I just got finished talking to my friend who informed me that his nephew that i know and avoid is missing in the Ukraine. He first started out going to socials and then got confident just flying there and hooking up with women from the web and just combing the bars like he does here.He is 6`2" tall and extremely handsome with a full head of black hair. He discovered something he likes extremely well from what his uncle just told me , legions of the most beautiful women in the world who want to be with him. That is in the FSU. Personally i dont care for him because he is a show off with a big mouth. He likes to dive into a crowd of people he does not know and draw attention. He likes to flash his money also. Someone always manages to slip him an asshole pill in his drink when he is in a bar. But i wish him no harm.
So his uncle Don just told me some things he wanted to share with me because he knows of my travels . His nephew been traveling frequently there for a year and one half now. The last time he was in Kyiv two months ago he was drinking with a woman in a disco. He all of a sudden became very groggy and she took him to a more comfortable sofa in a more private room in the upstairs lounge or such. he woke up with his chain wallet hanging out of his back pocket with one thousand a american dollars missing. She slipped him a mickey.
Well his nephew went again three weeks ago to Odessa. Being he is Italian and close to his family he was calling his mother and e-mailing from cafes every day for the first week
not only to his family but friends . No one has heard not one contact from him for a solid two weeks. His family is shitting bricks right now. I hope his boisterous and bold in your face personality did not seal his fate.
Be careful over there you solo cowboys, dont get to confident and be street savvy. Dont be blinded by beauty and watch your back. As my friend Oksana just reminded me when i was in Kyiv last week with her, she said jeff , you are a foreigner, they know it and we have no real laws over here.
To tell you the truth I have been waiting for something like this to happen. I have read in this forum many times that people tell it is not so dangerous in the FSU. It is worse in US and Europe in general they say... To be honest, I think they have been lucky so far. May be there aren't so many murders in Ukraine and the rest of the FSU, but hell, there are a lot more violence and robbings. May be the reason they say it is so safe is because they have been with a girl, that without their knowledge have taken them through safe places, and looked after them. My friend in Ukraine have said to me that I am not under any surcumstances allowed to walk the streets alone. I must always have an Ukraine friend at my side. There must be a reason for it... You see, if a friend should visit me in my country I would not feel the need to say something like that. I don't think they say it just to be funny... The FSU are not that safe, and you should know it, but don't let it scare you from going there, it is a wonderful place. Just be careful...
1st things first, is that fesival on in odessa about now? I know it was soon. If so the city would be crawling with bad sorts knowing that the place will have many foriners there.
2nd, last time i went to the ukraine I was challenged to a drinking competition (Vodka) by this guy (Vladinmir) I meet at a cafe. I felt safe enough as I went to this cafe a lot and knew most of the people who worked there. As it turned out he was not such a good drinker but the point is, after we had a fair amount of vodka, he was trying to convice me to go to this night club. Easy girls was the impression her was trying to give me. A girl I meet there translated for me and she said he wanted me to go to this club where the girls are easy and also said that these girls were not so nice nor was the club he was talikng about. Maybe it was safe and maybe he was harmless, but , sewer rat might taste like pumpkin pie, I never know I never eat the dirt mo$%&Ír F^&%$#er. Going out localy these days and drinking can be a bad experience. I would not say that he was acting responcably at all. Stay out of trouble guys, and if you do go to clubs, try to keep the drinking light. Who knows , if i went with Vladimir maybe i would go missing too. I did get drunk one night. In a resturaant with a band playinga and a dance floor with 5 girls from the agancy there. They took good care of me but I will say some money did go missing. Always does after a big night LOL
I had a fantastic time. Seven days of warm sunshine and warm nights got back monday night. As everyone probably knows i have a close friend their who is a local guide interpretor and historian .I had some time to kill from work and the plane ticket was cheap and me and her have real fun together. You cannot beleive how many western men there are over there walking around with their FSU ladies or just looking.She said this is the new rage and has been. We sat at outside cafes and she picks them out. Plenty of men in their forties and fifties holding hands with women in their twenties . Lets try not to deviate from the original thread. lol
You know this all started for me because I have friends in St. Petersburg. I have a body guard that goes with me everywhere I travel in the states. He is 6' 8" and is built like a brick sh*thouse I was thinking of not taking him with me to spare myself the extra cost. Do you think that knowing people is enough or would you suggest that I take him with me.
