Thanks for all the info, I have read a lot of good tips. I have not yet started my search for an FSU woman, and I was wondering how some of you got started.
Did you fill out profiles and wait for women to email you? What kind of info should and should not be in a good profile? What types of pictures did you post? Formal, informal, both? Professionally done? Is it a bad idea to have pictures with nice cars and/or a house in it?
When you contacted women on the site, how many did you email, and what % can you expect reponses from?
Any other info that would help the inital communication would be great.
FYI, I am a 30 yr old male from the midwest.
Thanks for the replies and keep the good forum going.
Won't hold it against you since I'm a Cubs fan. Welcome to the big top. Don't let these yahoos mislead you. Not all us midwestern boys are dumb!
My best advice, be natural, don't go over the top with pictures and material things, they don't really understand how we live. Even though they think they do. Most of their information is derived from hollywood. Some have a decent handle on our lifestyle, the honest ones will tell you they have no clue. Larissa is 43 years old and has never owned a car, so it doesn't really mean much to her now. She is taking driving lessons now. What you will see will open your eyes up a bit when you go. Be honest with them, one thing I have learned and seen it happen to many guys is these ladies have an uncanny knack for picking up bullshit from men. Get on a plane and go. You will hear two sides going alone or going to a social. I did not use the social route but I'm not going to knock it, it just wouldn't work for me. Be ready to make a financial committment, because you are going to,this isn't cheap by any means. Don't lead a girl on, if you are writing to a couple of them and you decide on one, write the other and tell her. Honesty is the best policy here. If it doesn't work the other will respect your honesty. DO NOT SEND MONEY! When you meet and you meet family and friends it doesn't hurt to send it if the committment is there on both parts. Still be aware. Most of us here are a pain in the ass, but we will help you with anything you need in your quest.
I won't Hold it against you also :) I am A Midwest boy also. 37
You are never to old to find love and respect, I am also just
Starting out.
You listen to the guys on Here and you will be miles ahead when you are ready.
Read as much as you can and Stay in this forum and Ask Questions and
Me and you will be ready for a life time of love.
The Tips you will get from this forum are Unmatched in my opinion.
to get started you should go to MY AD at your account. fill it in and make it published. if you don't put mark in 'publish my ad" box girls will not see it in men's gallery. you may put any kind of info in your ad. everything that you feel girl should know when she decides to contact you. usually girls are shy and exepct men to contact them first. so compose an introductory letter and send it to girls that you like.
some girls don't want to wait and they will contact you first. specify at your profile what kind of girl you are looking for to give them idea if they meet your requirements.
upload photos at My PHOTOS, make sure that they are published. we recommend to upload at least one portrait photo. you may upload pictures of yor house and car as well. it is ok, but it is not necessary . you will be able to attach up to 4 additional photos with every letter.
feel free to ask any questions at admin@fiance.com .
read forum, there are a lot of nice guys who would be happy to share their experiance.
You guys just starting out.... prepare for the time of your lives.
I'm a believer in Socials and Romance Tours. This method of writing works too.
But prepare for an immediate uplift in your self esteem as you learn that you do NOT have to put up with the CRAP American women seem so determined to dish out.
I've been at this about two years now and am finally having my gorgeous fiance come to the US to be with me. We have just finshed the fiance visa application procedure. But if it all falls apart (and I sure hope it doesn't) I'll be back.
Oh yeah - and you will quickly discover that some people will give you raised eyebrows when you tell them what you are doing. "Ehhem.... You're so desperate you have to find a MAIL ORDER BRIDE????" Those people are called idiots. And most lack the gut and determination to do what we are doing. Older single American women especially hate the idea, For obvious reasons.
But in this forum you will find the best group of guys to give advice and to lean on maybe if you ever need to, and some of us are even a bit witty (one of us - me - can't spell but most of the time I'm phonetic anyway). You won't find a better place to hang-out or better guys to do it with than those here.
cardsfan75
"I have not yet started my search for an FSU woman, and I was wondering how some of you got started."
2 approaches - going or writing. Each has it's pros and cons. There are different methods, be more specific and somebody will give you specific answers. Guaranteed. We have experts here in every type of approach.
"Did you fill out profiles and wait for women to email you?"
In my case yes and no. I started my first relationship with a beautiful girl who approached me. Now I am with someone I approached.
"What kind of info should and should not be in a good profile?"
There are certain things that only become apparent with experience. The profile develops so to speak. My own covers legalities, hopes, ambitions, children, moving, language and a ton of other stuff. I have had many women compliment me on it because it saves a ton of wasted time.
Simple example.
"Are you willing to move to the States because I am not going to live in Russia?" It might seem incredibly obvious but it isn't. Just as we have keyboard Romeos they have keyboard Juliets. Essentially time wasters. They want romance and will get it anyway they can. However the thought of REALLY moving from Russia and all the implications haven't even begun to sink in. You find out after you have lost your heart to them!
"What types of pictures did you post? Formal, informal, both? Professionally done? Is it a bad idea to have pictures with nice cars and/or a house in it?"
All of the above. I have one of each, 3 in total. No Mercedes, Harleys or mansions with a jacuzzi or helicopter pad. You will encourage the wrong attention.
"When you contacted women on the site, how many did you email"
Batches of 20.
"and what % can you expect reponses from?"
Extremely high. I have a response rate of about 75% or higher. Sometimes it takes a while to get the reply but that is another story. You should not settle down to the first lady that contacts you. Leave the door open until you feel that enough time has passed that anybody that was going to answer you has. Then if you have been able to narrow it down start the commitment process. That is another subject.
"Any other info that would help the inital communication would be great."
I'll send you my profile.
"FYI, I am a 30 yr old male from the midwest."
Be careful dude. You are a prime candidate. You are going to have women all over you. No matter how you approach this. Go, write no matter what you do you are going to be buried. Beautiful young women with no children from 18 up. You lucky dog. There are many problems associated with this. Scammers, immaturity, unwillingness to leave mummy and daddy, overly romantic, gold diggers, demands to go see them immediately, unkeepable promises. On and on. Read what people say here and try to be realistic.
never send money until a relationship is established (you both meet at least once- more than once preferrably)
BE HONEST!! Dont try and be who you arent, it will bite you in the ass. Most of these ladies have an unbelievable bull**** detector, and they dont forgive lies easily if at all
If you don't have a passport- get one, because if you think you can do this without going there your fooling yourself and wasting their time.
These tips are just for starters, once your ready to go theres a whole new set of guidlines for going abroad to the FSU
btw, I'm 37 and my sweetheart has been here with me a few months already =)
I still find it interesting to stop by here when I'm online, and I'll offer any advice when I can.
has anybody welcomed you here yet? If so I've missed it, just know you're more than welcome here to moderate this lot ;-)
Presuming you've replaced Olga who I hope has moved on to greener pastures - you're also on the Female side?
Cardsfan,
the percentage responding to you depends entirely on how & what you write, unless you look like Brad Pitt and send a pic of you next to your Ferrari. Don't go bragging with what you have, they will ask if interested, IF.
If they do in the second letter then the warning bells should go off, but in general trust your instincts, your gutfeel, it is a good barometer.
Having said that, don't fall in love with only a pic and some letters, but go there. Anything can happen then, just know it, but you will know when you should risk it. On this point - your name does not indicate you're a major player? ;-)