When someone misses their train they say "oh, I was late for the train"... But if they misses the bus they suddenly say "Oh.. the bus drove away without me.."
FOr some reason you can find the same phenomenon when it comes to relationships with men and women that comes from different countries...
It is strange isn't it? Let's say a man from France find himself an American wife, then they call it INTERNATIONAL RELATIONSHIP, but if the same guy marries a FSU woman, they suddenly change the title to MAIL ORDER BRIDE... Strange, isn't it?
Yes
I shoot people down often. When they (mostly NZ women) say that my trips and motives are not what they class as "decent/normal/moral/it is seedy etc etc"
I say "so going to the Pub - getting Pissed and hooking up with a girl that is partly or fully pissed also, and ending up in the sack on the 1st date - is OK"
but
"Spending months communicating and conversing together and getting to know each other very well - then committing to a huge financial commitment and journey - is seedy and not good dating practice”
NOR, I dont see anything strange in it. Internet is full of sites selling russian mail order brides, thats why people get that opinion. Type "russian mail order bride" in Google and you can see... If I seem bittered for you, ask from your estonian girlfrend what she thinks about that kind of sites?
Just another stereotype. There has been lots of negative attention from the media towards what they classed as "mail order brides affairs", plus many Russian dating services used the phrase as a key phrase for search engines, so now we have what we have.
I think you are right with the stereotype angle because my own experience has been the same. I met a Polish woman on date dot com some time ago. We wrote for a couple of months I flew to Poland we liked each other. She has a 10 year visa to visit the USA so she came here and stayed for a couple of weeks. I introduced her to my friends while she was here. All knew we met on date dot com. No problems and no negative comments from anyone. Obviously the relationship did not work out as planned and I am here:-) She ended up not really wanting to move because of her children when it came down to it and I didn't want to move to Poland because of my children.
I am sorry to ramble by the way. So, eventually I found my way to this site and told some of these same friends that I am writing a wonderful woman from Ukraine and their attitudes where totally different. I was oh, "now you want a mail order bride". I have just come realize that these are the words they associate because it is what they have seen in pop ups while on the internet.
I need to find one of these sites. You can actually order one, without the hassle of going to their country, spending a lot of money, no visa hassle application? Where is this site? How much is the shipping charges?
Personally I could care less what others think. People are going to talk and say whatever because their lives are so insignificant all they can do is run someone else down. They should get their own house in order before they worry about mine. I learned a long time ago not to be influenced by others thought processes, I walk to a beat of my own drum. I let God, my heart and common sense dictate what I am going to do with my life. Not one of the three things I mentioned has to do with any person. So call them a "Mail Order Bride" and that leads to another mantra I follow in life, I won't be wronged, insulted or layed a hand on, I don't do these things to other people and I demand the same in return. When Larissa comes to the states she won't be wronged,insulted or layed a hand on. I'm curious how many will say these things to our faces? I highly doubt anyone.
BAH, American gals who know of my intentions look down at me with an angry look on their faces. They are just jealous that they will not be able to use me for sex!!
"Mail order bride" Try ordering one through the mail and see how far you get. Its much more difficult to date and marry one of these ladies. The only reason we go through the trouble and expense is we believe we are going to come away with a better marriage and more beautiful bride than if we went the easy route by dating the lady down the street.
soccer
Yes exactly :-)
If you could see what I am going through now trying to get a Visa just to get her entry in our country. Jesus - its like pulling teeth.
The effort and $$ and stress - makes this form of dating the most difficult in the world. The effort that I have put into this would have produced a 100 NZ women.
But – I think I will stick with this international dating !!!!!!!!
there is no such thing as a mail order bride.it is demeaning to the lady that you write to. the lady does not want to marry your country
she wants to marry the man she loves . how many here are actually trying to win there hearts.if it dont work out look for another one.that sort of thing. are you all stupid.do you know how many letters these ladies receive , only about 2percent of men travel to meet them they know this. so to them a lot of us are full of shit.
yes these women do want to get married. to a man they see as worthy.
not the other way around.they have hearts and minds. and want to be truly loved. and be truly loving to the man that captures there heart
love does conquer all but you have to demonstrate ot these ladies that you do really care. and are willing to the make the effort.
when you carry on with only your interests at stake. you are seen as selfish and greedy and these women will not tolerate this behaviuor.
they are sick of it in there own men. thats why they look elesewhere
act like a gentleman and treat her like a lady and you will never need any body ellse in your life. treat her with respect and not as a
mail order bride and if she thought that that was what you thought of her.you would be better off staying at home and not writing to them.
Maxirat..a woman is a woman..it does not matter what country they come from.. they are all made of the same material and anatomically, the vaginas are all the same!
There brains also work the same way...they are all the masters of sweet talk and lies!
As for their Vaginas all the same - I must be more observant that you - as I have not found two the same yet.
Livelyone
Try live-lying up your vision and broaden your mind. You have gone off on the wrong track above - or - are you just talking to yourself instead of us (the 2% that have been there and found our true loves)
Maxi, holy shi$, you mean I am among the 2%; never been a groupie but I will belong the this group. As for all women being the same-never met two that thought alike, looked alike, felt alike, treated me same or had brains that worked the same-thank gosh they all different because men all different.
Castaway
The chap above has had a bad experience with a FSU girl - that’s sticks out like Dogs balls. If you read his posts they all cry "poor me - why me - I got jilted and dripping in self pity" any man that thinks or treats ALL women the same - is going to go down the "Bad relationships" track real quick !!
The 2% was his statistic. I think it is actually 5% and climbing.
Women are all the same..they will all knife in your back if its to their financial advantage and it applies to women from all countries so I am not picking on ex Soviet woman.
I was deceived by FSU girls or scaammers or whatever and my losses were small and I quit that dating scene 9 months ago and I have a local fiancee now for 9 months and could not be happier.
The FSU internet dating/MOB scene was not for me and an interesting and learning experience..for most men this does not work, hence the low 4% of men who were actaully do the personal visit and about three quarters of that fail to marry them.
Its good money for the dating agencies and economies of the FSU.
Good luck to those that do it and succeed...Id rather stick my money in a poker machine as I have a far better chance of getting a payout for my efforts!
Its all BS as far as I am concerned..3 or 4 US men a day file complaints with there embassy in Russia abnout being taken and scammed..its rife! go to CBS news and view report(April 2005) on mail order brides featuring Elena Barrett, detective investigation service for FSU brides!
Maxirat whats so different about vaginas of gals. Some have fur, some don't, some are looser than others and others tight and they all serve the same purpose..to blow into it!
Many a man has pissed his life away on a piece of fur between a womans legs!
After being married 12 years and then divorced, I can take them or leave them and I will never do marriage again as its crap and me and my fiance will live out of wedlock as neither of us want marriage because of our past crap experiences with it..easy to leave a girl if not married and its not messy!