I find it hard to know how to act when some Russian women suddenly (very suddenly) change their minds about You. I have never experienced it with Danish women in such an extreme way. It seems that they get extremely tough (primitive) and show no mercy when they have decided not to be with You. And it seems that You can't change their minds no matter what you do.
I have tried to react in different ways.
Being polite and freindly - flowers, letters, gifts - but no help here !
Hard against hard - no help here !
Being both friendly but also a bit proud and determined - no help here !
Being very sad ! No help here.
Maybe a Russian woman in this forum can help me better to understand the mentality of some Russian women ??? (I am not only a polite man but also a very handsom man and I speak Russian well after 4 years stay in Russia.)
Hey, dear!
If somebody decides not to be with YOU it doesn't really mean they are primitive, could be otherwise could it?:))))
Well, if you're polite and extremely handsome,speak good Russian(you must be very clever) what's wrong with you then?
Are you short of money?culturally undeveloped?a complete failure?lack of sex drive?
The doctor needs to know more symptoms to make a diagnosis:)))
But generally speaking Russian women as Martin mentioned on this board are not so hungry (any more) to take whatever they are offered. PLZ no personal offence!
PS Just to cheere you up: there is saying "if your fiance left you for another guy it could be you who's lucky one not him":)))
Twin,
My experience with my former girlfriend from Kyiv was this . Very direct, very blunt with very sudden change in mood swings and a most terrible temper when she did not get her way. She could change from a very enjoyable woman to a angry bitch in a second .I am not taking any blame for this either. Most of the Ukrainians i was with were kind but had a very direct thought process with no variables and little ability to weigh options. Very cut and dry.
JMO, good to see you again. I will have to agree with you to an exception on a couple of things. Yes they are very direct and blunt, but I don't have the problem with the mood swings. So I am lucky with that. I think that is a cultural thing, also something I appreciate in Larissa. I would rather have her direct with me than beat around the bush. Also societal and cultural designs I think may have a bit to do with the ability to weigh options. For years their lives were very structured, very rigid. It will be interesting in January when Larissa arrives, how she adapts to a lifestyle that isn't so cut and dried.
twin,usually when somebody makes a sudden and irreversible change like you have mentioned,it is because they have another interest. In a real,ongoing physical relationship,this is often accompanied by mood reversal,sharp condescension,and verbal attacks. When an otherwise loving person takes this 360 degree swing,usually it means they are having an affair,or they need some Prozac. Been there more,and done that more than once.
Being a "nice guy" or too gentlemanly is often detrimental,and does not always work. I was with a woman like you describe,and overheard her on the telephone telling her mother that her new beau ( who nicknamed me "flower boy" because I was too giving of flowers ) would not allow her to play unfair,and this rough edge is what she needed. SHe loved me one day--then hated me the next. This really meant that she wanted a man who would put her in her place--whatever that means. A man who is handsome on the exterior,sensitive,but with a rough flair also, who is able to always take the lead,and tell her when she needs to stifle herself. It seems like too many contradictions!! I can tell you that being handsome and wealthy has little to do with anything. FSU female is right about one thing--being clever. There are actually men who pay to learn how to baffle with bullshit--which means being able to bust a woman`s chops in a way that disrupts her thought process and makes her curious about you. Any man can wisecrack a woman into complicity. It is not really even a matter of charm,but making her laugh-making her think. This shows you have thought about her! This goes both ways. FSU has done this by writing that "The doctor needs to know more symptoms to make a diagnosis:)))" Very cute,and very charming! And very clever. Is the doctor ( Doctor Love) still in? Because I would like to have her services also!!
Twin,
May I suggest you never ever EVER consider a career in sales?
It seems that dealing with rejection gives you a wee bit of a rough going, mate...
Move on, senor. The sooner the better.
There are plenty of women to choose from, but if you keep getting rejected over and over again, you may need to look in the mirror instead of trying to figure why THEY do not want you?
Makes sense?
Good luck to you.
There is a bunch of truth and good advice in this thread. I will throw in my 2 cents but first I need to try and sleep again. My sorry ass doesn't know if I am awake or dead!
It is just impossible to say what happened, without knowing some certain situation...so if there is an example, then I personally will be able to say something usefull:)
Sounds like bi-polar disorder. FSUfemale. You made the comment. Are you short of cash. Is this to suggest a woman that is into you may stop if you are strapped form time to time?
Enscribe that saying on the walls of your bedroom. Make it your personal motto. Keep it at the bottom of your business card :)
When a girl says no, just leave. Quickly! Make it look like you don't care. 'Oh well, you don't want me? Fine, I still have some time for another date tonight" Look at your watch. Smile. Kiss her good bye. And walk off.
Actually, if you do that she might even change her mind about your and call you back the next day or sooner. Being polite, hard or sad does nothing - as you've already noticed.
My experience, I dating a girl from Russia for 4 years, traveling back and forth a couple times a year, speaking on the phone 5 or 6 days a week, emailing daily, all seemed fine and we were in love or so I thought....She always said she would move to the US to marry me, she actually went to school in the US. After a year fighting the US government to get the fiancé visa, it was approved, as soon as she had the visa her entire mood and attitude changed, avoided my phone calls, would not answer emails and finally nothing....
.....changed her mind....why? to this day, I have no idea, maybe she found a Russian man? Maybe she decided she didn't love me? Maybe she could not leave Russia to live in the US? Maybe she lost her mind? I do not know.....but I do know that the mood changed over night....
Seriously i have a question.. Does anyone have a good story to tell about russian woman .. Has 1 relationship worked beyond 5 years? none of this "i just got the visa" thing... Do they last ? seems to me only bad experiences... And people like Martin the pom brainwashing
I beleve its hard for a russian girl to leave her country move away from her friends, and live in a country that works oposite to their own,and the way they work and do things is very strange and slow,
I find it hard going everytime I come back here, anything that needs to be done here is a real pain !
This is proberbly the main reasons for them not staying abroad for long, also in the US I beleve you still have the 90 days to get married or get out ?
which is crazy,
even more so when you have proberbly only spent a couple of weeks with her 2 0r 3 times while you are trying to get the visa,
its not hard to see why so many relationships fail,
The guys that live accross here seam to have a better chance of sucess,
and if it all starts to go wrong, you wont be lonly for very long !
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