nasfan6, your pathetic comments are a bumerang. Read what your full of hatred posting, then look at the mirror and you'll only then find who the disturbed individual is. You have a tendency to self proclaim yourself several things among them: smart, intelligent, honored, honorable, good shooter also I guess. If you believe so, good for you, I take back the confidence comments since living in your illusion is better than thinking of yourself too low.
No dear nasfa6, you have it wrong I'm afraid there are exactly 3 people in the forum that I dislike but don't hate whatsoever. Oh plus one donkey tail that seems to know at least how to use a keyboard (same thing not liking but not hating). May I remind you the hate that you poured with no regard against several other members who are not members anymore because of you. You are terribly boring, monotonous, and most defintely need a good anger management class if there is one out there in the woods.
Since the three of you (four with the tail sorry donkey's tail always hides behind the ass, so it's tough to tell it's there) would like to resurrect old threads, I have no issue, will address it once and for all:
The girl that you discovered was a hooker who asked me to sponsor her when I was with her in Kiev and Yalta. If she had disclosed her identity prior to my visit, I would have never gotten involved with her. She urged me to take naked, provocative pictures of hers. She let me have the negatives, she didn't even ask for them. She suggested that I become her photographer and she would become my model. The pictures were my property and I did whatever I wanted with them.
I will leave you with this:
NONE OF YOU CAME OUT TO SUPPORT LENA AND ASK THIS LATINO ASSHOLE THE QUESTIONS THAT HAD TO BE ASKED. SHE ACCUSED HIM FOR HAVING DOMINATED HER, FOR WRATH, ANGER, CONTEMPT, FOR HAVING DISCLOSED HER RELATIONSHIP ONLINE, FOR PLAYING DOUBLE GAME, FOR CHEATING AND MANY OTHER THINGS. THIS LATINO ASS IS THE SAME PERSON WHO ALSO (LIKE NASFAN6) CLAIMED HE IS HONORABLE, FAMILY VALUES AND THE LIKE WHILE HE WAS TREATING "HISLena" (a trademark by now) LIKE WORSE THAN A HOOKER, AND YOU CAN AT LEAST ADMIT THAT LENA IS AN HONEST GIRL NOT A HOOKER. NONE OF YOU SAID ONE WORD EXCEPT FOR ANNIKA, QUITECHARM AND MYSELF. SAY WHATEVER YOU WISH ABOUT ME, IT DOESN'T COST A PENNY IN MY POCKET. THE THREE OF YOU, THE "HONORABLE" SOCIETY OF THIS FORUM, THE "PROTECTORS" OF RUSSIAN WOMEN (RIGHT...))) ARE AMONG THE 80% THAT SOMEONE SAID IN THE PAST ARE THE WEIRD PERVETIC RAIDERS OF FSU WOMAN'S LAND.
I wish you guys would give it a rest. Here is a thread from when I first joined the forum. Please go by the stuff from WT at the beginning. Please read it.
I was new at this then and so much intelligent helpful info was given to me by several members including wtrav02.
Now we have come to this.
The thread is called 'RUW sexuality'. It is fun to read and full of instruction and good advice mainly aimed at me.
If Nas and WT want to duke it out with words fine but a little advice to you OKM stay out of this.
It comes off as some really unnecessary interference. Stay out of this, there are old fueds going on here that are not your concern even though you mean well. It is best to step to one side.
This will run its course and we will get back to normal.
I personally am sorry that Lena is hurt. She deserves happiness in her life. I also understand Toad's reasoning and it makes sense to me.
However this is someone elses relationship or end of relationship and it is none of my business.
Getting into a slanging match with another forum member over the reasoning of another forum members termination of a relationship is crazy.
Allow this to end fellahs. Go read that thread I mentioned and remember that we all make mistakes and we all have great advice for each other.
I know that I for one have appreciated all the advice I have received even if I didn't understand it at the time.
