Loopy,
Any woman who tries to steer you towards a tourist visa is: 1) trying to scam you or 2) Is completely ignorant about immigration laws for the US.
BE CAREFUL...!!
Do not ask us what we think..ASK HER.
You should have no qualms whatsoever asking the most specific details about anything you want to know about her.
If she's serious about you, she will do as well.
Loopy
I refer you to what I wrote in Groons thread. MArrying an FSU woman on a tourist visa is HIGHLY dodgy. INS are not idiots they know that everybody will try this and they have slammed that door shut. If they smell that you in anyway knew this girl before she came to the States and you marry her - forget it!!
If you are asking can she come on a straight tourist visa the answer is yes. Marina came in and out of the USA on a tourist visa for a year. She could have come with her girlfriend and that girlfriend may have married an American. None of that means diddly without more specific information. She probably isn't lying. Where did she visit?
Toad has mentioned this before and I agree with him. If you are seriously interested in this girl and have marriage intentions go to her. You are going to end up paying for her expenses to visit you on a tourist visa anyway. Why not go and see how she lives? Is she a pig at home? How is her family? What are her friends like? Does she hold down a job ok? What kind of job?
Go and see her Loopy. Be only a Loopy by name and not by nature:)))
my question is. could she visited the states on tourist visa??? or is there just only one and only one possibility fiancee.
to me it sounds very dodgy!!!! of course. but her story accompaning another girl doesn't make sense to me!!! I don't know what visa hse had!!!! both of them having fiancee visa sounds imposible for one guy to have two brides at once!!!
I have met her and her friend, they are very posh, not her mother yet!!! you don't want to know how much it cost to buy her every time boots when I visit, however on the other hand they have they have got lousy appartment, and just only three pieces of cutlery to share in between ....!!!!
jobs nothing special, just a waitress = > but she knows how to make a whirlpool in your wallet!!!
Loopy
First it is quite possible that she came to the States with a girlfriend on a tourist visa. The fiance visa is not the only way for them to come to the USA. I know a 36 year old women in New York who is here by invitation of a university. Regarding the tourist visa thing. It is notoriously difficult for a young, attractive, childless and unmarried woman to get a tourist visa to the USA. It has illegal immigrant written all over it. But it is not impossible.
Next. One of the things about women from FSU is they do tend to be classier than women in America and certainly England. So they might appear posh to you. As regards the boots - my girlfriend has a hat that cost about $80, a beautiful fur, claret colored fur hat. She only makes $450 a month before deductions!! The boots and hats are a status symbol there and men and women will go without to have them. Don't be fooled by that.
The fact that she makes a whirpool in your wallet is a mixed thing. Just exactly what are you doing with her when you are there? :)) If you are going out nightclubbing and restaurants every night it is to be expected. Personally we watch TV, talk, look at books and walk around the shops and town. We only went to a nightclub once. We also went to the theater once. That is because my lady is serious about getting a relationship going not painting the town red on my money. A younger woman in her late teens or early twenties is going to want to party. You have to ask yourself what you are looking for. Marriage or just a good time. Either is fine but if it is the latter then take lots of money and don't be surprised if you don't bring any back home. :)))
This blows me away and lends credibility to charges that "stupid westerners can't find women to get laid in their own countries so
they go to FSU to splurge on young women hoping they'll spread their legs for them with little or not intention to form a serious relationship.
Is that where you're at, Loopy?
Is it that difficult to define a woman's character as the not so ideal life mate when you visit her apartment it's in shambles and she only owns three pieces of cutlery?
Do us all a favor...don't go back to FSU. Invest your money wisely instead with a little extra to hire a nice looking hooker to polish your knob on a weekly basis.
toad
Doesn't that give you a hint?
"Hummm...maybe she stays so pretty and slim because she doesn't eat in between my visits.."
My first thought Loopy was High maintenance women (So I made a thread about it), then reading your next sentences I realised you haven't read one bit of Russian history, or studied their lifestyle at all. If you have, you haven't been following the rest of your class...
