for all those who told me a trip to russia first is a must .....ok you were right .(toad)
new zealand immagration forced this step upon us .
once in feb and off again on the 27 of this month .
her visa is nearly done from new zealand and all is good .
haveing spent some time over there ,moscow,st petersburg and this time lake baikal i have found out a lot and made some good friends and some possible bussiness options .
cant help thinking ,we have just made it in time though !!!
tonight the offshore online dateing question is being debated on russian state tv and bassed on conversations i have had there and online i think the writeing is on the wall .
the coverage this topic and sentiment being generated is not on the whole possitive .
i never ever thought it would be so hard or so damned expensive ,but dont regret any of it for a moment .
I am sorry I don't understand this post. From what I have seen the east west marriage thing is expanding. It isn't in any danger of stopping. I think that all parties are becoming more knowledgable but as for stopping extremely inlikely.
If for no other reason it is economically driven. That scenario of women marrying outside their country to improve themselves and give their kids a fighting chance is as old as civilization. Therefore a few TV programs do not a movement make. I think you have completely misread the situation.
I get more emails from moe women everday. Zero evidence of it drying up.
Good luck with your visa.
Izi
Deep,
In other words, after almost 1.5 decades (15 years) of the best russian women voluntarily leaving the country to live better lives with western men in better conditions all the russian men controlled state TV is doing is "...initiating a debate?????"
toad ,
all the russian men controlled state TV ,true so true
its not a good sign when they and the media take a more active interest in what we are doing ,and in where there brightest and beautiful are heading in ever increasing numbers .
easy way i can think of pissing off several million males is to take there women ,or to be reported to be .(there choice also)
as a voteing issue (in russia ) i can see this issue eventually being a pawn in a political arena (a few years time say)
the statement made last night on russian tv was over the top ,he says all russian women marring forigners should be considered prostitutes !!! ,heavy stuff from a respected government figure .
the problem i find is any negitive media in russia or here in new zealand makes people who know what your doing ,say "did you see that program "? are you sure she is not a scam artist ,it wont last etc
my partener also gets the same thing .
we both now go ,shit tv program on immagration ,get ready for the fall out .
its to be expected yes ,but you still cringe at some of these programs knowing family and friends are watching it .
izi, its the expantion that is causeing this subject to receive so much coverage ,4 major shows in prime time in past 6 months verses none in the previous 6 months ! thats russia .here in my country at least the same amount or more and a new task force initated just last week for extra checks of immagrants -a result of pressure from the public .
The so called 'public' being the local feminist women organizations who see their monopoly of control over their local men slip away through their fingers when men like us simply say NO MORE and would rather take our chances with a foreigner than put up with what they offer.
Maybe it is true what you say but I have my exerience to fall back on and I don't see it I am afraid. I do not doubt you I just don't see it myself. Time will tell
Just remember-when Putin was cried to by the widows of the sunken Russian sub,be bitched to his advisors and lamented being so put-upon by "2 prostitutes" as he called them. He also kicked TV ownership ( Boris Berezovsky) out of the country so he could practice media control.It was no moral dilemna that he had been given whores either. In a country where men are expected to have a couple of mistresses,it is not surprising that there is a critical backlash and jealousy of well-intentioned men.