I wanted to start this thread out of curiosity of how other members fair with positive or not so positive replys from ladies of St. Pete and Moscow. To me, i have had no luck with these ladies from these two cities being a member for fourteen months . I can guarentee they will send me not interested replys. It is as if they post their photos and profiles just to prove they want to say no. Or at least to me. All my positive replys come from of course Ukraine and Belarus and all those other smaller places. I would like to hear from men on their replies and experiences. I thought it was time for a new thread but i would like to hear from you men on this. Maybe my photo is on a billboard with an X on it there. !! lol
St. Pete and Moscow I would say are two happening cities with plenty of money rolling in from the high price of oil. It would seem to me that women from such places would only be willing to leave if the guy they are interested in has money and is closer to their own age.
Ice
Spent a month in both places late 2004. Ice pretty well on the button.
Big money in both cities. 30 years age and under with good looks, have plenty of local talent with big bucks.
I have never seen so many MX5BMW's - VX Cruisers - Latest Mercs and guess what, they are all Black.
My experience is the outer lying cities have more genuine ladies looking abroad for love and lifestyle. The ladies, especially in Moscow seem pretty happy with what they got. It seems an accepted thing there, that rich men have young beautiful women mistresses. They supply the flat / apartment and for the bit on the side and mum and the kids live in outskirts in very large mansions. You can see some of them as you fly into SMT2 airport.
Maxirat is exactly right. I too have spent some time in both cities. Moscow and St. Pete girls are already polluted by our western style of living. Money and or fame are required if you do not have super good looks. And even with the looks you better have some money. The standard of living is growing at a rapid pace in both cities. The reasons and motivation to leave their country is diminishing. This will spread to the outer regions of all the FSU countries eventually. That is why I have said in the past this party is over in five years or less. Get your girl now boys!
I disagree about S.P. and Moscow ladies. I was just in both cities for a month and met many wonderful, genuine women, all under age 25. None were looking for a sugar daddy.
The ladies that I met in S.P. were more cultured and educated than women that I met in smaller cities and they were just as genuine and sincere. Just because you see new black Mercedes with tinted windows doesn't mean that everyone in these cities is living large. Remember that Moscow has about 15 million residents (including illegal residents). For every black S600 you see there are thousands of people living in dingy flats and taking the Metro to their crappy job. If they have a job, that is; one of the ladies that I met had a degree in economics and had been looking for a job for months.
The women that I met were not as desperate to leave as some women that I've met in poorer towns in Ukraine, but they were all looking for a good, reliable, faithful man, just like women everywhere. It had nothing to do with money.
Because of the wide variety of conveniences available in the bigger cities, I noticed over the last year and a half that women from SP and Moscow were more inclined to seek, discuss and expect a relationship with a man who is more likely to match and provide their preferences and the material aspects of daily life that they are accustomed to already in their large cities.
It was easy for me to both recognize and let go of most of these women, because I grew up in a large city and I do not have the slightest intention of ever again live in such place.
I'm far from a hermit and I find a happy, well balanced medium as long as I can live close to the ocean cool, clean breezes and within striking distance of all the fun stuff mega cities like Los Angeles and San Diego can offer me.
Once we're comfortable knowing what the hell is it we want as a way of lifestyle for our own happiness, it's not that difficult to find others who match and it's even easier to find those who glaringly do not.
In Moscow I met two ladies through fiance.com, and two ladies through another website where I had purchased their contact information. In S.P. I also met two ladies through fiance.com and six or seven others through an agency there. My personal experience with fiance.com is that I never know when I'll get a response. I think the probability of a response was about the same regardless of whether they lived in Ukraine or S.P.
I am sure that there are ladies in the bigger cities who are just looking for a wealthy man to take care of them. But I just don't see the evidence that that is what most women want. Think about it...if you are a young attractive woman why would you give your youth to some man who just wants a mistress? You know that he will leave you when he tires of you and turns his attention to a younger girl.
The women that I met in the big cities just wanted a normal marriage with a responsible, faithful, stable man. Even in big cities such a man is apparently hard to come by in Russia. Furthermore, the prospects for a woman having a rewarding job are not good even in Moscow or S.P. I met one very smart lady who had a law degree and spoke great English but couldn't find work. In general, my experience is that this whole idea of FSU women becoming "spoiled" just doesn't seem true. Sure, all these women watch MTV and Sex in the City, but they are still gentle, family-oriented, and decent (unlike some women I know here in the U.S.).
For me, I'd rather spend my life with a lady from S.P. who appreciates art, music, literature, and education than with a lady from a small village in Ukraine, who may be less "Westernized" but more "traditional" (whatever those words actually mean). And yes, I have met both sorts of ladies. Neither type is better or worse; it's all a matter of what you are looking for.
VN
What you have answered and argued is correct. Me and Ice were giving a comparative to the other out lying areas.
I saw the same in Ukraine - to lesser degree. Kiev compared to Kharkov. You can see by the way the move - mix and act. All countries have the same comparatives. The "in scene" and the more normal ways of life.
Getting back to the Question at the top, too me it would be the most probable reason for a " not so positive replies from ladies of SPB and Moscow"
If a man in his 40's or 50's is trying to lure a beautiful bright eyed attractive lady in her 20's, then he will most definably have a slightly bigger task on his hands with ladies from the "In Scene" cities.
True, I agree that it may be harder for a 40-50 year old man to find an attractive lady in her 20's in St. Petersburg than it would be in Kharkov or Ivanovo.
Although...I am engaged to a beautiful 21 year old from S.P. and I'm right at the bottom of the above age range. (And I'm neither famous nor particularly wealthy.)
Congradulations VN.
Must admit to a rather nice association with a 21 yr old myself in SPB. Me and the Barman (he was Indian and spoke Russian) just walked up to 2 chicks sitting in the park at Peters-Gulf (or how ever you say it) and we spent the rest of the day and a good part of the night back at the SPB Hotel. Had a great day & night.
And, I am getting close to the Top of that age range. (Bugger)
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