There are many good stories and results here also, remember that the good FSU relationships success’s are now history and away from this Forum and getting on with their lives.
I am heading to Auckland to meet my Kiev Fiancée on Friday. So I am one very happy man. It has been very hard work and very time consuming and there has been times I wanted to throw the towel in. But I am glad I persevered and won.
Go for it - do your homework - don't fall in love with a picture - Don't stay forever behind the keyboard.
My god - I wish I had of had the vision to do this when I was 30 - your world is your oyster my boy - go forward and reap the rewards of the FSU pantry !!!
regarding materialism i would say from my experiences, that on the first views eastern european women seem to be less materialistic than their western counterparts. but i know many ee-women, living later here in germany after marriage developed even to be more materialistic than their western female collegues.
it depends on the individual character and cannot be generalized on all women from a country.
Steeleman,
You make it sound as if you envisage such a trip will be alike to going to a supermarket, you simply pay a visit, find what you want, and take it home with you.
If you believe that Ukrainian ladies are that easy then you have one hell of a culture shock awaiting you. Before considering marriage to any lady you need to, and she expects to, have a romance & relationship first, any quicker then she's not interested in you, merely your country or money.
Please, learn to walk before you start running.
I had a chick from Australia, young, pretty, single, did visit me every year for 6 months in Florida. Great women as long you don´t marry them, her beautiful sister, 33yo has 3 kids, one of them black, from 3 different man, never been married!
Feel free to email me as well. I can vouch for this forum, it provided me with all the information I needed. I just got back from Ukraine a few days ago.
Ok you want my advice Steeleman.
A fellow Aussie your age. If you want the stunning looking girls forget Ukraine and Russian woman . It will eventually Fail... All you will get here is biased comments from men who are either naive or people who are affiliated with fiance.com...Sure it will be heaven for a few years. But you listen carefully to what I say.
The reality is this..
1/ Your Ukrainian girl will not stay in Australia. Bring her back and after a while you will remember my words.
Despite the economic problems in ukraine they still know how to live. Your lady will immedietely be confronted with homesickness and nothing will solve it. And she will want to go back.
2/The Myth that Ukrainian girls make great wifes blah blah is bullshit. Sure some might but in general most Ukrainian girls have a lower work ethic than Australian. They just want to sit back on a beach , be spoiled 24/7 ... Thats generally the story with most europeans,
3/I went to ukraine with 5 mates. We all eventually got girls back to Australia. None of us still have ukrainian girls and we all are happy because of it now.. The cultures are too different and the problems that you will put yourself through is nightmarish..
4/Despite the bullshit stories you hear "russian woman want to leave because men drink , want a good man etc
Its crap there are many "good men" in Ukraine. Mark my words they want to escape for 2 reasons... And none are related to you. Economic escape , more opportunities via green cards.
What pisses me off about forums like this is you only get people with one side of the story . i see a lot of people giving out just positive stories. But nothing forewarning any negative. And believe me 99% are negative..Maybe all the negative posts get all filtered by fiance.com.. oh well mine will probably dissapear as well..
Ok if you want to believe other people tahts fine. I have nothing to gain from this myself. Im telling you that you are making a huge mistake. TRhis is of course based around the fact that you want a sexy russian girl. maybe the odds are better if you want some average woman ...
And when I read posts from men here who are getting involved with russian woman with kids then surely you realise what sort of men these men are? Im like you dated sexy woman in aus and in Ukraine.. Ill stay in Australia and I warn you to as well
Travelling to Ukraine to find my bride sounds like to do shopping. Vanechka is right in many points. Sometimes you can buy an expensive but unnecessary thing.
Gave it away there didn't you HL or can I just call you asshole for short?
Lena has perfect English. She is an interprter for large corporations worldwide asshole. She speaks fluent English. Why don't you find a new hobby. Like seeing how far you can stick dynamite up your ass and then light it.
What is your problem and can the admin get rid of this idiot.
sorry it did not work out for you and your friends, I am sure you must share part of the blame or are the girls the only ones you blame.
Marriage is a compromise, a massive compromise of minor points that make a joint union. For myself, I hold on tight to my personal ethics, my personality and my foundation values: these I change for no-one. But my fashion, the color or my teeth, the location of my home, my work schedule, etc-all these I change for my new family.
