Enjoyed reading the posts. Im wondering how many guys here have gone
through the process of sponsoring a girl from Ukraine to Australia. I
have not started the process yet. I am a little frustrated at the
incredible red tape involved and the very low chances of getting a
fiance visa for example approved particularly through Moscow.
I have not started the process at all. But I am looking at going on a
holiday early next year with a few friends. And am wondering incase I
actually meet a girl I like what i should do before hand. For example I
would prefer to meet someone face to face but i have heard that a lot
of men write for 6 months before hand then meet . Which apparently
strenghtens the case.
Im always wondering about another issue. Moscow seems to expect you to
spend a considerable amount of time with a girl but not take into
account that you are from another country and can't leave work all the
time. Is there a way that anyone else has found on here that lets visit
a girl once and having a succesful visa application?
Anyone know any good legal people involved with Ukraine who know how
the process works . Why is it so anal with Australia they let muslims in by the truckload
thanks Antonio
Why do notorious members from the past - reintroduce themselves as "NEW"?
Surely they must be aware that trun-over here is not so great that they have been forgotten.
Of course, he/she or anyone else is welcome to post (in my humble opinion - for whatever that is worth) as long as their comments are not abusive.
But if i had a notorious past - and decided to revsit the forum - I would at least choose a different ID. Its so easy. I would rather do that than just raise eyebrows by claiming I was NEW....
Might try typing after hitting the "Caps Lock" once.
That way, when you hit the Shift key, the first letter in proper nouns will be capitalized and the rest will be lower case, and not the other way around.
It might seem trivial, but we, in the forum, are kind of used to reading things that way.
Simon,
I very much doubt if it's official title is a 'Fiance Visa'. Firstly, a Fiance is a geezer, a Fiancee is a Sheila and Lawyers tend to talk it a black & white world and refer to such a document by it's correct title, probably a form number or a settlement visa or similar.
vanechka
read your post -iam aussie too 3 months mucking around with 4 of em all 4 ripped me off blind ( and i trust everybody ) my advise mate --it should be ohh so simple you know you read all this drawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnn out crap of 6 months on email , the sad stories the ohh iam broke listen mate hey they all survive on $350 AUD a month they did it long before we came along -they'l do it long after we have gone , iam through with agencies , all the crap !! just do it mate like we did with our sandman panelvans in the 70's head into a bar grab a chick if it works fine you end up together if not well yu only a plane fare outu pocket , and a motel for ten days mate i learnt an expensive lesson --trust nup they dont know the word ,not the first 4 anyway !!
most yummy chicks in the world yes of course , but respect has to be a two way street we bring the $$$ pay the fares --well beggars cant be choosers and i do believe they owe us the courtesy for at least going over and making the effort to make thier lives better ,
il splash 10k on a girl; ive got $$ but the moment i smell one whiff of disshonesty its all over red - rover !
mate as aussies go well --your an aussie most of us have been down the clean out road with woman my god id never risk that again long term girlfriends mate is the only way to go as ive presently got a realy nice girl in Kerch UKRAINE never a worry this one 28 lovely iam 48 --but after 34y/o sorry cant hang of my arm a blokes got to stay yound true --got to have a bit of that jimmy bond danger about it all --nothin like it ay and lifes boring without bit of danger . dont yu love it !.forget the marriage part of it mate do as we used to ---shack up with the girl -why tie all the knotts after all if you ever get sick of each other at least you can both walk away .
Marriage celebrants are fast going broke in aussie as 6 months after wedding everybody invited back for the divorce ay --reality mate , shack up with em end of the day its all the same thing .
Best of luck mate but dont let em hang yu with the heart strings and the sobs -these are smart girls --granted id say 70% of em are total genuine --but it can be a minefield to work out just which part of that percentage you are dealing with .
Basical i think russia /ukraine would get a lot more aussie $$ and visitors if indeed they all played it straight in the honesty stakes , carefull of the curruption over there the cops mate -[passporty --then they'l scam $50 off you ONLY IF YOUR SILLY ENOUGH TO PAY EM ! of course it don't work with me --i grew up in redfern in the dark days ! you know its well known fact redfern folk nup sorry a law unto them selves - but they tried me on with the passporty $50 buk wrought these two cops i just said to em hey guy you want $50 YOU GO AND FIND IT / or work for it --they got the message.
