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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > 18-25 Author Post Sabastian Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/30/2005 1:57:27 PM   Greetings to all of you, as this is my first post. My question is for those of you who have dated the young crowd. Why do 18-25 year olds want to leave FSU? I am trying to figure out what would make someone so young make such a commitment that implies leaving everyone she knows for what is the most part a permanent basis. Even more to the point, are they mature enough to realize how big a change moving from one country and culture to another will be? I’ve heard that it is for the chance of a better life. Do FSU girls realize that even in America most have 30 year mortgages and full time jobs? So again, I am asking those with experience to share some of their knowledge of those they have encountered along the way. What exactly are these girls looking for past the profiles. Why did they list themselves at an agency in the first place. I am looking for someone who is different from the typical American girl. Not someone, to be blunt, has hit rock bottom, is damaged goods, or is looking for a “way out.” I have read posts that state times in FSU are hard, there are not enough men, or the men there are lazy or drink a lot. I find it hard for these “statistics / rumors” to be entirely true. What have you heard from the girls you all have met? I know people have differing reasons, I am not looking for just one answer to these questions. Sabastian , 25 yrs. cardsfan75 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/30/2005 2:12:59 PM   I would be interested to hear an answer to this as well. I have thought this strange also. wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/30/2005 3:24:53 PM   ebastian, you ask very good questions. Here is my take on this: I am married to a currently 22-year old Ukrainian. My age is currently one month short of turning 38. Our age difference is 15.5 years. She was 19 when I first met her and 20 when we got married. She is the only child in her family. Her father and mother are still married and happily so from what I experienced and what she told me. Her family is neither poor nor rich for the standards of Ukraine. Both her parents work hard to make a living. She had English classes since the age of seven or eight, which enabled her to speak English very well at the time we met (don't think she was planning on our meeting when she was seven:). She had piano lessons, gymnastics, swimming at around the same age. She had a personal computer at home with Internet. She had two years in college completed in civil engineering at the time she moved to the states with me. She received unsolicited mail inviting her to sign up and post her profile. She did it for fun (at the age of 18-19 you do many things for fun). Her profile was distributed around to various sites (without her consent necessarily). Somehow it ended up on fiance.com the summer of 2002 (at the time it was called www.dating-ru.com). I contacted her and the rest is history. Although she had no travel experience, my wife was surprisingly knowledgeable about the world and especially the U.S.A. She knew a lot about life in the West through watching movies and through her most favorite activity that is reading books. She can literally read a 300-page book in a matter of a few days, which is something surprising to me because I am not a book reader by any means. Books, TV and movies are windows to the world for these people and most recently Internet has added an additional channel to receiving hands-on, real time information. Don't fool yourself, many FSU women will susrprise you with their intelligence and knwowledge and most importantly their willingness and ability to absorb new information. Russia sports one of the most intelligent and educated group of women and men in the world. Also, don't fool yourself to think that FSU women believe money is walking on Main Street U.S.A. They are looking for confident, hard-working, intelligent, well-rounded men. This is generally how an FSU woman would describe what they call "real man". They are different than American women in the sense that they're not emancipated not because they lack self-confidence but because they value the difference of a man's role and a woman's role in the marriage and family (which is the way God created the world). For the FSU woman, the man is the head of the house and is expected to act as the head of the house. She will stand by her man and will confidently provide her input and opinion, she will ask questions and show interest about everything that is of concern to him. She will consult, but at the end, it is the man who will take the decision in key matters. She will offer to work and contribute to her family by all means available to her. She will appreciate a man who can take care of himself and a family and has the sterngth not only of physical strength but also the strength of character to provide the foundation for a strong family. My wife is incredibly mature for her age. She has many questions about things she doesn't know. If your're bored answering questions that are trivial to you, then marry an older woman sho has been around and knows more. I enjoy showing to her new things and helping her shape her personality, so together we can do the same with our kids. A better life is the dream of many people in FSU, but only a minority of men and women are looking forward to moving to another country. Maybe there's a million or so women that have either married to a foreigner or are actively looking to marry or live overseas, but consider the whole FSU is almost the size of America in population. How many Americans live and work overseas? answer: very many, I am a living example. An FSU woman will look for attention and love and for the type of man who can be a good father. If you love her and you show it to her every day, she will stand next to you during ups and downs. She will know when and how to compromise and when to jump in and veto decisions and situations when warrantied. If you like good food, she will likely know how to satisfy that apsect of yours as well and she will make every effort to learn what you like and provide it if she can. Saying all this from my personal experience. I have heard and read just like you about exceptions, materialistic