a bride in the FSU, as far as I'm concered, is to try and swing a month long vacation here, or better yet 60 days, find a city, with a population of 2 to 500 thousand inhabitants, a city that is not a tourist destination, a city really not known for anything other than its beautiful girls. As your guide, find a cool Russian guy, who knows the city well, has good communication skills and is outgoing, do not use a Russian girl to try and meet other Russian girls, Russian guys know how to commuincate, pick up, come on, joke with, and meet Russian girls, they are also better at detecting if the girl is a would be scammer, after all Russian guys get scammed too. Your guide needs to understand that you are there to meet girls, you are interested in, A great place to meet girls is at the many open air cafes, there're in all Ukraine cites, either the servers or female customers of these cafes are very easy to talk to, if you can speak Russian of course. To obtain a mobile number from a server or a customer is not that difficult, getting a home number is, but all you need is their mobile, and your guide can arrange the dates. I ve lived in far east Ukraine for 8 months, my favorite girls to date are servers at cafes, they dont ask for much, they work their pretty little poopka off between forms at the university, and they are fun to be with. I ve found that disocs or nightclubs are difficult to meet girls, they usually go there with their friends in small groups and dance, and the noise is way to loud to strike a conversation. But I ve met people who swear that discos are an exceptional place to meet girls. What ever you do, please advoid agencies, and writing letters through agencies, sending letters through agencies are a total waste of time, effort, and more important; money, these agencies make alot of money from guys who write letters as well as the girls who you are writing to. Agencies here are nothig but a rip off racket, and the girls they promote are as well. Stay away from agency girls, the best girls in any city are girls who belong to no agency,
But I think Timmy have a point when it comes dating.. it is usually easier when you are in the same city ;>
Seriously Timmy! I buy your comment, but I know there are a lot of people meeting through email as well, and for many this works perfect.. But of course being in the country is a different cake. But then there are something that is called work (look who's talking..lol) and responsibilities.. Not all people can live in a city for 60 days, even if they want, and for these people the mail and IM works great. And it also has a charm, don't you think?
What works for one person doesn't have to work for another.. some of us is shy, some not.. some of us have a lot of money to go places, some not.. some of us are afraid to take the final step, some not.. We are all different.. I usually go to some of these eastern countries in the weekends and for a week now and then (It is cheap for me since I live quite close), and if I spot a beautiful woman, I just go over to the womans table and say "I have a temporary amnesia.. Do I come here often??"
agencies may work for a few guys, but for the vast majority, the guys come out in the red, I ve taken a total of 7 tours, two to herson, two to poltava, two to moscow and one to kharkov, I ve always found it strange that when your tour is ove and done with, the agencies and thegirls forget about you, like you were yesterdays garbage, but send a few more bucks, maybe that'll will shake our memory. About 34 months ago I toured with a very popular agency chain, I met 12 girls, had a great time, spent much money, one year later I again toured, same ageny, same location, met with the same girls, and again I had a pretty good time, these girls I met with 3 yrs ago are still listed with this agency, 'serious marriage minded,' I say bull shit, these girls receive dozens of letters from lonely guys in the US and they are paid by the agencies, to respond to these letters, their job is to make these guys believe he is the one and only, and that someday they will live happily ever after. Agencies have a purpose, if you want a girl who is about 34 yrs or older then use a agency, but if I wanted a girl that age I would have stayed in the US, I dated girls here through an agency on one occasion, one of the girls asked me if I wanted to be her sponsor on our second meeting, another was nothing more than a pro dater, these girls were arrogant and never would i make this mistake again. Agecnies here are a total racket, they are not at all to b trusted, if there's a will, there's a way, to swing a 30 day trip here, this will be cheaper, more fun, much more exciting and I promise, you'll meet a much better quality girl.
Timmy, do you think it is not written on your face that YOU are not "family oriented"? I guess it is evident to any one who reads this thread. You came to the Ukraine to meet with many nice girls, I don't want to exted this definition not to offend anybody. Well, you received what you wanted... How many were they? Several dozens?
I guarantee what I say, a sex tourist (in a tough or mild form, you are the last) are seen at the first sight. If a girl wants some fun, she will spend time with you. Most girls that come to the agencies are more beat by life, not so successful, have less English communication skills but have great experience of life. They are seeking may be not love in the first place but family. We had experience with such guys as you. They want to come and date 10-20 girls in a week. We just refuse them, it smells bad.
And the last, do not generalize too much. You would be surprized to know how many couples met through e-mails and how many couples were born with the help of the "damned" agencies.
Well said Alex.....for so many people agencies are the first and sometimes only point of contact between people.Whilst timmy may be in a unique position,and judging from his writing he has no need of an agency,it nevertheless does not disregard the agency as a starting point for others.
Fortunately everybody is different and has different requirements,what works for one person will not work for another.Some people prefer the "tour" route,others prefer to go it alone....and each method has it's successes.There is no good way and no bad way either.......it all boils down to personal choice.I personally have used agencies with varied degrees of success,some were good some were awful.
It has been said in another thread about blanket statements and that posting only reinforces that fact.