As for the comment about girls with kids, what are you implying-if it what I think you are implying then you are very sick, you need serious help.
and what is this about only good stories, have you spend 30 minutes reading this forum. It is full of heart wrenching stories of trial and errors; heartbreak and some stories of success. Get a life and read the forum without that freaking "shit filter" you seem to be looking through. I wish you the best with you local girls but don't fault us who have found love in the FSU.
"And when I read posts from men here who are getting involved with russian woman with kids then surely you realise what sort of men these men are?"
Just exactly do you mean by that?
As for your diatribe I would want to now the exact precise circumstances of each case of the 5 of you before I will jump to any conclusions.
There are tons of success stories. Just because you failed does not mean we will.
Only this morning I had a converstion with my friend in Kharkov. She is only a friend. She earns plenty to live and yet is seeking a guy from overseas. She loves Ukraine but is looking for love not a free paycheck.
Yes there are women who want an economic escape route and I would be stupid and naive if I did not think that the lady I am seeing is not factoring that in. However for reasons that I do not want to go into it is not the main reason. She is looking for a husband and a family. She has little chance where she is. So we are trying to put this together. Thanks for the encouragement
Anyone with half a brain would realise how stupid and insane it is for a western man to get involved with a russian woman who has kids. I mean cmon how low in the barrell do you need to dig.. Im so sorry you havent seen the light yet
Izifaddag
Ill be interested to read your posts in 3 years when your russian dream has capitulated.
Is there anyone else here that sees the light?? for 2 minutes of lala land you are stuffing up your lives
Ditto, Tradman, Splash are you reading these posts? I guess you will be regreting it soon eh? Yep made a huge mistake there didn't you?
NOR I think you had better send her back to Estonia now while you still can get out and Maxi I would head straight back to the airport with Lena. Do it now before the price of gas goes up again!! Nasfan end it now while you still are in one piece, Larisa is going to rip you apart!!
I live in America buddy. It is a country that is full of people from all over the world with more arriving daily. People think nothing of marrying across cultural boundaries and bring others in from other countries. I myself was married to a Cuban and Spanish is as natural for me as English. The diversity is one of the reasons that America is great. I am surrounded by Ukrainians, Balarussians, Russians and folks from just about every other country under the sun. Why on earth do you think that my Elena will not fit in and what is wrong with getting a ready made family? Nothing would have been easier than to find a lady with no children they outnumbered the ones with kids by 2 to 1. However I want a family I prefer that. What is low about it? Why is it wrong? I will tell you - NOTHING!!
So lala land this buddy.
I have a serious doubt whether you have even been to FSU or you wouldn't write this tripe.
you are a prize, I hope some girl snaps you up immediately because our girls would fall for you in a second and leave us standing in the dust, NOT!
Have you completely lost it, or did you never have it to begin with. I raised two of my own children and three step children; I love each and every one of them even though I am now divorced from my previous wife. Every one of them completed school, attended college, etc on my dime and I am damn proud of my successes and I have learned from my failures. All my children are now adults.
Now, lets talk about my future son. This will be my first boy, my other children were all girls. I am as excited to have a son as I am to have my new wife. We will play computer games together, we will play ball, I will teach him to drive, we will talk about girls, and I will be his father.
"Half a brain", well does a PhD and making over $200K a year qualify or is that still only half a brain.
vanechka-you make me want to puke. The verbal diarrhea coming from your oral hole is enough to turn all women into "man haters". Do us all a favor, go to the store, buy a pencil and dig out the mental constipation from your as@.
Your deserve the "hell" you have brought upon yourself.
Tell you what, write your name on a piece of paper, look at-does it say GOD, if not, then your view is not the supreme view and you are just a pion like the rest of us. The difference is; we are happy and you will continue in your personal "hell"
Izi:
just who is the clown with the black cloud over his head!!!
He obviously chooses to read only the negative things,and ignore the rest,looks like my mistake is gonna multiply come the end of the month (patter of tiny feet).....shit......I'm that upset I can't stop grinnin..:)))))
Glad
Yep you are another one who made a terrible mistake. It will never work. It is all doomed.
:))
I wish you well. My lady wants another child but I think 1 is enough for me. We are all just a bunch of fools. What can I say. Congratulations and have a cigar on me when the nipper says hello to the world.
Incidentally Sailor my lady has a little boy of 3 and a half. He is great and I cannot wait to be his father. I have no children and no family. This is all like a gift from God for me. Unfortunately there are those who will rain on anybodys parade even if the sun is shining.