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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Its Time The Real Truth Comes Out Author Post vanechka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 9:33:26 AM   Heres a few questions 1/Why have Russian dating agencies changed the way they do business these days. ie you join get a free profile then all of a sudden you are inundated with emails in your inbox forcing you to buy coupons from ladies that didnt even email you. Companies dishonestly trying to make you belive the woman are interested. Havent men realisd this? or is everyone guy that joins bloody stupid.... What a joke.. Are these agencies in deep trouble? Are they doing it because they are losing business? I see a lot of agencies closing down 2/Why dont these so called "legends" of the industry come clean and stop talking crap. There is a blonde lady who writes books and owns one of the biggest agencies. I think you probably know whom Im reffering to. Why dont you write books about the reality or Russian - Western marriages. I dont know one thats worked... Anyone have any statistics?? Sure men are responsible for there own fate but how much more crap do we have to read "russian ladies are better" " russian ladies are less femminist" .. its the other way around russian ladies are more unastisfied , demand more , and have higher expectations than western woman. Maybe generalising however Ive travlled to FSU for 10 years and Ive seen every relationship fail...Guys think carefully Sure men you might be happy for a couple of years but then the you know what will hit the fan... Of course losers here will dispute everything i say.. sure keep being brainwashed by people who tell you how wonderful it all is... Russian woman cant handle western lifestyle Dale E Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 10:46:07 AM   Tell your sister Annika we said "Hello" GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 11:00:36 AM   I think Bagira and Annika had a Vulcan mind melting session that created Vanechka. I'm pretty sure that's what happened. Vane, what would you have us, mere mortal western men do? Abandon the search entirely?... Based on what?... The odds are greatly in our favor to lead a happier life with a foreign woman than with a western one. If the odds of getting divorced happen to be the same, I would still much rather take my chances with a younger, sleeker, sexier, light years more educated and skilled foreign woman than with the average american or western woman. Now if the odds of getting divorced are greater than the conventional west/west marriages many of us would still find it worthy of taking the challenge with the younger, sexier, sleeker, more educated and skilled woman. A mega dose of western optimism would do wonders for you, Vane. toad Annika77 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 11:00:42 AM   It wasnt me :):):):) Dale E Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 11:14:13 AM   Errr....Uhhh....... Hello Annika!!! Sorry, it was just a little joke. I know you would never say anything like that! :o) davey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 11:54:35 AM   I know you guys are going to flame me, but consider these facts: # This business started off in the early 90's when a lot of Russian girls were desperate to leave their country. # A number of fat middle aged pigs got lucky by rescuing pretty young girls from misery. Word got around and a huge new industry was born. # This business peaked in 1998 at the time of the debt default crisis and has been in decline ever since due to fewer girls being available, less attractive girls being available, too many failed marriages and too many men being scammed. You are definitely at the tail end of this business. Yes, many agencies are offering new deals designed to bring back the customers. Even the blond lady mentioned by Vanechka. Many of them have closed down. Activity on the most popular Russian bride discussion board has seen a serious decline. Only the truly blind cannot read the writing on the wall. See what Russians say about East/West compatibility => http://www.unclepasha.com/ , http://www.russiangirlfriday.com/ And then there is the famous straight talking scam hunter. Read his facts etc => http://www.agencyscams.com The Russian and Ukrainian economies are growing at 7%+ per annum. Steady improvement in living conditions give people hope and there is now much less motivation to leave. If I were one of them, I would not leave, would you? And many Russians are aware that the Eastern Hemisphere is the economic growth region of the future and that Europe and the USA have gone pretty much ex-growth with huge and growing social responsibilities burdening the future working force. Americans are very vulnerable due to their belief that everyone in the world is scrambling to get into the US. Forget that. Mexicans etc. maybe! The majority of Russians do not have a high regard of Americans and their culture. Which is probably just an indication of the huge cultural gap. Are there any Russian brides left? Of course there are. But make contact with ordinary Russians and hear how they assess these individuals, their history, intentions and character. Even if you ignore the rest of what I have written here, please do at least this. YOU OWE THIS YOURSELF. And please forget the crap about Russian men. Dale E Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 12:04:01 PM   You need to leave more credible references than Unclepasha. He's a fruitcake himself. I agree with you on many things you say Davey but still I think I have found the best woman I have ever known so everything said is basically irrelevent to me. