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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Shengens Visa ?? Author Post Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/22/2005 1:04:15 AM   Not sure if spelt correct. My lady in Kiev mentioned it. She also said that in the near future the new government is going to allow access into Ukraine Visa free with this. Anyone know anything about this ??? N()R Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/22/2005 8:38:32 AM   Yes, Maxi :) I know a lot about this :)) It is true as she says that this is about to take place shortly. Schengen is an cooperation between countries that is member of the EU (European union), or EEA (European economic area). In short terms it means that with a Schengen visa, you may enter one country and travel freely throughout the Schengen zone. Internal border controls have disappeared; there are no or few stops and checks. This means that internal air, road and train travel are handled as domestic trips, similar to travel from one US state to another. The 15 Schengen countries are: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Greece, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain and Sweden. All these countries except Norway and Iceland are European Union members. But every year some more countries become members of the schengen treaty. If you intend to visit only one Schengen country, you must apply for a visa at the Embassy or Consulate of that country. If you intend to visit several Schengen countries without having a main destination, you should apply for a visa at the Embassy or Consulate of the first country that requires you to have a visa. Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/22/2005 3:10:06 PM   Thank you Nor Very well explained. You not a school teacher by any chance ???? Thanx mate. Couldnt find anything about it on Google !!!! dreamfinder Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/22/2005 6:06:27 PM   N()R, what about Litva, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakei, Hungary and Slovenia? I think most of them joined EU in May 2004... N()R Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/22/2005 6:22:39 PM   Dream, Yes they did, but to be member of the EU or EEA is not the same thing as they will be automatic members of the schengen treaty. It is still possible to become members of the EU and stand outside schengen. Also it is possible to stand outside EU but be member of schengen, just like Norway and Iceland. This is something each country decide for themselves, and also the other schengen countries have to approve the new country to enter the treaty. I have read my former post again now, and I can see I was not too good with my choise of words. I ment most EU and EEA countries are members, not all of them. Also when I am correcting myself, I have to say that Ukraine have to apply for membership first, it is not a done deal already. Maxi, no, I am not a teacher :) I was a good student.. lol N()R Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/22/2005 6:39:55 PM   Found some info on the net: During the 1980s, a debate opened up about the meaning of the concept of " free movement of persons ". Some Member States felt that this should apply to EU citizens only, which would involve keeping internal border checks in order to distinguish between citizens of the EU and non-EU nationals. Others argued in favour of free movement for everyone, which would mean an end to internal border checks altogether. Since the Member States found it impossible to reach an agreement, France, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands decided in 1985 to create a territory without internal borders. This became known as the "Schengen area". The name was taken from the name of the town in Luxembourg where the first agreements were signed. This intergovernmental cooperation expanded to include 13 countries in 1997, following the signing of the Treaty of Amsterdam. The Treaty of Amsterdam incorporated the decisions taken since 1985 by Schengen group members and the associated working structures into EU law on 1 May 1999. Development of the Schengen area The first agreement between the five original group members was signed on 14 June 1985. A further convention was drafted and signed on 19 June 1990. When it came into effect in 1995, it abolished the internal borders of the signatory states and created a single external border where immigration checks for the Schengen area are carried out in accordance with a single set of rules. Common rules regarding visas, asylum rights and checks at external borders were adopted to allow the free movement of persons within the signatory states without disturbing law and order. Accordingly, in order to reconcile freedom and security , this freedom of movement was accompanied by so-called "compensatory" measures. This involved improving coordination between the police, customs and the judiciary and taking necessary measures to combat important problems such as terrorism and organised crime. In order to make this possible, a complex information system known as the Schengen Information System (SIS) was set up to exchange data on people's identities and descriptions of objects which are either stolen or lost. Little by little the Schengen area has been extended to include every Member State. Italy signed the agreement on 27 November 1990, Spain and Portugal joined on 25 June 1991, Greece followed on 6 November 1992, then Austria on 28 April 1995 and finally Denmark, Finland and Sweden joined on 19 December 1996. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Shengens Visa ??
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