What do you need him for over there any way? You need someone that speak the language, someone that knows where it is safe or not. I think that you can go by yourself if you are going to meet a lady.. She will protect you.. But if you really think you need a bodyguard I think it is better to hire some local guy that knows all the rules of the FSU jungle.. Your man will be just as lost as we all are the first time... No good actually..
my friend oksana will not leave me unattended for any reason. I suggest that she goes inside to get ready to go out and i will be outside sitting at what looks like a friendly outside table on the sidewalk to have a wine outside the Sherborne Guesthouse and she is either concerned or it is personal to her. I do not know. But it does make me wonder if she thinks i am going to trade her in for another in a matter of minutes. LOL After four visits she still handles me to get around . She still insists i am not truly aware of my real surroundings plus i dont speak the language. She might be the best person that i have ever met and just truly cares.
Well we all know about my particular stupidity. I will not do that again ever in my life. I still can't remember a thing that happened to me that night after I got up from the table. A really dumb thing to do even if Marina was looking after me.
In my own case, to be absolutely honest, these countries are not my idea of an ideal tourist destination even if it is of the more adventurous variety. FSU is not where I would be headed to.
I don't know whether it is just Ekaterinburg or if it is everywhere but the scene from my window was absolutely horrible. It was so bad it had a certain beauty. I took a picture of it. Smokestacks, broken walls, abandoned buildings etc. Kind of like Andy Warhol's or Stephen Lowry's work. It is so ordinary and "off" that it becomes charming and even beautiful in its own way.
I walked around in well populated areas alone in daylight and at no time felt threatened. People did look at me a lot. I didn't like that too much. Marina said it was because I look different and I believe her. She said they are just curious. Makes sense.
The reason I go there is because I look for my future wife there that is all. If I was not involved in this and just wanted an adventurous vacation I would head back to the far east like QC has. It isn't for the most part dangerous, it is cheap, beautiful and extremely exotic. If you have never been there give it a try sometime. I spent a lot of time in Penang, Malaysia. Great place.
Like I said this all started because I have friends from FSU that suggest that I try FSU to find a wife. By the way I am not a confrontational kind of guy that is why I have private security. I would not say that I am rich just okay. If I quit working sooner or later I would have to go back. and thanks NOR
My sentiments go for your nephew's family, who in my blatantly cold blooded and unapologetic view are the only victims here.
Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what happens to any american like your nephew who does much to damage the already poor opinion people at all levels have of us worldwide.
Is his ass on some cold slab in an obscure FSU morgue?
Well then, one less superbly idiotic person to continue exporting the ignorance that runs rampant among average american who have no respect for anything or anyone and believe their blue little passport means the Marines will come rescue them or that it gives them a license to treat everyone like dog shit stuck at the bottom of their shoe.
I feel the same lack of sympathy for your nephew as I would for any redneck from Oklahoma who thought he could get well laid and have a good time by bringing his farming fat wallet to East Los Angeles to party with the 'vatos' or South Central LA to jiggy with the 'brothers.'
Again, I feel bad for your family. They do not deserve this crap.
Leave the gorilla at home, mate.
If you're going to meet one woman, you have no reason to worry about safety.
You'd look a lot better if you bring your Mother, not your bodyguard.
Chances are you will not be frequenting the type of places Jmo's idiotic nephew chose to hung around.
And if that's what you want to do, then Jmo's report should give you enough reasons to stay home, instead.
YOU DO NOT FLASH YOUR MONEY or your passport in FSU unless you want to have the creepy crawlies come out of from under their rocks to feast on you.
FSU, or russians at least, are very family oriented people.
There is network of interdependency that is very well developed and serves to protect and provide not just the central family nucleus, but all of its branches, as well. It's used as a very practical means of survival during tough times. And they've known enough of that throughout generations.
So showing you are close to your family members, specially parents and children earns you a lot of cookie points among them.
In other words, the message I got was "if a man does not act the love he professes for his parents and/or children, he is not a man to be trusted to be a good husband to a new woman in his life."
For them it's the easiest way to judge how well they can expect to be treated, regardless of financial status.
You should pay attention to any ladies' willingness to discuss their family background and relationship with her immediate elatives, at least.
Glad to know you are not directly related to that asshole.
You have just made the most IGNORANT, BIGOTTED and MENTALLY RETARDED comment of your pathetic, spiteful and irrelevant career in this forum.
I hope one of these days you do bite your poisonous tongue and rid us all from your menopausic, senseless need to bilittle anything Russian.
Siberia, western siberia at least, is one of the most progressive regions of the Ru Federation due to the wider range of favorable agreements reached during the 90s with Moscow to avoid farther fracture of the country.
Their vast natural resouces reserves and effective government back it up and it shows in the streets.
the middle class is growing, small business are sprouting everywhere and there is money in the streets.
Siberia does not have bears and criminals walking down the streets. Get educated, Annika.