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 12:18:23 PM   Davey, Perhaps there is some truth in what you say. The days of some fat, bald down on his luck American man taking a beautiful 18 year old back to Alabama are finished but definitely not out. All I can tell you is that I have absolutely no trouble what so ever finding women that are interested in me. In fact I turn them away. Really nice women and because of some minor thing I see I say no. If they were here I wouldn't do that. Reason, because I have a choice. So basically what are you talking about. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 12:33:59 PM   Davey, The way I see by using your criteria. The economic growth in Russia and FSU will definitely affect the meat market (sorry Jmo) agencies, not because women will want to stay put, but because more women will be able to buy home computers to communicate with the rest of the world.....and go see it, find a good man elsewhere and build a future. I already did that with the best woman I could find. She does however agree with you in her low opinion of most american men and american people in general. Having lived here for several months already has given her the ability to separate the crap for the valuable opportunities this lifestyle provides. Tip to the forum: It helps being an Argentinian Toad when looking for an educated, beautiful and highly skilled russian woman who does want to settle down for the domestic variety of men or the average american men who are uneducated, uninformed and other 'uns' I can't even mention without starting another forum fracas...:) toad felicedate Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 12:43:33 PM   Oh, guys! And what for to live now?:-) What should we all do? I even didn't know that you all are just writing to some agency and have never(will never) meet a real Russian queen... I didn't know that my business is in decline because all the girls are comfortable in their prosperous Belarus, Ukraine, Russia and so on! I was blind people! Now I can see again!:-) Now seriously. This is the most blunt crap one can imagine. The number of agencies is all the time only rising, the revenues are much higher than in 1998. Then it was a God's gift if an agency owner could earn 300$ a month, he would be considered a millionere almost. NOw these figures are counted in thousands. The competition is strong so of course companies have to use western methods of aggressive marketing. A few years ago it was enough to make a web-page, sit and wait fort your money. Now in the era of giants like date.com, match.com and so on it is hard to strugge. And have the women in the US changed in the last 10 years? Why then Russian chicks have to?;-) They are as before the most beautiful, white and fluffy in the world! I don't know any Russian guy who would go to Mongolia, USA, Philipines, Costa-Rica or West Gabon to find a woman of his dream! Know why? We have enough of almost perfect girls here. I am finished. Thank you!:-) Dale E Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 12:43:35 PM   Toad- Please point out to me all the womens' profiles that state...."And I would like it if he was from Argentina" :o) Dale E Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 12:50:31 PM   Felice- I, being one of the uneducated and uniformed American men Toad was referring to, must admit that I don't know where West Babon is. Is it next to East Gabon???? I enjoyed reading your post! I would rather get my information from someone who works in the industry than not. (Deceitful as you may be) :o) jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 2:35:57 PM   Felicedate is obviously biased - but I like the points she (he?) makes. The US is the favorite battering toy of the entire world right now. We even see it in this forum from time to time when our British friends get going. We ARE the lone superpower, right or wrong, and whether anyone particularly LIKES IT or not. We STILL enjoy a position of power in the world alone - that many resent (agin whether it is right or wrong to do so). We ARE seen as militaristic and agressive, whether our invasion of Iraq was justified or not. We are the purveyors of things like Big Macs and other unhealthy fast foods. The world can see that the average American waist line far outstretches the norm. Through jealousy, the perception of arrogance and a MILLION other reasons the US is the focus of a lot of animosity. They love to hate us. But at the same time most in the world, especially in the FSU would LOVE to enjoy the benefits that they feel we have but are so unworthy of. My lady would like me to live closer to Moldova if it was possible, say in a European country. She thinks america is very far away. But she certainly wants to come to America. Realize that we will be bashed worldwide until - we take a fall or until someone needs our help. Then suddenly we will be considered fine again. World wide the US is politically incorrect right now. I don't care. And neither does my lady. