this is kind of a strange thread and i really dont mean to sound ignorant. I would like to address this topic to the woman of the fsu who read and contribute to this forum.
I read jetmba story and i think for me if not other people it brings out all the fears about adjustment to a different country and really a different mind set and culture and how to make a relationship work and last.
It is not uncommon from what I have seen on these posts for woman from the fsu who are divorced to have children which they will bring with them and who hopefully will be able to adapt and you will love them and care for them as your own.
For some of us who are divorced we have children who are with us most of the time and are not every other weekedend visitors but our primary care and mean as much to us as anything or anyone in the world.
I guess the question i have is in the eastern european culture how are the children of the husband looked upon by the the new wives? Is it something that is culturally accepted and embraced or is it something that is just not done and the children are never really looked upon as "their own".( a kind of cinderella phenomenon)
I know people will say it depends on the woman but I think it may be somewhat more than that , I think culture makes subtle marks on a person and i really think American and Eastern European cultures are different.
I know this may sound like a silly question ,but when you thinking of starting a life together with someone it crosses your mind .
Thanks
You are just looking for a lay aren't you?
Curiouseuro?? Where do you come up with this stuff? Your user name is Russian and the email address is 'Euro'. You are not Australian. You are as bogus as your posts.
Maybe you mean Bicurious?
Anyone with half a brain would realise that dating a woman from Russia with a kid is the lowest bottom of the barrel situation. But hey nmaybe you are so fucken ugly you jhave no other options in your country. Its laughable. isnt it?
I am an aussie mate. And the Australian government is probably the only govt in the world that knows what Russian woman are about and make it almost impossible to get one ..
Well Vanechka, you have finally said something that makes me a bit more relieved, the fact that you will not be able to kidnap another poor FSU girl and drag her into you web because of the Aust. Gov. is a major plus. Now if you would just do us the second favor, step out in front of that turnip truck tomorrow so we will be relieved of any further posts from you.
It is well known how hard the Australian & NZ governments work to prevent eastern european women from emigrating to their shores, whether to marry local men, to practice trades in their field of expertise or even as students.
What else can anyone expect from a government that seriously considers wasting tax payers moneies in their attempt to pass even more anti-male discriminating legislation that gives women PAID monthly holidays for having a menstrual period every few weeks..???
no the government makes it hard because they realise that russian woman wont stay , they want to make sure the relationship is genuine so they analyse every angle. they protect losers like you from fucking up their lives and getting married to a russian mail order bride
Vanechka,
Please tell us in detail your own personal account of what happened between you and your FSU woman and maybe it will help us draw a conclusion to why this has become your holy grail or vendetta against Russian women. Maybe we will understand you better or at least gain some helpful knowledge to better ourselves.
read my other posts.. I havent married a ukrainian girl . But i know the people that run the industry and you can choose to listen to me , or experience it yourself... if you argue my points back them up. I doubt anyone here as travelled to ukraine as much as me...
The government is trying to stop Ukrainain girls leaving as well so be careful guys ive heard some nasty stories
No but you sure seem to be following his thread...I think someone asked you more than once, if you have something productive to say or share, feel free to do so. And while it is none of my business, I find it an interesting question. I have just respond to someone in Ukraine with a child, and I am wondering like I have read many times on this site...Do the mothers seem to be more responsible and serious than those who have never had children. I think that nomad made a good point and that is society does have an impact on our lives. The woman that I am corresponding with is young, very young. But she blasted me out of my seat with her knowledge in words and how serious she seems to be.
My question to anyone out there who has knowledge about younger women with children being serious to start a new life with someone else, do you think a woman who is in their early 20's is capable of doing so?
I would also like to hear the answer to nomad's question, and forgive me for cutting in nomad...I am a single father myself...
Ok you convinced me. I will give up my beautiful Ukrainian fiance to be and return to my corner. Maybe I will be able to find an old, overweight, American slob to condecend to marry me.
It was a stupid idea and I don't know what got into me. I shall slink off into a corner and keep thanking my lucky stars that I was corrected by this young, inexperienced Aussie with the foul mouth.
What would I have done without him.
We ought to do something for him. I am thinking at least a statue. Maybe a plaque on a wall somewhere?
A woman with a child is going to be serious, a woman at any age with a child is going to look at the process very seriously. She will look you over more seriously to see if you will be a good father not just a good husband.
Don't fool yourself and get all cozy thinking that you have it made with an FSU single mother just because her intentions maybe more serious than a single woman (which is not always true, anyways).
Look carefully at the can of worms you're opening and do the leg work to make sure all is well for the child to move abroad PERMANENTLY...fathers permission, health, grandparents attachments and most importantly take a hard look in the mirror and ask yourself if you're prepare to put up with the parenting process to upbring another man's child every day of every year for who knows how long it will take till the kid(s) leave the nest.
Does the little brat like your sorry butt or is he/she going to sabotage your relationship with her mother?
And that's only a few things to consider BEFORE they say yes to your proposal.
Then you have to prepare to parent the child once they get to your home town/country.
I think Izi got a good handle on it, being that he's going back in november and may bring a woman + child to florida. Pay attention to what he does and closer attention to what he DOES NOT do, lol...:)
Good luck.
I agree toad. There are many things to consider. The parenting thing I have no problem with. I already do that. The whole point I was making is that this woman would normally be considered way too young for me. Which is a whole different discussion. But the way I see it is that being a mother could be a plus, or a total disaster. I had already considered the childs father, etc. I would like to hear more about divorce laws and custody laws in the FSU, or a site to learn from.
I thank all of you fine gentlemen on this board for all of your help and support.
I wish you the best izi, and I will be thinking about your trip. Let us know soon how it goes....
Thanks to all of you guys and you too Oleg for your support..
One of the things to consider is whether you should be taking advice from someone who has not been through the process, has little experience of rearing another man's child, who describes children as brats, who advocates the four FFFF's as a good approach toward women and who's public humiliation of his Siberian girlfriend leaves him commanding little moral authority.
Toad.
I've watched you gradually creeping back into the forum and your posts becoming increasingly confident. So much for never coming back. What's up? Lonely without your little coterie of sycophants? Ego in need of the oxygen of attention?
You dumped 'YOUR' (for about 2 weeks) Lena for 'your' American ex-g/f who, let me guess, remembered what an arrogant prick you are and blew you out. Tell me. How many seconds after that did it take you to write back to 'YOUR' Lena? You did write back didn't you, 'Mr. I don't need a Plan B'? How did you do it? Come on. You've shared every other lurid detail with us..
'Dear Lena. How are you? You know, I just can't get you out of my mind'. Or 'I know I led you to believe I was serious in my intentions, when I was actually banging my ex-girlfriend but can't we still be friends?'
You just keep blowing your own trumpet, old son. You might establish a bit of credibility With some of the members here, the ones who don't look too closely under the carpet or who are intimidated by your ignorant abuse. But the ones who have an ounce of decency in them will see you for what you are. A self-promoting nobody who, behind the know-it-all facade, hasn't the faintest idea how to treat a woman and who blames the opposite sex for his own moral inadequacy.
Go on, Toad. Please, please keep telling us all how it's done, while at the same time, failing. It's pure theatre.