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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > IZ Does Marina Live here in the states? Author Post ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/20/2005 12:43:50 AM   Marina is from EKaterinburg right? She lives in the states now? How often do you visit Her hometown? and are you two Married now? Marina must be a good women if you broke off all contact with everyone you were in Correspondence with before Meeting her. What were you taking by, her letters that really caught your eye or was it something else, You know like the first time you met or did she have you at the word hello? ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/20/2005 3:02:52 PM   Sometimes I ask Questions to fast:) I read a post that tells me what I asked :) izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/20/2005 7:21:17 PM   Man you ask the most smart questions!! Marina lives in Ekaterinburg. She had a former boyfirend from Chicago. I don't want to get started on him so I will not stray. He would bring her over, he had buckets of money. Millionaire. She got a tourist visa good for multiple entries for a year. She and her daughter then shuttled back and forth between Russia and the States for a year. 'Bout every 2 months. She turned her life upside down for this guy. It wasn't for the money by the way. Thereby hangs a story. She has been to Florida twice, Las Vegas, Hawaii, Cicago, New York and God knows where else. Also France, Italy I think Monaco and a few other places. We are not married yet. We pretty much both assume at this point we will marry. There are a few things to take care of but basically if all is well in July I will ask her to marry me formally and give her a ring. There has been a lot of water under the bridge to get to this point and it will be a about another lake of it before we finally tie the knot. I estimate at least, minimum, another 8 to 10 months. Your last question is the best one. Very much like Spirit I am a very spiritual person. I meditate and pray each morning and have done for the last 30 years. Nothing happens by chance for me and I have had many miracles happen in my life. Including my last marriage I might add. I had a lady before Marina but I had to end that, there were some aspects to that that disturbed me. Actually they are very instructional - they taught me a lot. I reacted by writing about 20 emails. Marina responded to me immediately the next day. However her email was completely different from all the others. She wrote me a letter, not a canned response. We had a whole thread about this once you should look it up. JMO and Shaggy got very involved with that subject. Anyway the letter told me both good and bad. She told me stuff that only a friend would reveal. She went straight to the top of my list. There were 2 others along with her then quickly only one and finally I dropped sweet Olga. I got a very strong feeling about Marina that she was special for me. Not a special person just special for me. I learned a long time ago to take notice of that inside feeling. So I continued. We got to know each other well. Then I went to visit. It turned out she had stumbled into me also. She is very, very beautiful as Jet or Toad could verify. Therefore she gets a lot of emails. She just deletes them. For some reason she liked mine and actually read it. Well she didn;t read it she liked my name - Stephen- and consequently looked up my profile. Then she read my letter. That is what did it. She felt drawn to me the same way I felt drawn to her. After I visited her I reflected on the situation and decided that it was not for me that I had made a mistake. There were quite a few assumptions I made and things I was not told. Then there were the cultural and language barriers. Misinterpretations and fouled up intentions. That was bad because I loved her and everybody told me to quit. But I couldn't so I persevered. I told her to shut up and listen to me. I then wrote a shitload of complex and informative emails. They were on everything from Insurance to retirement. From medical care to education. A ton of stuff. That helped tremendously. I go back in uly and unless something goes drastically wrong I will have a Russian fiance not a Russian girlfriend. That is it my fingers hurt. God you ask good questions! ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/20/2005 9:19:50 PM   Thank you I have always been a genuine person who has been around the block a couple of times. I am sorry if this sounds like I am going to trash American women, But I guess if I am going to stay real than it has to happen. In my Area there is way more Men than women, and believe me they know this and Loyal they are not. You could be the best guy and walking on him is more common than a cold up here in the north. I am so sick of having 2 year relationships and when the first sign of trouble comes along you bail?? Wonder why the divorce rate is so high and I know it is for the best alot of times, but what do these ladies think is going to happen in the next relationship? it's all peach's and cream. We have so many women that our head gamers that they are just as bad as scammers in my book. I am so sick of bitter women that have had a silver spoon Handed to them and don't know the meaning of Value. I vowed this next time I will look at another side of this world and find a true lady who cares and has worked hard and show Interest in what I do. I cant even Imagine a lady in any of our areas that has to wait for a un-heated bus in 50 below weather to travel to work. I cant even imagine her with out cell phone litle alone walking any where. I want a true gal and if this is what it takes then I could care a less what any American man or Women thinks. I have read posts from American Women on other sites and oh how they trash Russian Women who come here and there all Sluts