forum Noob here (well this forum anyway) First of all can I say having spent the last day reading countless posts on here that it is refreshing to find a forum where (most of the time) people actually try to answer the thread question. So lets see if that continues :-)
Brief potted history, emailed a few girls, narrowed the search criteria down to one, went to Kyiv and met her, great time had by all, and am now going back for second visit next Monday. I talked to her about trying to get a visitor visa for her to come here for a few weeks to see how she likes living with me (rather than being just on holiday with me). She has been doing some homework in the Ukraine and has had the fear of God put into her by various people she has spoken to who say that there is no way under the sun that she will be granted a visitor visa and and she is terrified that this will make it really difficult for her to get any visa in the future.
I've been doing my homework and she meets all the criteria, I will be her sponsor and can support her while she is here without recourse to public funds. She will not work while she is here. Obviously the big stumbling block is whether the ECO belives she will return to Ukraine after her visit. She is 29, divorced and unfortunately (fortunately?) of a marriageable age (which I have seen is one of the main reasons quoted on refusals). She has a son (9 years old) who will be staying with her ex-husband if she comes here for a visit. Now I think this is a very good piece of evidence pointing to her willingness to return to Ukraine at the end of her trip. In addition she has worked at the same company for 7 years and will have all relevant supporting documentation. What do you guys think? Answers based on factual experience will be greatly appreciated (I reserve the right to dismiss "opinions" based on conjecture)
Only joking guys :-) anything anyone has to say will be appreciated.
Visitors visa not impossible but EXTREMELY difficult to obtain,I can understand your reasoning in thinking that you will be sponsor your lady during her stay here,but most of the time consulate officials think somehat differently.
Bear in mind that even if you apply for a fiance visa and do not marry during that time (6 months),there are no rules stating that you cannot apply for a second visa.
You have some experience of being with your lady even thought that may be only for a short time and quite rightly want her to test the water over in your country,but having been along that route,from a similar position as yuor self I would advise you to take the fiance visa route,much easier,a lot less complicated for both of you,and also with the option of trying again.
Feel free to e-mail me off forum if you need more specifics,
if you are applying for a visitors visa do not even mention anything about seeing if she likes living with you,that alone will be enough for them to say no!
I got a 6 month multi entry visa on the day for my girl friend, we had very few documents with us, as we had just come back from a 3 nonth trip to Thailand and Malyasia and the previous year been to Egypt together so the chances of her returning was prity good, although she had no job at the time,
you will find it easyer to get a fiance visa than a visitors visa, and if she wanted to stay she could or returing later would be straight forward,
although she has had the same job for 7 years I am shore her salary wont be that big that she has to return to continue ?
as long as she keeps to the truth and does not say what she thinks is best, as this often happens she should be ok,
you can get a letter from a notory solicitor in the UK that he will fill in, basicly saying that youwill pay for everying and how much fund you have, also which is important in the embassy's views is it it mentions things like death and transporting the body back to her country, it all sounds pritty grusome but its what they like to read and cost about £50, its all bull shit but that is what these embassy's are all about !
It can be done but the odds are against you. I even did it once with a lady I had not, at that time, met and whilst her visa was approved it was such a stressful experience that I would not recommend it to anyone, indeed I would deter them.
The biggest, indeed perhaps the only, concern the authorities have is that you will get married during the term of the visa, they don't have a problem with you getting married but, stiff upper lip and all that, you must do it on the correct type of visa.
I would suggest an, up to, 6 month 'settlement' visa (otherwise known as a fiancee visa), then you are being up front with the authorities that you hope to marry during the term of that visa and if you don't well so be it, she goes home again and then you try again with the next lady.
Trust me, a settlement visa is much easier than a tourist visa because, in the eyes of the consulate, you are being up front and honest with them.
Thanks for the feedback guys. One last question: Isn't there an expectation that we should at least be engaged before she applies for a Fiance Visa? Or is it badly named? (or am I just too old fashioned :-)?