Never said I was honored by anyone my simple minded fool. I could care less about being honored by anyone. As far as anyone else's relationship here with their women, I could care less. I only care about the relationship I have with one woman. I defend neither Toad or Lena, that has very little to do with me. It is funny many of the people that have left this forum I still communicate with via email and phone. So now you have elevated yourself to hero status with QC and Annika for coming to Lena's defense. Plus to give yourself an out, you call the woman you took the pictures of a hooker. Well, hell when did you find that out before or after your press releases on the internet? So if she is a hooker then what are you? I still truly question if that was really Lena posting here. It really doesn't matter if it was or wasn't her. As far as being a pervertic Raider, you have little knowledge of anything. This is my one and only time I will make such a trip. If it doesn't work out for Larissa and I so be it. The last thing I will ever do is air dirty laundry about my relationship with her no matter what happens. She deserves and I respect her privacy very much. So Wtrav02 cite the other members I have poured hatred too? I would be really interested in hearing about that. I will admit I have great disdain for you because of the cowardly way you act, but hate, no I don't hate you, you don't deserve that kind of attention from me.
Toad bites the FSU dust and a bloodbath ensues. No surprise really. I'm not sure being named in the same sentence as wtrav and Annika is a good thing or not. I'm on nobody's side. I would prefer to be seen as someone who deals more with the realities rather than the fantasy. Not that my own life isn't in many ways a fantasy.
Don't let this bunfight distract from an important lesson. How can you base a lifelong decision on the basis of a two week torrid meeting and a few letters and phone calls? Like finding the one 90 year old, sixty-a-day smoker, someone will always trot out a 'love at first sight' success story. Just as some here do about large age differences not mattering. Sure, Toad was excited and 'in lust' and knew (at least his ego did) that HIS Lena was 'the One'. Why else would he make his, so public, declaration of love? Time has shown that they weren't as compatible as they thought and he has obviously been the one to make the break. Maybe he was testing his own feelings by starting to see someone else. Whatever the reasons, and they can be complicated, we all know that breaking up is very hurtful and can be protracted and bloody.
The naive here, and there are a few, should be warned that middle-aged farts, not long divorced, are very susceptible to the charms of younger women, especially those with beguiling accents that can melt stone, and should take several cold showers, before making any major decision. Maybe Annika and Bagira, who let's face it know their own cultures better than we do, should not be so lightly, or rudely, dismissed in future. Those that act so rudely towards them, diminish only themselves in the eyes of others. But then the ladies in question, (and the silent observers) know that anyway.
Some of wtrav's points are justifiable. It's hypocritical to bang the drum about morality and then act immorally. To denigrate the western female, then take up with one. And to bare all the details about someone you care about, on a public forum (especially this bear-pit). It's the act of a juvenile mind and clearly, highly risky.
If I wanted lessons in piss-taking, egoism, hedonism and rudeness, I would sit with rapt attention at the feet of the master. But if I wanted to learn how to treat a woman and others with respect and to find an FSU wife? Sorry, Toad is way down the list. 10-point lists, just don't cut it for me. Life is not so accommodating. QC
After my departure from Kiev Airport, my Fiancée took the bus back into Kiev.
She said there was an America man who had just arrived and was in the company of a young lady of approx 25 – he was approx 50. Her exact words were “The love of this man and this young woman will be short and not REAL. To woman are necessary HIS money, and to HIM her young body”
We read it yesterday in the Russian paper and it was easy to locate it in English online as well:
Calif. model feared dead; lover sought
August 4, 2005
LOS ANGELES --An aspiring model whose decomposing remains were believed found in a storage facility led a double life that she hid from her new husband -- a life that included an affair with a millionaire almost 40 years her senior, a gold Mercedes-Benz and a house that she and her lover were buying.
A woman's body, and a purse belonging to 21-year-old Iryna Singerman, were found Tuesday in the bed of a pickup truck owned by her lover, Brian Joseph Cullen, 59. The remains had not been positively identified late Wednesday, said Lt. Richard Hanna of the Los Angeles County Coroner's office.
Police are hunting for Cullen, who they believe fled to Mexico.
Iryna Singerman's husband, Ronald Singerman, only learned of her secrets last week, when she failed to return home and some of her financial documents turned up along with a bloody baseball bat in garbage bags that were dumped in a bin behind a Woodland Hills strip mall.
"The family didn't know anything about this," said Barry Greenberg, the Singerman family's spokesman. "(Ronald) had never heard of any of this until the case broke. He's devastated."