and whores and there stealing there Men. Let me tell you something American Women you done took this North American Boy for granted one to many times. It's funny how she can call them sluts and whores when truth be told she has had more pricks in her Than a hospital carry's in needles. spirittraveller Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/21/2005 12:40:30 AM   Izi wrote something I think is very important. The communication with women of any culture is very educational. We as men are drawn to them, enchanted by them,and sometimes horsewhipped by them. But instead of tucking our heads under our broken little wings and bemoaning our womanless/wifeless existence,we proceed with just a little more knowledge,just a little more education--maybe caution! It is a learning process. I see every relationship as having a definable purpose. Good or bad,I take away another experience. And I am enriched as a man,and not bitter because of a broken relation. There is this key word involved--relate,and we mature in our relations with all people,men and women, bosses and children,animals and nature--with time, practice,trial and error. I realize,even with American women,there really is nothing wrong. However there is what is acceptable and non-acceptable about each person. It is your individual choice. I do have faith,I pray and meditate,and sometimes even burn a piece of sweetgrass while saying a prayer for all humanity. My life has been too blessed to be overcome by a lack of anything,be it money,women,or social standing. So I never am without anything I really need. It is the peace in yourself,not the piece in someone else. Be the image of yourself that you want to see. One more thing I want to add to Izi`s posting above that is very relevant-- learn to recognize miracles,small and large when they happen--hopefully you will find one good thing about each day of your life to attach yourself to. ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/21/2005 1:22:26 AM   I know Being Bitter only leaves the heart hard. I think we all have been there but most of us choose to let go and move on. I do not have time or maybe even the mental capacity to hold grudges with X'S once the grieving period is over I do let go. there is so much opportunity for all young-middle-older. It is a learning process that goes on until you take that last breath and then when your layed to rest the definable purpose I believe will be cleared up. Good post spirit. spirittraveller Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/21/2005 12:05:52 PM   What I really love about the quest is that never have I thought more or studied harder. I know there is a lot of fantasy involved in preconceived notions of FSU women. But I have never been this interested in understanding American women. Of course part of the allure is the mystery-- the call of the unknown,and it draws a sincere man in like the solitary horse to the herd. I think you will do good,OKM,because part of this search is really the search for ones self. The woman who is right for you may not be a goddess,but God willing she will be the female reflection of all you believe in,and all you love about life unclebuck Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/21/2005 12:28:43 PM   OKM your going to do fine. Listen to IZ and Spirit, they have the right idea. Look into yourself and grow! We all have had our bad exspearences so there is a lot of wisdom floating around here. Just remember that in your quest for love there maybe some trials and tribulations but let them help you to grow. ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/21/2005 1:20:08 PM   Thanks guys, I appreciate so many things in life. You are so right about the wisdom here,Unreal. I want to grow and share my life with somebody who cares about my Legacy, and in my Quest to become A better person I will learn to grow everyday. When we talk about the things we take for granted everyday, Now I take a step back and pause Just to thank my lucky stars I have A great life. Thanks Guys. Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/21/2005 5:36:32 PM   Spiritt. I really like what you wrote above. I am not a religious person and do not believe in any God. BUT my belief is “we came from the soil / sea and we return there” So I believe in a beautiful Lady called - Mother Nature. That aside, I agree with & very much like the following YOU wrote It is a learning process Acceptable and non-acceptable about each person It is the peace in you, not the piece in someone else. Learn to recognize miracles There is a lot of fantasy involved in preconceived notions of FSU women. Part of the allure is the mystery - the call of the unknown Part of this search is really the search for ones self. She will be the female reflection of all you believe in, and all you love about life izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/22/2005 12:36:57 AM   Couple of things There are different methods at work here. Toad was very methodical even he says perhaps too methodical. He educated himself thoroughly and went shopping. He knew exactly what he wanted and got as close as he could. He is happy. I didn't work that way. First I am not fussy, so long as she isn't repulsive and actually really loves me I don't care. I'm flexible. I also always did see kids as a positive not a negative. I do not criticise others but I don't think a huge age gap works. To be honest there is a mountain of evidence to prove me wrong on that one but it is a gut feeling more than anything else. Therefore to quickly end up with someone as beautiful as Marina is quite a surprise to me. She is a gorgeous, 5' 8" slender blonde with the most attractive grey eyes I have ever seen in my life. It is another example of me following my nose and getting led to something good. Once Marina quits the chewing tobacco she will be perfect. It is only fair. I have promised to stop sniffing glue and calm down on the crack. So it is only right. It is also quite a surprise to me that anyone thinks that I have anything useful to say. I am also a newbie, one trip to Ekaterinburg does not an expert make. Glad I have something useful to contribute (for a change). ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/22/2005 3:02:54 AM   LOL IZ I once Sniffed ANALEZE, WHAT A Shitty Feeling:) izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/22/2005 9:03:04 AM   One You know there really isn't anything that you have said or been through that gas not been echoed by this forum ad nauseum. We all feel the same about American women as you do. That stuff about them being in the minority and knowing it couldn't be more true. I have an English accent and am not too bad looking. I could find them if I chose but I choose not too. They are a pain in the butt. The whole point of this exercise is that we are in the minority and have the choice. It is wonderful. A woman of Marina's caliber would not give me a second glance here in the States. She would want a guy who earns a minimum of $75,000 a year and looks like Cary Grant. I am just an ordinary guy, nothing special. And the kicker is that she will stay loyal. They marry for love and once the decision is made they stick with it. It is true that we get the once over. If you are destitute and look like Rodney Dangerfield you are not going too far. Most of us are not though and that means we can have a CHOICE of a beautiful lady who will be faithful. It is like a dream come true. There are problems true but nothing compared to in the West. My ex wife and that Wicca crap, oh my God. The robes and alters and ceremonial daggers and all the rest of the paraphernalia. All Marina wants to do is have a picture of Jesus on the wall, pretty innocent if you ask me. I can live with that. ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 12:18:28 AM   Hello IZ, I am not Very tall 5'6 have a young face, I go out with the boy's and there girlfriends will say he's cute and then ask me to hook up with them.(not happening) After I had A simple Lower eye lid Surgery that went so bad It left me completly Blind for 10 straight Days, They scared 100% of my corneas off my eyes. This was 3 months ago and I still have problems and vision lose, I always had 20/20 vision now about 70% one eye about 50% other eye. Lights hurt my eyes and Scents of any kind leave them blood shot Right now I still have to wear sunglasses everyday. When I was rushed to the Hospital at 3 am after I ran out of the bottle of Illegal Liquid Cocaine they gave me, (oh not Mention it had been expired for 6 months) Blood was coming out of my eyes, The surgeon who did the surgery Meets me at the hospital and Starts trying to pull my contacts out (Big problem) Never wore contacts in my life, he goes gets another older doctor on staff and they walk away from me,but I can still here the older doctor tell him you need to call an optomoligist (spelled wrong) Right now. So a lady Optomoligist comes to the hospital and does some looking and tells me I need you in my office 8am Sunday moring this was, she told me those are the worse cornea scratch's she has ever seen. I deal with this everyday and never take out my anger towards anyone I search for that lady like all you happy guy's Have :) I feel proud to be here and to make good choices like you guy's. I could go on and on :) But I got to get cracking on my next topic:) Oh and my point about this story never feel down and out About yourself Never let anyone tell you your not good enough to find what your heart Deserves. ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 1:37:15 AM   They Stratched A 100% of my corneas off my eyes, Not scared lol THEY DID SCARE ME, Lol I cant believe I wrote scared for stratch it's close :) izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 7:09:09 AM   I'm confused do you mean scarred? And are you ok now? ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 10:18:40 AM   Still have eye problems, The sunlight makes my eyes roll, any kind of scents that I smell makes them blood shot. All kinds of fun stuff, That bottle they sent me home with thinned my corneas so bad that I might have to have corneal transplant Surgery. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 10:47:49 AM   You are a young guy is everything going to be Ok? This is so sad. I also have had bad experiences with doctors. With me I was a hair from being a paraplegic. Paralyzed from the neck down because of a stupid doctor. They truly are idiots and concerned only about the money. Gods in their own minds though. I will continue to take my own medical care into my own hands and that goes for attorneys too. I have good reason for everything I say. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 10:53:04 AM   I think you need to sue. I tried to but got nowhere. Unless the attorney smells big bucks they will not help you. It is a giant money game with your life as the stake. Self sufficiency rules I think. That is why it is so wonderful being able to find a woman from the FSU. You get to have a say in what is going on and not having to be subject to the randomness of what we have to put up with in America. ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 3:20:13 PM   I have Attroneys That are involved, Nice thing is there was no way out for the doctor involved and he told the optomoligist what must of happened. They Messed me up and The long term effects are sick. I here you about Doctors and this one is not getting away from what he did, I will not let that happen and if there insurance company wants to drag this all out They picked the wrong guy to let a jury decide who's right or wrong. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > IZ Does Marina Live here in the states?
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