When you go thier mate do take our aussie ways with you --DO not bow down to some bent cop --stick to yu guns ---worked ok for me iam there and back ok .
stay street wise ,advise stick with the girls i find em overall fantastic , actually so good iam sellin up and moving to thier permanant like .
Who needs all the political correst crap of australia -thats one good thing about the place yu dont have all the political correct crap yu can do what you want .
Dont get to engrossed on all the ohhh cops ohh mafie --lot of it pie in the sky fairy tales . its blown out of proportion .
steelman iam heading to ukraine 9th january you dead right the visa process is a yawn compared with russia -i sponsored a girl hear for 3 moths last year not a worry ive never worked out what all the fuss was about -here was me expecting all the nasties but no it was easy as pie .you have it dead right mate with the aussie chicks id not even look at one now --no class mate and as you know you can give aussie couch potato $1000 at 10 at night and quarter past ten you are a mungrel for not putting out the garbage .
why have we wasted so much of our lives with the materialistic morons ay and the only sex you get will be on your birthday --thats only if they remember.
Look at the class and pride of russian ukraine girls mate --they are so far ahead its unreal .they dress to kill 25 hours a day that impresses me no end , they take yuas you are and providing you got the right one they would just about die for you .
Aussie girl ohh great until your neighbour gets a $40 rise in pay and they jump the fence true.
might meet up in ukraine mate yes !!!!
Il pass though on the marriage thing mate why bother i can afford to go there 5 times a year at 1/2 months a stay -do me ay why make a minefield if you don't have to .
regards steve --ps iam amazed other aussies have been thier ??i cant honestly say ive ever met one over thier in 4 trips , regards steve .
Rubbish...the minimum standard of service for the Australian Embassy in Moscow to issue a Australian Fiance Visa ( known officially as a Prospective Spouse sub-class 300 visa ) is 7 months.
Visit the Australian embassy site in Moscow www.australianembassy.ru and it will tell you all you need to know.
Also visit DIMA Website(Department of Immigration of Multicultural Affairs) www.dima.gov.au
for Australia.
There is a minimum income requirement to "sponsor her" for a fiance visa (prospective spouse ) of $33,000 per annum before tax ( proven taxable income from ATO records ) for the last 2 years with no periods of unemployment or collection of centrelink benefits in that period of time or you will not qualify as her spouse to sponsor.
You can not have sponsored a previous foreign fiance within the last 5 years before the application and you can not have been married to more than 2 foreign brides in your lifetime or you will not qualify for it.
No immigration lawyer can fast track anything..these are the rules.
She must be of good character ( no criminal record for serious offence such as fraud, theft, drug use, prostitution or violent crime ) and be of good health ( have no medical conditions deemed by Australian authorities to be a signifacant cost on the health care system ) for if she does not meet these requirements to the satisfaction of the authorities she will never get a visa.
SHE WILL NEVER BE ISSUED WITH A TOURIST VISA FOR AUSTRALIA..FORGET IT..DOES NOT HAPPEN!
This is not simple process at all and money can not speed up or buy her way in.
You can not marry her in the Ukraine either.
That disqualifies you for a SUB-CLASS 300 VISA and it becomes a SPOUSE VISA which requires you to have lived with her for 12 months in her country and prove your ties in marriage emotionally and financially before she can apply for a "spouse visa" to Australia.
A lot of rubbish is peddled on this site by people who don't know.
I have actaully had a foreign wife and gone through the Australian fiance visa system myself a number of years ago..the only difference now is that it has become a lot harder to get a fiance visa and suceed and FSU girls are "red flagged" as potential immigraion scammers now because of widely media publicised stories of "immigration scmas involving FSU women" and these are more scrutinised and investigated than others and she will be interviewed ( I call it an interrrogation ) by immigration officers should she apply for an Australian Fiance Visa and you will be questioned as well.
Australia is a harder country than the United States to get one of these Russian etc. girls in!