Iryna Singerman met her 50-year-old husband, who is a certified public accountant, a year ago through an agency that matches American men with Russian women, police said.
Cullen became a suspect in her disappearance because of surveillance camera images and a witness who reported seeing him toss bags into the strip mall dumpster on July 26. The next day, authorities found blood and other evidence of a struggle when they searched Cullen's Woodland Hills home.
Police believe Singerman's killing was a domestic violence incident.
Singerman spent most weekend's at Cullen's house, his neighbors said. The pair were buying another house together in Northridge, according to Los Angeles police Detective Rick Swanston.
Singerman also drove a gold 2005 Mercedes-Benz registered to both her and her husband and kept the car at Cullen's home.
Ronald Singerman knew nothing about the car until insurance information arrived in the mail, Swanston said. His wife told him that her frequent absences from home were related to her modeling work, but Swanston said police were unaware of her holding any modeling jobs.
Neighbors and co-workers described Cullen as a physically fit, private man with a bit of a temper. He owns a coupon book business and is on parole for a federal wire fraud conviction in the 1980s.
What is happening on this thread, do I detect the voice of reason ???????? Is common sense creeping in ????????? With help with the grammar from my Brit boyfriend I would like to make some comments. Our age cap is a sensible one (8 years) and our relationship is in its 3rd year. This doesn't make me a role model but I prefer a relationship based on reality rather than fantasy, a stable relationship rather than a change of partner every 12 months.
IMHO age difference is important, more than 10 years is almost a generation gap, and using the USA ONLY as an example;
What man in his right mind would travel from California to let's say New Jersey, meet a girl spend one week with her then make a life time committment ??????????? This analogy is easy to apply to the FSU also.
Interesting article above. Something doesn't really fit too well. Why hide a body in your pickup truck in a storage facility with her purse, then take the time to hide the bloody baseball bat and financial statments in a dumpster behind a strip mall? It seems if you are going to hide the murder weapon you would have been more prudent to hide the body, especially in your own truck. Well that's California for you, a state where OJ is free and still looking for the killers and Scott Peterson is charged with a double homicide in a state that overtly supports abortion on demand. In my neck of the woods, that dog don't hunt!
I do have to chuckle at my American counterparts that go over looking for a woman 20 years their junior. Sorry wouldn't work for me. Actually it won't work for many if they are realistic in their approach and search. First we live in diverse cultures and that is a problem from the start. Second what life experiences can you share with a 27 year old? Some guys can claim, but these girls are older beyond their years and that is just a crock of shit. I don't care how mature your 27 year old is, that math doesn't work, because of time on the earth. I'm 47 finding a 27 year old would be ridiculous it isn't going to work. I don't care how beautiful she is we can't share some of the same experiences in life due to her youth. So before some of my counterparts start sniping here, Larissa is 43. I never had intentions of finding a woman in her 20's hell 35 is stretching it a bit and I declined to write many ladies due to the age difference. Larissa and I have shared many similar life experiences and her reactions and feelings to these experiences are very similar to what I have felt. This is common ground and this is what builds a relationship. After over a year and a half of writing calling and visiting her we both feel the risk of our union is worth it. Nothing is guaranteed in life, but we both feel that the love we share for each other and our personalities fit extremely well. Also I think the differences in our cultures provide a lifetime of learning, thus eliminating boredom and tedium. She is taking a huge chance on coming to America, that alone could be difficult for our future. That is the one worry I have, is that after spending all your life in one country, one city will the separation from friends and family be too much. Well she has one sister living in Switzerland now. Time will tell, but it is worth the risk to me. Her fantasies in life is what many of us in my country take for granted everyday. I've prepared all along to make her transition here as smooth and without complications as possible. Even our home is being re-designed with a European flavor. Which has been her input all along. Her choices and tastes in decor. I'm have positioned myself so she won't have to jump in the work force to be a supporting person. Her employment when she chooses will be of her own volition and her income will be disposed of the way she feels it should be. She has spent over 20 years working as a speech therapist, and I told her to take a long rest and enjoy life for a while, get used to the new environment without outside stresses. Hell the new culture and lifestyle will be difficult enough. So my friends I haven't rushed into this relationship without much forethought and preparation. I have also not ruled out that one day I may live in Ukraine. It is an extreme possiblity, but one that I have not ruled out. It wouldn't matter where I live as long as she was there.
