How do you rate the sense of humour of your lady? Westerners sometimes allege that Russians have no sense of humour, others say that its a bit dry and an acquired taste - after which it strangely grows on you. Personally I think it reminds me a little of a local beer ad: "Somewhat dry, somewhat bitter, never never sweet..".
I enjoy their ability to have a laugh at themselves. Two examples from Tanya (presented while discussing air travel without any intent to be funny:)
"The TU-154 is the fastest airliner in service in the world." After sensing my disbelief she quickly added: "It has to be, it has no functioning toilets"
Another one: "The TU-154 is the quietest airliner inside. It is so cramped that your knees block your ears when seated."
My understanding is rather limited due to the language barrier, but what I and my fiancee' have been able to share is definitely considered dry (read sarcastic).
A man walks into a doctor's room with a toad grown to his head.
The doc asked amazed: Please tell me how this happened?
The toad said: It started with a wart on my bum...
If you tell a joke in Russia and you laugh yourself, you've spoiled the joke.
Lena admitted being furious at me for days last year when I explained how seriously I consider the need for a healthy or sick sense of humor.
"I learnt when I was a young boy that to live to be 100 years old we must laugh at least 100 times per day. So I hope you can laugh at yourself...because I probably will."
If you believe in humor and the healthy therapeutic effecs if has on the human mind and body, I strongly suggest you spend enough time to understand this huge cultural difference between east and west first before you off like a stand up comedian who makes fun of the first two rows of the attending audience.
It was one of those growing pains between Lena and I, but it did not take long to overcome.
Wikipedia: Russian humour gains much of its wit from the great flexibility and richness of the Russian language, allowing for plays on words and unexpected associations...
My understanding is that Russian humour is subtle and doesn't always translate well into English. Apparently the language is highly inflected and richly nuanced.
Two less subtle ones:
A phone rings at KGB headquarters:
"Hello?"
"Hello, is this the KGB?"
"Yes. What do you want?"
"I`m calling to report my neighbor Yankel Rabinovich as an enemy of the State. He is hiding undeclared diamonds in his fire wood."
"This will be noted."
The next day, the KGB visit Rabinovich`s house. They search the shed where the fire wood is kept, break every piece of wood there, but find no diamonds. They swear at Yankel Rabinovich and leave.
The phone then rings at Rabinovich`s house.
"Hello, Yankel! Did the KGB come?"
"Yes."
"Did they chop up your firewood?"
"Yes, they did."
"Okay, now it`s your turn to call. I need to have my vegetable patch plowed."
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A British, Frenchman and Russian are viewing a painting of Adam and Eve frolicking in the Garden of Eden:
"Look at their reserve, their calm," muses the Brit. "They must be British."
"Nonsense," the Frenchman disagrees. "They`re naked, and so beautiful. Clearly, they are French."
"No way! They have no clothes and no shelter," the Russian points out, "They have only an apple to eat, and they are being told they live in a paradise. Obviously, they are Russian."
I am no expert,but I have lived around a few people who had personality disorders.Multiple personality is different then schizoid. Schizoids go all the way. I knew a man-preacher,stock trader. He had terrible tragedy in his family,and split in personality. He was eventually sent to a mental hopsital,and when he came out,he had 3 distinct personalities. Each had a different voice and demeanor,different clothes. He had a blue lock,and a pink lock for his door. Whenever SHE kicked him out,she left the pink lock on the door,and sometimes I would see him sitting at the busstop-in his underwear and disconsolate. WHen his was the dominant personality,he would lock her out. It was chilling to listen to him. It raised the hairs on my neck,and made my skin crawl. It was very scary to listen to. One of the personalities was apparently the cruel personification of his mental ward nurse. She had a screeching voice and would yell "names,names,give me names!" Then I would hear his mild,normal voice,saying " Now I know,nurse,that I have been bad,but I will get better".Then she would repeat herself. Much repetition. Often I seen him beat up because of one of these inner "bitches". Schizoids develop 3 or more personalities. Even a young child may have multiple personalities-one which comes out as an imaginary friend,or a fantasy/ reality of themselves ( redrum,redrum). People are usually not described as bipolar anymore. It is more related to manic depression,where a person has peaking manic highs,and then critical, crashing lows. A happy go lucky drunk is often the "life of the party" when in reality,he is experiencing a manic high from his drunken pleasure receptors. My multiple ex-girlfriend was very very sexy,and even named this side of her personality Tasha. Tasha was exactly the opposite of Laurie-who was a *&%&@@^&%# cuckoo-cuckoo! A lot of bonafide ( not wannabes ) street people are affected by schizophrenia. I have met 3 who were all Vietnam vets. Of the 3,2 were on lithium. The one guy would sweat and rage with his eyes closed. He screamed unintelligible words. When he was on the lithium,you could hear him say things like "shoot the S.O.B.". I heard him playing " Oh Suzannah" on a child`s toy piano,and when I peeked inside of his door,he had a 16 inch rat standing in front of him in rapt attention-little rat paws hanging like a prairie dog. Another who is famous in the Seattle /Tacoma area wears no shoes--all year long. The 3rd was uncontrollably violent ( basically psychopathic ) and was eventually given a lobotomy for his Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome with homicidal tendencies. They are all sad people,and I tell myself,but for the grace of god go you or I. It can happen to anybody. And it is life-shattering to anybody who lives around it. It used to be a joke- "Sybil" and "The 3 faces of Eve",but it is no joke. Not only do alcoholics get it, it is also a byproduct of methamphetamine addiction. You love someone who has Multi-personalities,you better have a very thick skin,and be able to shrug off the nastiness. Most of them forget saying the terrible things,and will revert to the kinder personality to apologize. I know Tasha loved me,but Laurie was a hellhound. I always wished I could kill the Laurie personality,because I loved Tasha-- even now.
