Send Flowers to Russia, Ukraine and Worldwide with Cyber-Florist.com Fiance.com: Beautiful Russian brides
Home  |  About  |  Forum  |  User Blogs  |  Login  |  Register

	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Need some advice here guys Author Post Snowwolf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 2:23:24 PM   OK, here is the scoop. I have been talking to my Natalia for about 5 months now. We just began talking on the phone this last month and everything is great. She speaks very little english so we have been using one of her friends to translate the 2 times we have talked on the phone for a long period. I do manage to try to call her and wish her a goodnight at least everyday as this is something she has asked me to do for her. She responds to my emails and not once have I gotten a form letter from her. She currently works full time and is unable to attend english classes, but she willing to find another job so that she may attend english classes so that over time we will be able to loose the translator. So in the long run she is going to save us money on that end, but for now I am going to have to pay the translator for her assistance even though it is her friend. She is supposed to sending me the figures tomorrow on how much that is going to cost me. I hope the friend equation is in there to hopefully keep the cost down. Before you ask, NO..I have not had the chance to visit her yet. I would go there tomorrow if I could and she wants me to come there as quick as I can. She even asked me if I could come there just for a day before I leave for Iraq, but with my upcoming deployment it is not going to be possible for some time. I have explained this to her and she understand that. Anyways, she wants to go to English class, but has to find another job that does not take up the time this one does, therefor less salary, therefore unable to care for herself and little girl as before. She is going to need some assistance to do this..I KNOW THE RULE!!...but how can I do this, and still be able to keep my money safe. I trust her, but I also have never met her in person, though we both want to very much. Be nice guys, I really need your help on this one. She is a great woman and I smile nonstop when I am the phone with her. She very much wants to learn english, and I could tell her no and just keep working at her current job, but then the translator in the long run in going to kill me.I am military so I am not made of money, but I make a good living. Thanks SnowWolf Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 2:50:05 PM   That, Snowone, may well be a rather curved ball she's throwing at you. So you're paying already, and will do in the future, if only for this translator? I'd hire a PI for starters, have her checked out by a local. Nothing wrong with, you're sort-of doing it here now also, but worth quite a bit. You must posess some relevant details about her (some of which you will NOT give this PI!!), and this PI will echo you similar one's, for you to compare. THAT will give you an indication if she's honest, and I hope I'm hunching wrong here.... Paying you will, but not to her I would not, not now. Get independant proof who she is, and take it from there. Dale E Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 2:52:16 PM   This is my own opinion but if I were you , I would have to say no to the English lesson until we have met each other. Not all stories end "Happily ever after". Some people relationships went great until they met each other. You could be talking about a lot of money thrown down the drain. If she would get upset and wants to end the relationship because you turned her down, you have done yourself a favor. I am not saying she is like this though. Dale E Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 2:54:56 PM   until "we" have met each other :o) Didn't know I was going with you. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 3:21:22 PM   Stew in your own lizard Sweetie, now the world knows..... ;-) Dale E Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 3:26:42 PM   :o) Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 5:03:48 PM   I get a very strong feel from your post, you want to do this. I disagree, with the Golden Rule "never send $$" How much are we talking about here. A couple of bottle of Top shelf. New pair of Levis etc etc. If you are prepared to invest, and full well know, you might loose it, then do it. What about all the people who bet on Horses or sports games. They KNOW there $$ is at risk the moment they hand it over. You are about to embark on a tour of duty in Iraq. You NEED a glow of hope and warmth to go with you, a future dream (that could well turn out to be a reality) far more likely to produce than a donkey running around a track. I say do it. Keep it to a minimum amount. Don't let it lead into other things until you have met in person. Good luck in Iraq. Peter izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 5:28:55 PM   Snow Go with your feelings about this. 5 months is a good length of time. I remember somewhere some person getting bitten well after that. It is very easy to say don't send money but I am sending money. It is true that I have met Marina and I know her situation but still you get to know someone writing and talking. I agree with Maxi. If you have a decent feeling about this experiment a little. If she is a con artist she will try to put a bigger bite on you for sure. Once the camels nose is under the tent flap so to speak. It will be the I need an operation or my dying granny or something. Then you will know for sure it is boloney. Meanwhile it is pennies. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 5:33:32 PM   Peter, for $5 I'll translate that to Snowwolf. Husky, the Kiwi tells you to sponsor this girl. That sponsorship means you pay ad infinitum, and when you eventually get there you either will get lucky or will find a bogus address with Igor answering the door. If you don't like the latter you hire a PI. You owe me Pete... Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 5:37:49 PM   Oh gosh, not the Limey is talking about pennies. For YOU yes, not for her, it is her income - if she's foul. Why don't you simply find out first Snow? THAT costs pennies, and will tell you all you need to know. May I remind you two expats that he's never set eyes on her? Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 5:41:44 PM   And so the vicious circle continues to revolve. Oh, it's only peanuts, and she sounds so sincere. Yeah, a professional will have to, and there's many a variation on this theme. Please realize that it all adds up at the other end, some make a darn good living out of it. The clever one's mind, and this - to me - sounds like one. Izi, what happened to "a genuine woman will never ask for money" ? Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 5:43:01 PM   TD Snow has communicated for 5 months. Unless he is a completer IDIOT, he will have a good gut feel on her, I know I would. He has NO choice in the matter (except forget about her). And as for hiring a PI, that field of occupation in Russia would be so corrupt; I would have more faith in a 3 legged horse in the Grand National!! So I don’t go along with the PI bit. Not a way to start any relationship in my Book. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 5:44:38 PM   Whoa, I forgot: a genuine woman will never ask you for money to pay a friend of hers? Come on guys, open your eyes - THAT is what is suspect here, not the English lessons per se. Changing a job to go to classes - tell me what kind of job would prevent that, if there is a REAL will? Snow, I'll put it to paper - she's bogus, move on! Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 5:51:40 PM   You're wrong Maxi, there's plenty of agencies who supply this kind of service, in fact it is a spin-off of this industry (which it is, or has become). She ASKS for money hence you're allowed to check - if you'd sent me an invoice, especially across borders, I'd have your ware inspected before I'd commence a fundstranfer. Same thing here, no difference. Blind trust across oceans is for the gullible only, and now guess what - that is what scammers prey on, solely! And did you know that the reverse also happens? Admittedly a lot less, but it happens - so for the same token the PI around your corner is also fake. $5 ma china... ;-) izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 5:54:37 PM   Hmmm Scammers in my experience put the bite in at the beginning. I know there are a lot of 'moles' out there but the odds of somebody going for broke after 9 months is a bit off. I could be completely wrong. You know TD it would be very easy for me to say about Marina, she is making it all up, it is a ruse to ghet me to supplement her income etc etc. After all "a genuine woman will never ask for money". However there has to be a little personal judgement come in here. I am not Snowwolf, I have not spoken to this girl. Maybe she is on the level. Have you done an internet scan for her Snow? Did you look on the blacklists? I must say that upon reflection maybe she should try to find another way. If she really cares she will figure it out. Just be careful no matter what you do not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 5:55:26 PM   Sorry 5 months wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 6:09:52 PM   TD, well said. I was reading through this thread and was thinking the exact same things. Maxirat is so flat out wrong and superficial in his assessment. The money is the least you're going to lose. I will summarize it for you by taking the liberty to copy from above: "That sponsorship means you pay ad infinitum" "pennies. For YOU yes, not for her, it is her income" "a genuine woman will never ask for money" This last statement, make it a rule for your own good would you? If you two are meant to be together, she will find ways to improve her English without asking you to pay for it ans she will be patient. For God's sake you haven't met her, take it easy, she doesn't need a call every night before she goes to bed, assuming she's genuine what is next? flowers every other day? These frequent calls that require translator are so suspicious. Some women are getting more and more sophisticated don't they? You can verify her for your comfort, but I would say wait until you see her before you begin what it could potentially be a sponsorship. Your meeting with her will answer all questions. P.S. I liked the analogy about dollars and horses::)) as well as the glow of hope that is needed in the war and the donkey running around the track. I'm trying to imagine Snowwolf doing all this in the same time:)) very amusing, thank you Maxirat. wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 6:11:51 PM   Izi, scammers are getting better and better, that's they're job. This is a multimillion dollar sucker industry we're talking about. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 6:19:48 PM   Yoo Wazzup, reading Snow's first post here triggered just about all alarms, but also he lets shine through he's willing and almost has started (if not done already). Snow, you seem to like her a LOT, not so? Now assume she tells you (for whatever reason) she cannot write/speak/chat to you daily but only bi-weekly. You'll drop her then? No ways, so she will not drop you either if you honestly tell her WHY you will not cough up the funds. Honesty lasts longest, and IF she drops you... you know you were right. But I hunched you're too eager, maybe overeager, and that's why I suggested to have her checked out. Either or, your choice. Signing off.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/23/2005 6:22:53 PM   No Izzzzi, you've met her, seen her hence can really judge, a thing Snow cannot. HUGE diff! Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Need some advice here guys
	Pages: 1 2 3 4