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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Im a international dating virgin. Need some help guys. Author Post jpj Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/8/2005 9:38:38 AM   Hey all, Im new to this sort of lark, so need a bit of wisdom from those of you in the know. Firstly,I'm using Confidential Connections, anything good or bad about them you know of, I would be glad to hear of it. I'm not sure of the procedures that Ukrainian women use or if they are under the control of the dating agency that they are with but I seem to be at a stalemate in my mission. I have been emailing a girl in Lugansk for about 3 weeks, I know only 3 weeks, but one of the problems is, most of what I say in my emails are never mentioned, either over looked as not important or lost in translation or indeed totally ignored. Any one had that experience? The times when I write to her and say that she never mentioned anything from my last email she says something like " What do you mean, I never mentioned anything" Doh! Where do I go with that? I read somewhere about someone else having a similiar problem but can't find it again now I want it. Other things such as being asked if I had any other photo's to put on the page, however now that I have, she hasn't mentioned them. I'm not that bloody ugly I know. It's like she doesn't know that I have changed them. Also it seems strange but it's like talking to different people. The style of thought and sentances just seems to be different sometimes. I'm in a job that I have the weigh people up in a matter of seconds and I'm good at it too but this seems strange. I bought her flowers through the agency, got a line and a half mentioned about them and nothing since 5 emails later. I have no personal information about her at all, no personal contact info outside of the agency. How long would anyone expect to carry on emailing without any personal stuff coming forward. I know about the IRON CURTAIN but this iron ain't even rusted at all. To be honest I don't even know that it's the girl that talking to me or a bloody receptionist at the agency. Any thoughts? GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/8/2005 11:01:47 AM   PJ, Time to get out of bed, out of those 'pjs' and smell the coffee. Everything you suspect and gives you a creepy feeling of "WTF?" regarding these woman seems to be right on the money. In a little over a year, counting the other site I visit, I have written or talked to over 400 women. Of those 400 or so women, I am going to visit ONE in the next few weeks. To some, that seems like a grossly disproportionate amount of visits and/or effort. But when I started this quest, I had a crystal clear concise mental picture of what I wanted to find in a woman for a long term relationship. Some of those requirements were: 1. She speaks enough english, spanish, italian, or portuguese to communicate with me DIRECTLY. 2. She makes no qualms whatsoever letting me know her personal information. 3. She does NOT depend entirely on a marriage/dating/scamming agency, which means once the initial introductions are made, she is free to e-mail me or talk on the phone directly. I stuck to these basics as much as possible. And I am very pleased with the results. I know I lost the opportunity to meet and fall in love with some of the most wonderful women FSU has to offer. But at the same time, I avoided the majority, if not all of the pitfalls affecting those who must pay 'tribute' to an agency for the privilege of finding a good woman and to get what they seek. Read as many of the topic threads as possible before you let your wallet follow your heart when you find a photo of a pretty woman. NEVER SEND MONEY TO ANYONE YOU HAVE NOT MET IN PERSON. NEVER SEND GIFTS TO ANYONE YOU HAVE NOT IRREFUTABLE PROOF OF THEIR EXISTENCE AND WILLIONGNESS TO KNOW YOU. Good luck, mate toad Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/8/2005 11:59:26 AM   "Doh! Where do I go with that?" Elsewhere jpj, i.e another one. Socalled 'canned' letters (general templates) are commonly used, on either side I should add, and when after 1 or 2 mails this does not change (like in getting personal and clearly aimed at you) - you change your target. What you also will be interested in is the fact that Lugansk has more honest women than dishonest one's - but it would appear that this city statisctically peaks for its scammers, and these are a lot online. Read ALL you find on www.womenrussia.com, and also pull whatever data you've got of the one(s) you're corresponding with through a search engine, and see what's echoed. Good habit, and although some wankers report totally above-board women on these site's (because they turn them down) it at least is good to know that someone has, maybe for good reasons, certainly when you find a lot of hits. Doing loads of homework helps a lot, and simply not sending money ever, or presents/flowers too early, also helps. I mention this because you've sent flowers to what I'd call a non-serious person. "person' yes, you have no idea who's writing you by the sounds of it, so go fishing elsewhere. Don't drool over a pic either. When after a while you think a visit is in order go, and do ask her then if she's expecting someone else before you'll be there. And take it from there, a visit, not beforehand. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Im a international dating virgin. Need some help guys.
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