Though you share a common bond of kinship with us, it is apparent you lack the same understanding; it seems you are not sophisticated enough to counter the flood which both confronts and conquers you. Capitalism.
Inured against foreign invasion, you have succumbed to that which you covet. The West is the best.
If you seek to build a relationship with US, you need to compensate demand with supply. It is puerile and immature to assume that the West has not tried the games you play; remember we have 85 years of experience, you have none. If you sell products that fail demand, you will fail.
I have paid for a service in US dollars and have not received compensation - you have the naive audacity to Email me with new offers.
You have much to learn,
Welcome to N.A.T.O., and perhaps the EEC and the 21st century someday.
Dear West! (or perhaps, the US!) or may be just Dubius
You too share a common kinship with us simply because all of your population comes from Europe and from slavic countries like Russia and others. YOu have such a short history (just a little over 200 years) compared to Russia's history of over 11 centuries so how dare you tell us how to run our country and build a relationship with US? If you are dissatisfied with the service you have received from some dishonest people - why are you acting like a hormone-driven adolescent? Why blame the whole country just because you have been duped by two people who are allegedly Russian? We do not call America a land of imbeciles just because some people over there have IQ a little over 60!
So we have the audacity to tell you that you too have yet much to learn!
The United States is an extension of the ancient Republic (based primarily on the Res Publica of the Romans) with the joint houses of the Senate (Senatus) and the People (Plebiean) or as we prefer –Representatives - a system and collection of people that has roots in all European people and is therefore superior to any individual European political construct, as it draws on the best.
The US was forged by, and is the unique refined product of European history. It is our birthright to question Europe for she is our mother and we still spill blood for her. Eleven Russian centuries of blood and culture are as much a part of US as the rest of the world, so be careful in your criticism of US.
My people are not genetically superior; they are culturally, politically and militarily superior. We all nations interactive – our system works; we are wealthy, articulate, proactive and yes, we are vulnerable; we have faults and admit them.
Russia does have a lot to learn as she draws only on her own cultural reserves and is resistant to change for she fears domination. I simply meant to point out that you are using our system WWW.US.COM to make money and should know better than to scam US.
I came to this site with plenty of hard earned money and expected to be compensated for my expenditure; it was my best hope that I would find a beautiful Russian woman whom I could love and spoil with my wealth in exchange for her loyalty and children. (If I hated Russia, or despised her traditions, I would not wish to procreate with her!) Instead I have received a letter with no substance and bill for $130.00 US with only empty offers of other girls. I do not think that I am behaving like an adolescent when I ask for service. Do not try to bite the hand that feeds you.
Your people are courageous, cultured and intelligent but I am sure that your bluster about US short history is inspired by your sense of inferiority. You are not inferior, just needing to adapt.
Accept the challenge; America will respect you for it. Don’t scam US; don’t puff up with rusty pride! Use our system and beat it! Japan did. C’mon Russia, you are great, founded by the Rus Vikings, don’t be bitter, either try to be as powerful as US or shut up, and do as you are told!
Well, Dubius, I have really tried to follow your line of thinking here, but, curses, I am foiled once again. You say you came seeking a woman of character. One who would build a family for you, a heritage in a way. Why not an American woman? That answer I already possess. Greed. Self promotion to the point where her family becomes secondary. Been there, done that!! I am sorry my friend, but this isn't a matter of history, but a matter of the heart. And realizing that, you really must understand that culture and money have little or nothing to do with it. Or am I the one who is being naive? I will grant you that Russian business and society do not move at our frenetic pace, and God willing, they never will. Because with that pace and all that money comes a certain loss of dignity and pride. The Russians still maintain theirs, but we have the money? Who really won this whole thing?
I accede to your point on personal relationships; American society, based as it is on competition and liberality, has lost something when it comes to family life. American men and women are socio-economic competitors; division of labour is considered a form of oppression rather than a practice that grew out of mutual need. Americans are so successful as a community, that our children are now commodities to be legally bartered for, and reproduction is an asset that is bought and sold.
This is why I seek a Russian woman. I hope she posses that which Americans have lost sight of. However, relationships are as much a matter of the heart as practicality; capitalism works because it is amenable to this - Russian woman need love, security, protection, understanding, and they want material things. American men have everything but no women; it is a good trade fair commerce. That is why your site exists. If you cannot supply American consumers with what they pay for then your site will fail. Your site is successful now as it is new and fools are born every day, but Russia is a part of the American system and if it fails to follow the rules, it will atrophy, and fail.
I am angry and frustrated by your site’s failure to supply me with what I have paid for, but I am wealthy and I will shop elsewhere; perhaps the Philippines, Vietnam or Thailand. There is no argument here, I am not being hostile, just honest – Russia has got to join the rest of the world or fail.