ITS NOT BLOODY SIMPLE AT ALL!
bollicks aussieman tourist visa mate tourist visa --those requirments you say yes for fiance visa (but who wants to get married yuk ) tourist visa you can just about send your cat to the embassy with a note tied round his neck and he'l bring home the goods to you , tourist visa is walk in the park i got mine hear for 3 months last year it was all a yawn -she met all requirments and iam on 159k a year with business easy easy -you reading to many books mate ! true catagorie 3 country bit'o risk yes but my girl has been paris/ spain / london so if she was going to take off --she'd have been long gone by now they looked at her recent trips and said o her and me yup she's right --maybe i was just lucky i dont know but i never had any worries.
( yu watching the odessa file to much mate ) it was a good movie and may have been true in 1968 but its 2005 and i found it easy to get my girl hear . actually to easy i was waiting for the punch line / the catch if you like but it never emerged
regards steve48
ps mind you i would not wish to try get an older russian hear i do believe that could be a problem there is no poison pens anymore ! the cold war is over ! il bet anybody $1000 i can get my girl hear for another 3 months before march 30 2006 simple 48r tourist visa !but not to be confused with fiance visa ( nobody marries off this duck) why would yu want to get married ???? iam having to much fun !!! lol lol lol ----who's in for a gamble i love a punt --specialy when you know you will win .steve
She moves to a FSU country with a name ending in -stan, and she gets ID papers from there.
She tries to enter Australia illegally.
She gets deported to Nauru.
She appeals to New Zealand, and enters NZ.
She gets a NZ passport.
She follows the stampede of kiwis to Australia.
OH gawd ! kiwi's in australian --mein gott ! let me out ----friend of mine now retired proffesor gave a talk in adelaide year 2001 about the kiwi race it went sort of like this --along the lines of through hundreds of years the kiwi race has toiled and slaved , and amounted to 3/4 of 5/8th's of stuff all !
realated to them as being a race of south sea pomies amounting to ---zip ! they make up a vast section of australias DOLE community ! although there is always an upside! to all situations --tap a kiwi bird on the shoulder --and her pants il fall down lol lol aint it the truth --Its not thier 1Q they can sell --no advantages thier ! its not home assets ! they'd have little! - so the under skirt advantages is basicaly all that left !!--yes ohh well sux / bux 4 ux ! god elp em!! its no use us trying its all to late .
Stevo
I hope the average IQ in Aussi is not comparable to yours ??
You level of literacy and grammar is of a standard typical to those who founded the base population of the Australian community (banished Convicts from the mother land)
Anyway, you seem to have it all worked out. Just remember to drop this Forum a line when you get your 3 month Tourist Visa for you play thing !! -- OK
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"... Kiwis moving to Australia is a good thing.
It improves the IQ of both countries. ..."
Quite apart from what you are saying about the Australians, are you saying that the kiwis going to Australia are at the lower end of the IQ scale?
That could explain the opinion about kiwis in Australia!
By christ you people are opiniated and rude i try to help you imbasiles ! typical australia god help us and its no wonder the stats say that 37000 aussies bale out of the country for good every year --37000 smart people -one has to escape the ungratefull / the coons ( the useless ) the kiwis , but most of all the basterds whom think because one has email and computor one has the right to challenge / insult anybody .
I spend half my life trying to help what it appears to be --the ungratefull , we are fast becoming a nation of morons ( but of course this can largely be attributed to the influx of brain dead kiwis )
Combined with the politicaly correct do - wells ( they should all be tarred and feathered ) and pasted to a wall -- then shot .
My play thing you say --sorry feller iam a private person dont dare ever comment on my life --ive got news for your buddy if i got nothing else in this world , then thier is one thing i do have .
The fact that iam accountable to absolutely no basterd in this world .
that is a fact feller --i only try to help folks -but for that service hey ( i dont have to do it ) so there for iam accountable to nobody .
Mate life is about just a few things
(A) there is nothing in this world that cannot be done visas and all that crap --mate its all simple -----you just stand there and DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER ! from any of these bumbling seat warmers in embassies !( peasents / publick servants ) we pay thier wages ----boots on our foot they speak when spat it !
