Im thinking about going on a tour. I was always against it in the past but now I am starting to reconsider since I have just about lost any trust with an agency, or girls with private emails. Anyone have good experience with this? Also anyone whos been, who would you recommend. I'e already checked the archives here and other forums, checked websites of those who conduct tours, but I would like to hear from someone who went recently. Thanks
Work out what they charge for a tour, what is included, and work out how much it would cost to do it yourself.
When I looked at these tours, some years back, they include air travel, as an instance, from/to JFK, what frigging use is such air travel from/to JFK for a non North American?
More recently, from the work my wife does, there is a Western European agency charging Euro 7000 for a 10 day trip to Ukraine.
Well the air fare, let us say, is 600 Euro, accommodation 10 nights @ 60 Euro = 600 Euro, airport transfers in Ukraine 100 Euro, interpreter, 10 days @ 70 Euro = 700 Euro, that comes to 2000 Euro, where do you think the remaining 5000 Euro is ending up?
too true a tour brings all the sharks out from every cornner, and some of the agencys even pay for models to turn up to make it look better, and of corse they can aford to pay for them, lets face it 10 guys 200 girls its a joke, bit like a cattle market,
if anyone is that despaerte go down river palace or mullar bar in Kiev and you will take a stunner home for $100 and you can do what ever you want to her !
and next morning she goes no problems no expensive presents !
down here its nearer 100 grn !
actually its 300 a day for airfare, accomadations, food, an opportunity to meet some other guys on the same quest. seeing a different part of the world. its basically a vacation BUT with an opprtunity to meet beautiful women from that part of the world.
what u say is in your own twisted mind. i guess you would be the one looking for a whore. what a twisted person with a sad point of view. I feel sorry for you and your failures in life to have that point of view. stop being mad at the world and be happy your alive and healthy.
Please, the unpleasant people have left this forum, let's talk realistically.
If you were to write to some ladies in advance, perhaps from the same city, then you could meet each of them, one on one, and it would just be you and her in perhaps a candlelit restaurant.
If you meet within a group of men, and indeed ladies, you might be one guy amongst a hundred, it's all very well meeting other guys but this is a 'dog eat dog' world and whilst you may stand there chatting, they may be busy snapping up the best looking girls.
I admit I've never been on a tour, I've always travelled and met ladies independently and informally, not as if it may be a business transaction.
If you were to travel independently the airfare may be USD1000, 11 nights accommodation maybe USD660, airport transfers USD40, that would leave you USD1600, approximately 50% of the cost of a tour and out there you can do a hell of a lot with USD1600.
What Chrisc4 said was somewhat tongue in cheek, he didn't mean it literally but, like me, he can't understand a guy spending USD3300, twice as much as he needs to pend, on a week and a half in FSU.
i agree it is a little pricey i suppose, and i never have been on one and who knows if i will go yet. its still just a thought.
but i look at it this way, its like whenever i go to vegas. if you cant afford to lose it then you definitly shoulnt consider putting the money up- if that makes any sense, lol
Tours are expensive and they have a profit margin built into that price. That's business. If your a newbie then I would recommend a tour. You can meet a lot of good interpreters and create a network for any future trips to the Ukraine. You can also meet a lot of guys just like you on the tour. I have made some good new friends along the way. I know travel and meet up with them in the Ukraine from time to time. It's good to have a wingman.
well im not new to this Ive been to Russia 4 times, I'm just weighing some options at this point before I committ to one or two women again. Deciding to go through this all again kind of sucks but after dating a few local women Ive decided to give this another try
Romance Tours work. And the idea is a great one.
Its an especially good idea whn new to this entire -which, I realize, you are NOT, but its a great idea for ANY man that wants to meet great women - without the hit and miss of letter writing.
The women KNOW that you are interested, and they are certainly interested as well. There IS SOMETHING about being competed over by 200 of the most beautiful women you've ever laid eyes on. Many have gone through a lot of trouble to be there and they want the prize - which is YOU.
I HIGHLY recommend a Romance Tour. I worked with European Connections - but I also understand that A Foreign Affair is quite good.
There is another agency that I had some contact with in Odessa where a PRIVATE TOUR is available. They provide the apartment the driver, the interpreter and as many introductions as you need to be "in love". The women on his website are exclusively signed - and all personally interviewed by Frank - the owner, who is an American. I beleive his website is www.ukrainebride(s).com (either with or without the "s" I don't recall). I've considered using his services as weel.
Don't let the nay-sayers here deter you. The Romance Social I went to was "the time of my life."
Marty CLAIMS to be married to an FSU woman who still lives in Ukraine. Martin, is she AWARE that you two are supposedly married? Or is this also a figment of your twisted little mind?
I think that everyone who reads this forum is aware by now, that Marty is a kook. That she might still live in Ukraine, lends SOME credibility to the idea that there IS actually a woman that Marty might be involved with (as it is quite doubtful that anyone could actually LIVE with a nutcase like him) but I have very strong reservations.
The internet world works well for Marty because he can do whatever he wants will little accountability.
I have to believe that in real life he is a timid little man who lives his fantasies almost exclusively on the internet and that 98% of what he claims in this forum is all in his warped little mind.
Enough said Marty - you are not worth wasting any more time on.
To wtrav02 - kindly note, I have not sworn that I will not waste any more time on Marty. I merely mention that he is not worth wasting time on NOW.
"The women KNOW that you are interested, and they are certainly interested as well. There IS SOMETHING about being competed over by 200 of the most beautiful women you've ever laid eyes on. Many have gone through a lot of trouble to be there and they want the prize - which is YOU"
Ok cmon jetmba... Not you as well... We have enough naive men here as it is like Martin
Do you honestly think these 200 woman are competing???? Mate lets get serious. Most of the stunning woman at tours are paid models who are there to make it look glamorous..
Ive never been on a tour but this is what many agents told me.. And at the end of the day look at the photos from these tours... 60 year old men with sexy slim woman in their arms
Its bloody embarrassing... I think its time some facts are revealed in these forums its becoming a joke