She's scary smart, extremely beautiful, has a love for life, and a passion that many people do not have. She's a rare find.
Good one. Yes you and I also are thinking the same. I don’t want to drag out this Post - but if a few here (pending FSU daters of present ones) can learn something and probably SAVE many 1000's 0f $$$ - then something GOOD has come out of this Post.
What did you think of my Fiancée’s words above. These ladies have a very Logical way of explanation - do you agree !!!!!!!
She is 38 I am 48. 38+48 = COMPATIBILITY !!!!!!!!!!
OK now after a few months of total quite from me ,
Yes I still linger in the shadows !
I am a true American ! Not all of us are as you want to interpret ! I am a TRUE American more than most can say ! Yes we all come from Anyplace , Anywhere but I am American Indian and yes , German , British and Swedish . Yes I did the family tree thing ! So now be it we Americans are descendants of everyplace ! Now on to what I have to say !
As for some of you , Yes we know who i am talking of ! As a true American , I never lied or told , stretched any truth of myself ! Not all Americans are the same I know from first hand that YOUNGER Marriage's do not work . Am I to sit and think She (my wife) will push my wheel chair and change my dipper will satisfy me ? NO I think not ! I have read many threads in this forum , Most I have found helpful , But some I do not agree with ! I am 38 and do not look for or want a wife younger than 32 . We Americans do not all think the same ! I do not want as you would call a trophy wife ! I have met a wonderful girl ! yes she is 34 , we have been writing now for 7 months ! and yes I do not talk to any other women ! I was to go see her in July but my work stopped me from it and now I will go and spend all of December and some of January with her . But to say because he is American (hit me in the gut) We are Not all the same ! Bald , fat and perverts ! This is a stereo type if any that I have ever seen ! I can only speak for us (the ones that linger and say nothing) I am a good man as many Americans ! I work everyday (without the holidays) that many of our Europe counterparts get ! I raised my son As many of us would like to do ! And want NOTHING more than A good wife to LOVE and grow OLD with ! So take this from ONE of us AMERICANS we are not all the same , As you will see many people from every Country there are many the same ! So do not bash US ! for one or two that may be or seem bad ! for I am A true American , And only want a true women to grow old with and love ! As many American men want !
And now for some more ! Many men of ANY Nationality Will LIE to his advantage ! It dose not matter were he is or where he comes from ! It is up to BOTH of you to READ in between the lines ! What do you want ? what dose he want , what dose she want ? Do all the letters add up ? Dose he answer to you something you did not ask ? Dose she talk of something that was NEVER was mentioned in in letter to you ? Do you BOTH have the same goals in life (Not what he want Not what she wants) But Do you both have ANYTHING in common ?
Do you BOTH want the same thing ? Is HE will as much as HER to give in ? Do you both look for the same thing ?
Have the same life ? and NEED or WANT someone in your life ? You have to ask many questions ! Not only from HER but YOURSELF ! DO NOT PLAY GAMES my friends ! Yes you all are my friends ! I told my girl I AM NOT A RICH MAN ! But I will do EVERYTHING in my powers to see that you never do without ! YOU will never have ANY NEEDS ! And I will only do as I can AS A HUMAN to make sure you have all your needs ! Most of all . AS WE ALL FORGET ! MY LOVE FOR HER ! AND EVERY NEED FOR HER TO BE IN MY LIFE AS I AM FOR HER ! AND ALSO NO LIES TO HER , FOR YOU ONLY LIE TO YOURSELF ! , MY Girl and I have told each other as I only hope in everything ! Maybe (not from following the threads !) Yes call me a stupid man ! I have fallen in love with MY GIRL ! I have talked to many of my elders ! And I have been very skeptical of all this ! But I was told . When we were younger and our men were in the wars ! This is what we had was only letters ! And many of us our still happy in marriage and the ones that are not only miss for the passed ones ! Believe in your heart ! but always read into what YOU and SHE writes ! . This is not the end of me for I have only began ! Maybe we all can LEARN form me ? and some can read into it as they wish ! But for most , PLEASE NO MORE !