSU but at the same time dont dive into the deep end with this with out some simple inexpensive protection by knowing all the facts of your girl are true before travel.
Also immigration authorities require a considerable period of knowing the FSU girl before she can apply for a Fiancee visa and get accepted.
I dont know about the UK, Martin but in Australia a Fiancee Visa would never be issued to a FSU woman you have only known 5 days.
There has to be an established record of communication built up over time and at least knowing her for 6 months before applying ..the authorities her in Australia will scrutinize an FSU women and they will interview her and look at all your records of communication with her..like I said in Australia women from FSU countries are far more closely scrutinized and investigated because of the immigration scams that have happenned here involving these women and the negative public media exposure of it.
I was only a few months away from going to a personal meeting with my former Kiev, girl around 25th March and I could not leave the country because I am wait listed to have some serious throat surgery next month at hospital because I get tosilitis a lot and other problems.
She knew I needed an operation and had to wait on it.
I was not going to go to the Ukraine, knowing that I was not medically fit and likely to get sick over there..not a good idea to do that.
About now I would have paid for a background check on her even after 9 months of writing and only gone if that check came back okay.
I was planning to stay for 2 months and was researching private apartments in Kiev on the internet and had picked one near Kreshatyk St ( Central Kiev area ) that was going to cost me $900 USD a month.
But it did not pan out like that as alarm bells went off about the girl and then I pulled the plug on the whole thing.
A search for an FSU bride might take a few years for an Australian.
First meeting and establish communication by e-mail and then phone..TIME FRAME: 4 months
Things are serious: TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS..TIME FRAME: 2 MONTHS
The personal visit: TIME FRAME..MINIMUM 1 MONTH SPEND WITH HER
Application for a Fiancee Visa: MINIMUM 7 MONTH WAIT FOR APPLICATION TO BE APPROVED AND VISA ISSUED ( Australian embassy in Moscow...minimum standard of processing service for a fiancee visa is 7 months and they ask you make no enquiries until after this time has elapsed.)
TRAVEL ARRANGEMENTS FOR YOUR BRIDE AFTER VISA ISSUED: TIME FRAME: 1 MONTH
TOTAL REALISTIC AMOUNT OF TIME FROM FIRST INTERNET MEETING UNTIL SHE LANDS ON AUSTRALIAN SOIL: minimum 15 months if lucky with the embassy.
Fiancee visas are a capped visa class ( yearly number is restricted ) so waits of up to 12 months are not unusaul for the Moscow embassy.
Aussieman,
I've never done the full background check and despite this, never met a married one.
You talk about 3 months for the ladies that use a cafe once a week or an agency. Point 1, I've never met with a lady that writes thru an agency, simply because you don't know who writes the letters and I do know what I'm talking about, my lady works as an interpreter in such an agency and, point 2. What about all the ladies that use a computer from work, go to the cafe a few times each week etc.
Any guy that writes with a lady from Lugansk is his own worst enemy for not doing some research in the first place.
The UK authorities do not need a guy to know a lady for a considerable period. 3-4 years ago, I had written for 2 months, met with her, spent some time with her, went to the embassy and they issued he fiance visa the same day as the interview .... bastards!
I appreciate Aussieman that you are talking from an Australian perspective but you talk as if you have to write for a long time so as they can issue a fiancee visa. Please don't forget there's such a thing as an old-fashioned relationship, you know, where 2 people occupy time together, become good friends, fall in love before they make, perhaps that most important decision, to get married.
Apart from your remote location and your immigration issues you're, with the exception of your surgery, just making excuses not to travel. Before the internet 6 months would not have been unreasonable to write, when a single exchange of letters may take 3-4 weeks but there's no such excuse these days, we just need to remember not to compare marriage to fast-food.
No..I dont get bored. I have a Aussie girlfriend now and we had a screw yesterday.
Times have changed since 3 or 4 years ago...FSU scammers have become more well known and a lot more active.
Since Sixty Minutes ran a nationwide television story in September 2003 about Russian bride immigration scams that embarrrassed the immigration department, things have changed forever and got a lot harder to get your FSU girl here to Australia.
I write for the benefit of Australians so that they know what there getting into before they do it.
I know people who are doing this fiancee spouse immigration business..one lady friend married an Eygytian under Muslim law ( she did not think it was a marriage but in Eygypt it is recognised as a legal marriage and therefore a legal marriage for Australia ) and now she cant bring him here on a fiancee visa..she has to use a spouse visa and to qualify for that, she has to now go and live in Eygypt for 1 year with him ( the spouse proof of relationship requirement ) if she ever wants to bring the man she loves to Australian soil.
The immigration rules are complex and I may be helping her with the immigration paperwork.
Australians have to travel a long way to the FSU ( 27 hours plane travel including stopovers to change planes to Kiev from the East Coast for example E.G Melbourne-Bangkok-Frankfurt-Kiev) and it costs a lot of money ( about $2000 Australian plus taxes to Kiev as the cheapest air fare ) and I dont want to see an Aussie man screw this up by not following proper procedures or end up disappointed or heartbroken..it happens a lot to us Aussies and its been widely publicised..mention the word Russian internet brides and people cringe about it here and think you are f.ck.n crazy in the head for doing this sort of thing.
I do not a lot about Australian immigration law.
I have successfully bought a foreign bride here and 12 years latter we divorced.
"...mention the word Russian internet brides and people cringe about it here and think you are f.ck.n crazy in the head for doing this sort of thing..."
In the US, the topic only drives WOMEN up the wall..;)
US women do not like the idea of having their pee-sitting down trained countrymen going off to seek women from other cultures.
"How dare you..!!" was the comment I got from an old time lady friend when I told her I was going to Siberia in March to meet a russian woman....
Nevermind that she has a foreigner (brit) as a live-in boyfriend.
They just cannot handle the competition, lol....Gotta love it!!