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 2:37:15 PM   Vanechka, may I call you Fannie? Pronunciation-wise a lot easier on the tongue, it also sounds more amicably don't you agree? "forcing you to buy coupons from ladies" First of all, what makes you think I'd buy coupons from these girls? No way, ditto for scratch cards or tickets for the lottery. You're confused I think Fannie, this is an entirely different gamble we do here. "There is a blonde lady who writes books and owns one of the biggest agencies" Yeah, let the truth be said, blonde she is indeed. Aside from your embedded sneer this must be the cause for her supidity, her failure, divorce and her miserable life in general, don't you agree? Fannie my best Pal, once again you're right, spot on in fact. (Elena Petrova is married, lives abroad already for years, has kids with her 'western' husband, has used her initiative and intelligence to start her bizz and made it into a commercial succes, and has become very well known if not famous. Her various writings have become almost classics and are often referred to, if only because they address a broad spectrum of the differences in cultures.) "Russian woman cant handle western lifestyle" Your prerogative entirely to believe this phallacy my dear Fanus, but don't make unfounded blanket statements if you're a sour Babuschka. There's zillions of examples which prove you wrong, hardly a deterrent for the 'stupid gamblers' you make the men here. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 2:50:17 PM   By the way, why is it ALWAYS Russian women who seem to come on here and tell us how bad the prospect between a Russian lady and a western man is. Is it that old "purity of culture" thing raising its head? Russians HAVE a a lot of pride in themselves and their culture. Make no mistake about it, communism may have fallen - but Russian pride and ethnicism never did. Its a lot like the phenonmenon we sometimes see in the US. Nothing makes certain ethnically proud black people more angry that seeing a happy mixed couple (black/white). it boils their blood. I've seen NUMEROUS black men knocked for becoming successful and taking a white spouse. We hera cries of "Jungle Fever" when a white man becomes involved with a black woman. and most of this comes from the black community that resents the mixing of blood and culture. Oh...to be sure - there are plenty of bigotted white people who have trouble with the same thing. But it seems more that that is simply hate for another race - and less a concern with losing culture and identity. I swear that these Russian women we sometimes hear from - who talk about how Russian women are incapable of adapting to western culture, are just trying to protect the assault they see on their culture and heritage. Russian women are wonderful. They know it. And we know it too. wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 2:51:24 PM   Perfectly said Toad ---!!! The quality women in FSU CAN tell and appreciate worldly, confident, experienced men out of the bunch of crap that exists in America and elsewhere and this will NOT change no matter what the economic growth in FSU. It is in these women's culture to appreciate certain charcteristics in a man. At the end, you have to deserve her and she has to deserve you. Hey, good luck to ArHentina, $100 they'll beat the hell out of the Germs. GO Saviola!!!! wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 2:56:45 PM   Felice, wonderful to come out and spare us from the bullshit that suddenly is thrown on this site. The way I see it the international online dating industry is only in its early stage of development. Internet dating is on the rise, only complete fools can attest otherwise. It has become one of the main channels to find a date these days and it's growing fast. And where else can you find better, whiter, fluffier, smarter women? Thank you! Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 3:02:38 PM   Oh Jet, Felice is as male as you are, trust me. Don't hang a gay veil over his identity, I'm sure he'll be fuming :))) Hey Fuming One, it's summer where you are - what about taking me up on my job-offer from some time back? We need to haggle about the pay as well as who's paying it, but I'm sure we can work something out. Just list the incentives again and we'll cut the deal ;-) jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 3:33:28 PM   I am still looking for women seeking Argentinian`s. :-) GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2005 8:18:10 PM   hehehehehehehe...I know of one precious siberian princess who keeps reminding me "you're an Argentinian man before you became american"... I admit the barb sounded malicious, but I really did not mean it, lol.... Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Its Time The Real Truth Comes Out
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