women who have a plan. My wife actively reads a few women's forums in Russian and she's told me women are asking the very same questions about western men. Many women feel betrayed after they discover they were used by their American husband who lied to them, he had financial problems, forces them to work before they even had a chance to get used to their new country (sometimes work as dancers for example). Think about it, you can find pretty much everything about them if you wish so. Their only source of information is you and if you're a good actor and liar (not you am talking in general), they can fall in the trap. There are of course women who go to these forums and ask questions about how many years after the marriage they can get a green card, what are the immigration laws, how much money they can make in a divorce, etc. I perosnally know of a woman who married an American, cheated on him with Russian men living in the states and the guy had to settle on an agreement to support her permanent residence in exchange for a divorce with little expense for him. The bottom line is there is good and bad. In my opinion, there is much more good than bad and is easy to spot. Begin the process, get to know women, get advice from others wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/30/2005 3:31:52 PM   , do not give money if asked under any circumstances especially before you meet a woman. Above all use your judgement, enjoy it, it can be a lot of fun, an adventure. The women that you will meet are adventurous enough to be willing to move to another country for the right man. Good luck!!! wmferg Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/30/2005 4:05:59 PM   Excellent post WT jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/30/2005 8:23:48 PM   I sgree also - great post trav. My Moldovan lady is quite the same - I have the advanced degrees and formal education -but I would be a fool to ever underestimate her intelligence. My only problem - the only thing standing between me and blissfull happiness is Mommy however. If her father were still alive the stroy would be different - and perhaps more like yours. russian_alenka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/30/2005 11:51:57 PM   I'm (& we all) very happy for you WTRAV & I'm ready to sign up every your word here. Sebastian, the day before I wanted to start the theme about " young lady or woman of experience?" (it's very close), but you were the first. I don't know what the other think of it, I just can tall about me. I'm young, but I always feel that I'd like my Man was older than me,but in reasonable limit about 5-15 years. I was not interested in boys of my age. I'd like he share his life experience & live with me I can share my youth, pure & innocence with him. It doesn't mean that in his age he's suppose to be well-off--- not at all---, I just feel more mature than the girls of my age & wanted my Man was the same level as I am, because I was always oriented toward family & mature men feel the same by their age. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/31/2005 10:03:20 AM   Russian Alenka - that, being young, you consider a guy fifteen years older than you to be within a "reasonable limit", says everything right there. I don't know HOW young you are - I have not always kept up with the forum as of late, but if you are, say... 25 and consider a man of 40 to be reasonable you differenciate yourself from wesstern women - here it would be very unusual for an age difference like that to be acceptable. If you don't mind me asking - how old are you? russian_alenka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/31/2005 2:13:35 PM   I'm 22 & i SAID FROM 5 TO 15. i DON'T CONSIDER 15 AS NORMAL. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/31/2005 2:17:08 PM   Get away from the kid, Jet...:))...you're ABnormal, lol toad wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/31/2005 2:35:35 PM   jet, most good deals come in a package of two. You never know it may even be better that way:) It's interesting that young men are getting into this. I was watching a program on TV news in Greek language during the weekend. They were talking much about Eastern European women immigrants getting married especially to young men (ie. FSU, Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, etc.). They had snap shots asking young people on the street what they think about this. The response of women was unilaterally the same: "it's very bad for women (ie. Greek women:)", "they're taking our men", "and what are we supposed to do?" he-he-he. Men on the other hand were more laid back, enjoying the attention. Even those who pretended they didn’t like the situation (because the girlfriend was hanging in the background) had a shit grin all over the face. wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/31/2005 2:36:20 PM   You're all abnormal dudes, what is the news??::)) ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/31/2005 4:04:51 PM   From 5 to 15 thats way wrong:) at that age there just babies ALENKA, Go for older men (LOL) russian_alenka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/31/2005 4:39:11 PM   You, guys, is absolutelly mixed. And you make me mixed. I say for the last time the difference between our ages should be from 5 to 15 years. Hi my daddy-friend, toad... ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/31/2005 5:16:57 PM   :) Alenka I was Just kidding :) I understand you well. Age means Nothing to me as long as love is involved. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2005 3:35:42 PM   OKM, ...just kidding.. , ..understand you.. , ..as long as love... Nope, you don't understand her a bit, and you weren't kidding either. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2005 5:16:35 PM   LOL... Come to Papa, Alenka...I'll protect you from the big bad Jet-wolf..;) toad ONEKINDMAN Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2005 5:59:09 AM   OH OKAY iperedruk Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2005 11:07:01 AM   So Alenka is your profile up on this site???? russian_alenka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2005 12:12:19 PM   Jperedruk, I'm still thinking of it. I don't belive in aquaintance in internet & don't know is it worth while this? Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > 18-25
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