Be competitive. Russia is filled with beautiful, skilled and resourceful people. Allow real contacts to occur, supply demand faithfully - be it a product or loving women - and be rewarded with wealth. Or you can scam the world and get quick money till the world losses respect for you and does business elsewhere. At this point, Russian currency is worthless -because the world does not trust Russian goods and services. The United States makes some of the best and most recognized products in the world, as does Germany, Japan and Taiwan. We are successful because we are faithful to our customers – why else would your site primarily target American men – because the American Dollar is the most respected.
I will find a nice and loving woman wether she is from your site or elsewhere – rather than arguing the point, would you not prefer we establish a solid commercial relationship to mutual benefit?
Don’t be too proud Russia – the customer is always right!
Have you heard of rageoholics anonymous? You may be able to get some help there. If you are as wealthy as you claim to be why so much trouble about a couple hundred dollars. I also wasted a few hundred greenbacks on several sites until I learned the ropes and am happy I found the one girl who has filled my heart and my life with true happiness. Sure you can also try other sites. It’s only a matter of luck, experience that comes with trial and error and chemistry. All that capitalism B.S. does not belong to this forum.
If you are so well versed in economics, why don’t you understand that “international introductions” is a brand new industry and as is the case with every new industry it takes time and evolution until supply and demand reach equilibrium. Many of the leading sites of today may not exist in a couple of years, you may see partnerships being developed and new ideas that may entirely change services and cause shake-up in the whole industry. We, the customers of this industry, are “early adopters” at this point and should expect imperfections in service and prices that in a few years will look like a rip-off. This is a trade-off that we are willing to make just like when we go to the store to buy a new technology that is not proven and we know the price will drop and the product will get much better in a few months. But we don’t want to wait and instead we go out and buy now. Economic theory cannot explain everything because it does not count the human factor.
As far as Russia, I only have two trips to Ukraine under my belt and cannot claim that I understand enough the rich Russian culture or the Russian people. However, I have been amazed by the quality of mind, purity of soul, and vast reserves of affection of the average Russian woman.
You think of Russian women like they are some kind of raw material to be used in your reproduction. Women are much more sensitive than men and can detect sickness and stupidity even in letters. Maybe your failure to find a woman in Russia is the result of your attitude. I don’t mean to be judgmental, but I am really sorry about the woman who would be naïve enough or hopeless enough to accept your personality.
P.S. Make sure you don’t write these things about your reproduction in your letters to women from the Philippines, Indonesia, etc. or you may end up with one of the many hookers who reside in these countries and are looking for losers who would give them a second chance.
And one more thing: the customer is not always right (in what century were you in business??). The customer is right as long as you can make a profit out of him/her (in a legal and ethical manner of course). The charter of every business is to make money ...
wtrav02, Hats off to you! Your point is right on target and you took the words right out of my mouth. Nice to see somebody here on the forum that talks with the capacity to acquire and apply knowledge. (in·tel·li·gence). lol
Dubius, I have been to Russia many times and I handle many immigration cases here in the states for a wide range of visa's. I must tell you that you dont have the slightest clue to what your rambling on about. Just a suggestion: If you havent been there or had active participation in events or activities, leading to the accumulation of knowledge or skill in that in which you claim to have. Then please keep your thoughtless advice and ideas to yourself. You lead people astray with your clueless remarks.
Please spare us the nonsense and take it somewere else. (get out of the book knowledge and experience the real world for once then talk about it. Russian Woman deserve more than to be classified by you. If your having such problems with women, Maybe you should look closer at your self than blaming the culture of that in which you know nothing about.
Your so proud of the American dollar! You will be disappointed to know that in Russia business is done with the Ruble.
According to Russian laws, it is illegal to pay for goods and services in foreign currency, with the exception of authorized retail establishments. Ruble is the only legal tender on the entire territory of the Russian Federation. You cannot go on the street and use the Almighty American dollar as easly as you tend to think. But you know this already because your an economic expert!lol
This site (A new industry in russia) is the most legitimate customer orientated site I have found to date dealing with Russian woman. If you think you can find better than please let us all know.
Gee sanchopanza to bad you were not here when these guys were on line, I am sure you could have really enjoyed some conversations with these guys. On a thread or two before these guys were complaining as the cost to send a letter was ten freakin dollars, yeah every letter you sent to a girl was ten bucks. I squeeze a nickel so tight the Buffalo snorts oh! i'm not giving my age away am I
Let's also keep in mind that this site does not sell Russian women, but the service of communicating with them. I am sure that this service was provided to Dubius without fail, right? What you make of that is up to you, and if your letters are as full of arrogance as your writings above then no Russian woman in the right mind will want to get involved with you.
I nearly went into an anti-american rave when I read your comments dubius, however I am not anti-American and will set your supidity and your nationality apart from each other.
You want to exhange your wealth for her love and children, what kind of crass offer is that, you will get the woman you deserve with such an offer. All empires rise and fall, Roman, spanish, british. Pax Americana will go the way of Pax Brittanica, it is only natural. I wonder how you will feel in 50 years time being told to play by Chinese rules or fail.
If you chose to use a crap service, then you are responsible, not Russia. Try this site if you want good service, but I suggest you modify your attitude or face many more rejections