You maxirat obviously have an IQ OF 3 !!!
life / travel its all easy to work out --let me tell you what stuffs all this visa / can / do cant do is 90% pub talk --one guy looks up at a high building says to the crowd ohh look there is a guy up thier about to jump --hey within 15 minutes you have a crowd of 20 all pointing and believing they see a man ( hey there is nobody up thier )
ive heard all ther crap from both australia / overseas ohhhh it cant b e done this / that visa whatever --when you ask that person why --he points to the guy next to him
and he says ohh it cant be done because this guy from the bus stop told me so!!!!
HEY i tell you how much people know about anything --i went to RACV to get international drivers licence 2 years ago --do you know that in that office sat 5 girls and not 1 of them could tell me which side of the road that they drove on in russia --amazing huh but true --the few smart guys whom wish all the best and love to help (the largely down syndrome population hear ) are surrounded by morons .such as the RACV team they can sell you a licence for 22 bux -but they cant tell you which side of the road to drive on ?? --god help us -il be so glad when i sell up totally and move to russia / ukraine -ok its a dangerous joint its corrupt its this and that / but its full of lovely folks ( and there AINT NO DO- WELLS ) AND POLITICALY CORRECT IDIOTS ) nobody gives a toss where you smoke / where you drink / whom you run over that day ! etc its a rough and tumble lifestyle with life being barely worth $10 but by god at least you can see and read life's nasties in front of you .
You KNOW WHAT YOUR UP AGAINST FROM DAY 1 --sure i doubt a person id get past 66 --but i mean hey after 66 who cares your just a fizzled out burdon then anyway ??
A walking wreck --dry eyes and wet farts lol lol--
My literacy is just fine and grammer --but remember if it looks bad it is because i have to got down 14 levels to speak to you -on your level , otherwise you'd have to get a dicionary to know what i was on about --and when in rome do as the romans do - write with a lump of chalk and leave my parker pen at home .
GET A LIFE MATE YOU HAVE TO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS .
Stevo
We really appreciate you Australians looking after our unemployables. Big thanks, and you are welcome to the hoes that they take with them. Its a win win situation.
Whats the go with you Aussies not voting for NZ to host the Rugby World Cup, You voted for Japan, Whats that all about? Anyway we won the 2011 hosting rights without your help. Bad move, you guys will keep. I cant see Australia hosting anything significant in the future. Not in your lifetime.
you know this site like my mate just said to me --these sites must be full of lonely folk or something ?? maybe something in the water
Adman mate i know nothing about cricket but then looking at it well its like golf ( why would yu chase a ball ) about as interesting as watching grass grow no interest mate
to the guy above --hat size ETC ! ive no idea what your on about --but what i was leaning towards is iam a lucky bloke in one sence mate , i do certain historical work - lot of it for government classification its a certain field ok i wont go into it , but in life if you do a certain job and your in demand --and there aint got ANYBODY ELSE to replace you -which in my case they cannot --then in life you see you have the ACE CARD and you use that card like a gun to the head of govvy ( and dont i hate govvy ) to get what you need within reason --ahh the good side is they cant do without you ! you then become a non - dispensible ! = you are accountable to no basterd - of course if they rock your boat -you can down tools on em .. they have to come the grovel dont they , iam a must have .it took me 15 years to become that in a certain field ,
= you can be as cheeky as you like --------aint that grand .
they find it hard to live with you --but they cant do without you .
i know 4 others in aussie in my position dont they have some fun ,, you want you pay and plenty !!!
sad huh !
ADman i dont know about the unemployed kiwis --i dont know becomes of them in the end ??
like i say mate the cricket --id not give yu 2 bob for any of it --
same as football --3 footballers to 1 brain lol aint it the truth .steve
The "Historical Work" bit !!!
This wouldn't be proving to the Aussi Govt that you are living proof that Aborigines Fornicated with Kangaroo's -- would it ?????
You mention “we” have to much time on our hands ???
I think all that browse and contribute on here would have been thinking that this is the case with you. And I also think you might fall into the “lonely sad category” you mention above.