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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Matters of Money Author Post salsarhythms Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/28/2005 5:21:46 AM   A question for all of you in the forum in regards to Russian women’s view on spending money. Is it true that Russian women expect you to spend your money lavishly when you come to visit and court them and will be offended otherwise if you hesitate because you might see certain expenditures as impractical. I read an e-book by Elena Petrova that said as much. The reason I ask is because I have met a girl through this site that wishes me to visit her within the next two months. I had planned on late August or September since the summer time seems to be very tourisity and expensive time to visit. Waiting until then would decrease the cost of the flight and hotel by as much as 30%. Money I would rather spend when we are together. I have been in communication with this girl for about two months by phone and email and feel very good about her. I don’t want to be unromantic about this, but at the same time I don’t want to be foolish with how I spend my money. Any thoughts from either sex would be appreciated. Thanks. Ditto Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/28/2005 9:07:12 AM   If she is focused on how you spend your money on her, you have the wrong lady. It would be easier to find yourself a western wife. On the other hand, she'll be disappointed if you don't spend any money on her. Just remember that the spending habits you show there are the basis for her expectations of your spending habits here. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/28/2005 9:18:20 AM   I never had that problem. We did things nothing extravagant and we both enjoyed each other immensely. The women are also looking for men who are responsible with their money. At least that is the way mine is with me. Yes she likes to be a little spoiled, but she also said she doesn't want to put me in the poor house. There are many ways to spoil these girls and attention and respect works by far more with mine than anything I could buy her. IceChaos Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/28/2005 9:45:55 AM   I think that this is an important issue. I didn’t do a good job of explaining my financial situation to my fiancé because when I met her last week she kept asking me if the outfit I bought her was expensive for me. I had to explain my situation to her in more detail and it seemed to clear up that issue for her. She was very restrained with the money that I gave her. On the other hand I spoiled her a bit, but then again if I was dating someone here in the states I would be spending money on her as well. I will say that if she asks you about something you both might want like food and you say no she may really want you to buy her something to eat and you should press her on the point. I can only speak for myself but I had to provide all of the financing for meeting my fiancé thereby putting her in a weak position. It was a delicate issue but I tried making sure that she knew that my money was her money and that I expected no favors. I think that it is far too easy for them to feel like we are trying to buy them. Ice GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/28/2005 4:55:40 PM   Salsa, IT IS YOUR MONEY..!!! Do with it whatever the hell you want, mate..:) You do not need any woman's permission or agreement. And certainly you do not need or should not have to suffer any woman trying to waste it for you. Keep in mind your lady friend has done absolutely NOTHING to earn it and you should not have to make any excuses for whatever way you think is the most prudent plan on how to spend it and enjoy it. Use common sense, stay away from extravagant expenses, but budget your expenses and plan a schedule of activities for each day you'll be over there. Without a doubt, you will want to or have to change some parts of the initial plan, but overall it will give you a clear sense of what you're going to spend money on, how much and how often. Doing this will also let you know approximately how often you will have to exchange money from your ATM card. I'd not advice you to carry around a shitload of cash with you everywhere you go. Exchange as much as you need for 2-3 days based on what you have planned, then hit the atm machine again. Your lady should help you prepare that schedule, negotiate the best prices whenever possible and let you know in advance what is the most 'effective' (not cheapest) way to get everything you want. When I visited Lena, our prearranged schedule went almost without a hitch. We budgeted everything together weeks in advance. She was able to purchase the six train tickets we'd needed in advance, negotiated a taxi ride from Tyumen to Tobolsk, made reservations at the fancy restaurant I wanted to take her for March 8 dinner, another dinner with her mother and a bunch of other things that I would have had a very difficult time or paid someone else to arrange. Do not hesitate to let your lady know that you want to be prudent with the money you will be spending. If your lady wants to be ultra conservative and criticizes you for being extravagant, remind her of the favorable currency/income exchange and ask her to accept that these luxuries you insist on indulging for both of you are things you cannot do often at home. toad jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/28/2005 5:21:14 PM   I have learned that it is quite a normal question in Ukraine for them to ask eachother how much money do you earn. It was asked to me at Oksana`s mother`s dinner table to me and also from another young lady i dated by her aunt. We in the west feel uncomfortable with a question like that . At least i do. But they do not realize a person can be offended by such a question because they just dont know our customs . Nadya from our site here confirmed this to me when i asked her about this type of question when i thought maybe they were just sizing me up whether i was a financial catch. If they ask , dont worry. