Guys,
Once you find the woman who stands tall above the rest, the work to build the rest of your lives together only begins...and it's not easy.
Make sure you have a clear understanding, agreement and meeting of the minds on the following subjects before you even think of buying an engagement ring. It will save both of you from painful head/heartaches later...
1. Discuss Good communication techniques
2. Discuss Goals
3. Discuss Lifestyle
4. Discuss Finances
5. Discuss Sex
6. Discuss Children
7. Discuss Health/Age
8. Discuss legality
9. Discuss Marriage Agreement
10. Discuss Special Situations: Death, elderly parents needs, etc.
11. Financial Worksheets
12. Commitment Certificate
I like that comprehensive list so much I have cut and paste it to a file on my desktop. Much I have covered already but it is nice to have a checklist in case this flops and I have to start again. Up the ladder down the bloody snake right JMO :))
You can discuss anything you like Toad, but sex is practised, not discussed.
Put the Bolero on when busy if you like, but one doesn't discuss, one does.
I think that you should discuss sex because you do not want to end up with someone who does not like the things that you do....Who wants to be with someone that does not fufill there needs.....And if it is laid out from the begining there is no complaining about doing certin things......You guys know what i mean.
TD,
Go ahead...sign on the dotted line and may the sex chips fall where they may.
When did I ever say "discuss sex INSTEAD of doing it"?
Discuss, do and do some more, mate...;)
Not talking about sex with your partner is one of the most ludicrous and detrimental things couples fail to do before or during their relationship.
The other most important thing is money.
Depends what aspect of sex you want to discuss. Most women have no wish to discuss sex beyond the basics.. 'Yes. I desire you. No. I don't mind if you wear your fireman's helmet. Yes, I'm clean. No, please don't ask me what turns me on. (Finding out is part of the excitement for her).
If you meet eat other at a bondage party, then the answer is self-evident.
The point is that if you do not discuss the things you want from the begining you might find yourself looking other places for the pleasurs your not recieving at home...And no one really wants to do that after all the time that was invested doing all of this....And im not talking about bondage...Im talking about oral anal. Why should someone get upset if you are honest about what you want from the begining. I dont think that anyone should have to live there hole life with anybody and not be completly open from the begining...They have the right to refuse or get offended if you ask them...And then they might not be the person for you...
And one other thing why should you suffer threw your hole marrige for the sake of not asking questions about sex because once your married its to late......And then what do you do get a divorce......
Oh, I'll discuss money allright, and upfront also. No pay no pleasure, just KIS - or KISS, whatever you prefer :)
The point is Toad, you (OK, moi) do not (like in ever) discuss (different than talking) sex before you've both had it (with the other). Sure, Horny Harry does, he even tries his best to elaborately, vividly and droolingly go for it at length (something he's probably lacking) whilst being only in the corresponding stage, and trust me he also won't get any further.
But, ideally during the aftermath some feelers may well be extended to explore other possible territory, and indeed when such turns out not to be virgin anymore, then better read for the book is opening. For some the book is more interesting when it is virgin though, but then again it remains the same book.
You're childish QC, come on now, a fireman's helmet? Grow up please.
Yeah, I admit, I also dreamt about becoming one, but went straight past policeman to surgeon. Simply because a rocket scientist hardly looks clever holding a calculator, but a surgeon does with a stetoschoop sethosloop stetsonhope.. that thing he hears with ;-)
I can just imagine you meeting someone at a swingers party - "Do you come here often?" :)))
"...If you meet 'eat' other at a bondage party, then the answer is self-evident..."
LOL, Freudian slip of the tongue, QC?
OK, TD
Maybe I sould have clarified that when I said:
"Once you find the woman who stands tall above the rest" I assumed a woman you have already met, had sex with and are considering a serious relationship with or even marriage.
Pardon the omission
Like a suit,try her on to find out if she is ill-fitting. Is she too tight,too loose,or the fabric uncomfortable? Do not be afraid to suggest some changes to the cut of the cloth so you will have more satisfaction with it.... Did you mean "eat meat" at a bondage party QC? I can just imagine stuffing my face with some KFC while watching the festivities. I would probably be oblivious to anything but my gravy and potatoes.
"The point is that if you do not discuss the things you want from the begining you might find yourself looking other places for the pleasurs your not recieving at home..."
Confucius say:
"Wife who puts husband in dog house will soon find him in cat house".
I think this is something that can be generally spoken about before you even meet. I recently have been writing to a woman in Ekaterinburg and she brought this up to my surprise. She was quite candid about what she liked to do. Actually the conversation was quite comfortable. I just went with the flow.
However my rule of thumb about this is to basically be very tactful and somewhat play this by ear, it isn't something that should be vigorously forced it can give a very bad impression. One woman I had to block because she was so aggresive with me over a very slight casual remark that alluded to sex, it was incredibly innocent. St Petersburg what can you expect :))
One thing is sure, women like sex, all kinds of sex in all kinds of places, positions and orifices, I have yet in my life to find an exception. In fact they will still be begging for it everynight when I have settled into the relationship and have toned down my 'needs' to pizza and TV :)) I have found this to be the case my whole life, I have had more than 1 long term relationship and it is always the same.
What is important is to find out her attitude to money. That is vital. However it is again something of an observance thing. When I see in a profile that she lists as a 'hobby or pass time' shopping I am off like a rocket.
I can picture it now. She stands just inside the entrance to a mall, raises her face to the sky her hands held high feet slightly apart. In the left she grips a mastercard in the right a visa. Solemnly she yells .................
"LET THE GAMES BEGIN" !!!!!
"Did you mean "eat meat" at a bondage party QC? I can just imagine stuffing my face with some KFC while watching the festivities"
Interesting question QC. KFC being poultry, do you eat birds? Their slogan is 'It's finger licking good' so I'm not quite sure what they mean anymore, especially when ST also refers to his face, not his fingers. ;-)