Yes,1) don't try to sqeeze laughter from a Russian by an American joke. You'd faster be considered an idiot telling an absolute straight, childish and old joke your listener has heard a hundred years ago. 2) Better not try to get the essense of the Russian humour. It is really very subtle based on the many intertextual ties with literature, cinema, politics and so on. In most cases a good joke translated into English will mean nothing to an American or a Brit. What you all quoted are BAD, ANCIENT, CHILDISH jokes. This has nothing to do with what the Russians are used to laugh at. A Russian will NEVER EVER laugh at a stand up comedy.
I pretty much like good examples of Amrican long jokes on the computer topics, sex questions and so on. I don't have an example right now but I am sure you all enjoyed reading such jokes like "How many .... are needed to change a bulb."
Still I have a small suspicion that such jokes are written by some 5-10 Russian immigrants.:-)
Spirit
I think you are in the wrong thread but that is bloody interesting. Marina displayed some of that right down to the one that apologized. Very interesting.
Regarding Russians never laughing at stand up comedians.
Nope - wrong.
I watched many, many stand up comedians on TV and the crowd was falling about with laughter. Seemed to be very big on slapstick and political, intelligent humor. I couldn't understand everything because Marina was translating but I liked it anyway.
Ah, I understand what you mean. It is a bit different for an American stand up comedy, even people who take part in such shows are called "humorists" not "cemediants".
Pretty popular thing in Russia, jokes are far from being straight but even with this most young intelligent people dislike netertainment like this.
Boy would The Three stooges fuck up the Russian Mind!God where would I be without Moe,Larry and Curly, I am such a fan I've got all 93 episodes with curly on DVD that I converted from hours of coming home and catching a hour of the Stooges on TCM. Also Benny Hill! What he could do to loosen up the Iron curtain!Hell anyway, when I was there the only one's I saw laughing were the women, at least they have a sense of humor. I have to concurr with Ditto, Larissa's humor is dry and dipped in sarcasm, which I personally like. And to say Russians like intelligent humor, Well step up and listen to George Carlin Felice, I don't think you will find a more cerebral comedian(humorist)
on this planet.
Nas, I more than gladly admit that Americans have very good humour examples. Like with everything in the states. Take Hollywood, what is mostly produced there is a chewing gum for brain, but they produce so much that some of the movies are real perls.
But still a normal Russian will not like Benny Hill, sorry. We have him on several channels but I don't know a person who would watch this idiotism, it looks so... I don't even have a word for it. Well, humor for children or with pauses in mental developement.
This is all cultural differences. We are all different people. Brits are in general very particular. Every time we are meeting the next guy from the UK we meet here, I see how different from all the rest world these guys are. All my friends who were or now live in the UK(my brother still lives in Ireland) sya that GB is the most boring place in the world, this is also tru to the people. Simply as well as you can't understand the Russian "sarcastic, sophisticated and dry humour", I guess we'll hardly understand all the depth of Benny Hill(if there is any depth there).
With the Americans it is simpler. Most humor there is "cut out with a blunt axe" but still some good things exist.
You know, for some reason every American man coming here is not an average American, I guess Toad formulated this quite good why it happens. So there were really no problems usually with understanding or with "good American jokes". One exception still took place(let Unckle Buck forgive me:-) but for him it was the only possible way. He is out of the few people who would better change all the world around them than change themselves. So from his mouth even straight and quite old jokes I all knew in Russian made me laugh!:-)
God once played the best joke with the tower of Babylon. This is why we discuss all this right now.