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however on the other hand they have they have got lousy appartment, and just only three pieces of cutlery to share in between ....!!!!
A: What did you expect?? A condoe with a pool and a butler???? Be realistic man!
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jobs nothing special, just a waitress
A: Again, what did you expect? Are you looking for someone that can work and be your sugarmummy?? Please! Personally she could be the garbagegirl, working in a kiosk or some other low-status work for my part, if I liked her, and she liked me I could not care less!!!
She could be a high maintenace woman as well, if so, get her out of your sight if you can't handle it!
But the housing and work has to do with ther aspects, and I just can't figure out what you actually are getting at by mentioning that... Does that make her a bad person? When it comes to buying boots, could it be that you, yourself, maybe unintended invited her to act that way? Could it be that she just wanted you to like her, and may be was overdoing it a little, and by that way seemed a little posh? Could it be that she felt your dissapointment over the house and her jobsituation, and wanted to impress you, but got it a little wrong??
I am just asking the questions, you are the one to think about the answers...
I didn't want to buy her expensive shoes to spread her legs!!!! I'm against it!!! I think love shouldn't cost a thing. and this is why I have got a dilema why she wants me to buy her such things when she is not making almost any money, and spending loads on luxury when I'm there, she does her nails done ($200) a visit .... every month etc. since december.
and when I leave she mourns that she has no money for basic living. once she said she spends 800 hrivnas a month, so I send her $300 for her living and she says a day after she had spent it at once shopping for loundry!!!
her perception is for me to spend money one her!!! shoes, boots, perfumes, etc. I don't understand it!!!
we don't go to nightclubs, juts once, most of the time talking about marriage, future. she says she will wait for me, but I need to show her that I can support her by finding myself a better paid job etc, to be able to support her in the future ..... all sorts of things like this.
she has deleted her profile from two sites already, but I keep discovering her on other websites ..... and it makes me depressed, how many people is actually in touch with her. do not know!!!
when I met her I didn't think she is so attractive, I thought a normal average girl, that's what I need, modest. however she has changed since I've been visiting her, demanding more and more money!!!
she says it's just only me she is touch with!!!! but she won't give me her mobile to have a look at her numbers. once I overheard her saying oh, hello my dear to answer a call. when I asked her why she answers the phone like this, she says it's a friend!!!!
If you think you're having trouble with her now and her expensive ways, what do you think she'll be like when you get her to a western culture? RUN NOW!!!!!!
Loopy,
You deserve everything she does to you.
You allow it to happen.
How old are you, mate? 12, 15?
Have you ever stopped to think how many opportunities to meet honest FSU women you have missed every single time you even think of your freeloading and gold digging ukranian girlfriend?
Is your self steem that low that you cannot think of yourself as anything other than a walking wallet?
The best advise you will ever get for free,and you have it on very good standing from these men--run little Simba,run as fast as you can! Run like a hurricane gale is at your back! Run like you are Carl Lewis on steroids.Run Forrest,run!!
He won't, trust me.
Loopy, keep going there, keep on sending her money, keep on believing whatever she tells you, and maybe keep on bonking her when you get there. $200 for nails? She's clever, such amount you - you, Loopy, not her! - will regard as normal where you live, so she's done some homework. Then again, with your nick and your posts you display some character treats she'll abuse whenever she wants, so, as said, keep on being in contact with her, she sounds perfect for you. Good luck!
I have gathered that she is a gold digger. this is why I'm here and asking for your opinion, whether this is happening to you as well. I'm not happy after what happened, how she made me to spend money on her ....... I feel like a fool, I couldn't sleep after what I have done. but I have learnt from this hopefully. toad, certainly there is something wrong with me. I always fall in for the wrong one with wrong attitude. squezing me to death.
I wonder whether I'll have more luck.
I have contacted the website manager asking them whether she is correspong with other men or not? obviously they have phoned her up, and she called me back saying that she made the profile just 'coze of me to find it. and now I'm told that I should be looking at other profiles instead. so, she has solved it by herself!!! I think.