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/28/2005 10:37:21 PM   Jmoluv, It maybe common for some, but neither Lena nor any of her immediate family members ever asked such blatant question todate. And for an 'aunt' to ask it, is in my never humble opinion, completely inappropriate and not a good sign. Although it never happened when I was there, I went prepared to dish out specific or non-specific answers based on the source. "...I do not discuss my income with people who do not depend on it..." "...I only discuss my income with my wife or future wife...and she better never discuss it with anyone I do not approve, or else there will be serious problems..." Lena and I are already mapping out how to take care of the finances affecting our new family, as well as future and ongoing needs for our immediate families in Argentina and Russia. She is a tigress when it comes to protecting our privacy. Lena and her mother are not little shy mice when it comes to asking sharp, blatant and upfront 'on your face' questions...but most of them were directed towards my work and business in general, my view of family life, children upraising health and education. Very little was ever mentioned about money. They were more concerned to find out details of my work and if it would cause me to do extensive travel or allow me to come home every night. Being in complete agreement with their ideals of family lifestyle is one big reason for me to believe this is going to work for us despite the age difference. toad nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/29/2005 10:26:19 AM   I have to agree a bit with Toads post. The issue of money was never really a topic with Larissa and I. When I met her the very first time, I just had to ask her why she never inquired about my income? She said, well I've seen your home and where I will live, I know what you do for a living, but until I live there I will not understand the cost of living or how you save your money and what you do with it. She is far more concerned with my love, attention and affection for her and my fidelity. She knows I can provide and is not looking for a meal ticket. You can make 100,000+ plus a year and have zero net worth. I've used a conservative investment approach and have made provisions so when Larissa does come here she won't have to worry about being thrown into the working world. There will be more difficult issues for her adjustment than worrying about her income. She wants to change her profession when she arrives, I can see what she does now and has done for the last 22 years is killing her emotionally. I would want to change my career also. I think any new guy here should consider the long term investment in a woman from the FSU, not just the costs of trips and visiting them. Larissa knows some things, but many details I have not given to her and will not until she arrives and says I do. Then and only then will I open up and disclose to her everything she needs to know. Sometimes too much information can be confusing and overwhelming considering the fact they have very little knowledge of the workings of our economic society. When you really get to know your lady, you will know where their heads are at financially. There are some really wonderful women over there. Ones that will not take advantage of a persons economic status, because coming to a lifestyle here is beyond anything they can imagine and they love and respect the fact that you have found love with them and chosen them to give them this opportunity for a good life, first with love and second the financial opportunities this great country offers us each and every day. Until some of you guys go over there you will not understand how we are blessed here in the states. Later Mike nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/29/2005 10:29:00 AM   I wish I would leave the dumbass pills alone on Sunday mornings!!! GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/29/2005 10:59:50 AM   echo echo echo..:)) ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/29/2005 11:36:49 AM   I like what you wrote Nas and Think it is important to teach each other the Values of a deep love. And Hey once is good enough on the Post :) If I had a dollar for every Dumbass pill I have Taking I'd be a smartass about now :) Dale E Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/29/2005 12:26:44 PM   You would only be a rich dumbass! nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/29/2005 4:32:43 PM   Hell if I had a dollar for every dumb ass pill I've taken Bill Gates would be a pauper compared to me! Dale being a rich dumbass is nothing unique, just look at the NBA. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/29/2005 5:00:09 PM   Bling-bling..!! ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/29/2005 5:23:14 PM   yup Kiska Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/19/2005 5:15:32 PM   Salsa!!! I am russian. A couple of weaks ago i met a french guy. He was very nice to me. i saw that he was in love, but i was shocked!!!! with his meanness. He just walked after me. he didn't court, he just send me a lot of sms begging to meet. He was following me everywhere. He pretended to be very poor, without any money, you know. And anywhere he invited me to go, i paid for myself. But then i realised that he lived a very rich family. You know money is not that important for me. We know that foreigners are used not paying for girls. But he was in Russia and he continued telling me about our future happinness. I mean if you love a woman you shouldn't be mean, you should pay attention, bringing flowers, e.g., but also you shouldn't spend your money lavishly. Nevertheless, i think that the matter of money should have been made hints about. Still we live in different cultures. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/19/2005 5:31:13 PM   Kiska, There is a saying, that bears truth, and it is said that the more money a person has then the meaner he becomes. Has he ever been to Russia? It sounds like that you travelled to France rather than him to Russia, perhaps he is naive and doesn't appreciate cultural differences, either that or he is simply arrogant or stupid or both. Kiska Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/20/2005 6:19:31 AM   Martin, May be that sounds strange but he has been living here, in Saint-Petersburg for 6 months. He is studying russian here. Actually i have always thought that men should be more generous for their beloved. May be i am too conservative. But for me it's too difficult to get used to such kind of things. But now i share your opinion about the saying. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/20/2005 7:21:51 AM   Kiska, Gernerous for beloved is one thing but when one hardly knows a person is something different. As you say, he was over the top devouring his love etc. for you, well, as you say, something as simple as a bunch of flowers might have been nice and go a little way to show his affections. The man is either full of shit, just after sex, or a complete idiot. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/20/2005 7:55:51 AM   I'd bet its the middle choice. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Matters of Money
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