Thatís right, 19 years of age. I know the common myth is older Western men are searching for younger Russian girls and that girls seeking a Western Partner are searching for maturity and security and I am very aware that there are certain truths to this. I however am only 19 and enlisted in the US military and in the middle of a four year degree working on my commission. Iím riding on tuition assistance and the GI bill to essentially fund my education but get paid enough for a single guy to travel and live a fairly comfortable life. I know Russian girls naturally marry young reckless men their own age but I know this isn't necessarily the case for girls seeking a Western partner. I also know that being a soldier is not necessarily a respectable job in many parts of the former Soviet Union. I grew up around Russian girls and have much respect for them and am genuinely interested in starting a relationship with one through an agency. I guess what I want to know is if my current situation is frowned upon and if my efforts at seeking a partner through a Russian agency will be futile. I am not desperate however I am very eager but I know with time comes more wisdom and stability. I just donít want to wait.
Actually Eudes, something that you might also want to consider is getting your petition through USCIS if you did find a lady. There are minimun income requirements and they will certainly look at your age. They might not reject because of your age but they could certainly delay...delay...delay until one of the two of you just give up. As far as could you find a lady...who knows, there are many different personalities, different wants and desires. I don't think there is a concrete answer to your question.
Thank you Bill for your quick reply. I've just read through I-129F and no where is anything about my income mentioned or asked for. This information can no doubt be aquired with my SIN or even my name but again I can not find any information regarding income requirements on the USCIS website that pertain to I-129F. I'm not doubting you, the requirement is logical but I'm interested in where you have ran across it.
QuietCharm, I joined the Army for adventure and am sitting on the edge of an up and coming deployment. I need Romance! Backbacked through Europe at 16 and got the T-Shirt what I need is une femme! I'm willing to wait which is why I'm asking if there is any fruit in my basket now.
You will be required to send a notarized USCIS form I-134 to your fiance for her interview at the embassy. This is an affidavit of support. Supporting documents will have to accompany it, IE: W-2s and a letter from your employer stating position in the company etc. If you are self employed the most recent copy of your tax return will be required.
Again, thanks a lot Bill. You are an asset. I already figured as much and have read the form. I donít recognize any minimums though, merely the fact that I have to provide sustenance. It is something that needs or should be assessed on an individual bases but a ballpark figure to say the least would be comforting.
That I cann't help you with. I am self employed and didn't have any concerns in that area. I do know it is a moving target based on family size, whether or not there is an adjustment for geographical location I couldn't tell you. You might try e-mailing the embassy that you think you will be dealing with. Kyiv, Moscow, Etc. I believe they are the ones who make the decision. My experience with the embassy in Kyiv is that thay answer e-mails no later that the second day.
I anticipated as much. Iíve been in contact with several embassies in Eastern Europe, their availability and services make me proud (Iíve previously applied to work for the State Department before joining the Defense Department.) Youíve raised a humbling awareness; Iíll transcribe after the holiday and post my findings.
I am new to Fiancť forum and this is my first response to any discussion. I was in the military and I wish you good fortune with your military career. I have been writing to FSU women for 2 years and I have made many mistakes writing to women, believe this. Itís been expensive, Iíve even been successfully scammed for $1,900. I have taken the time to learn about Russian women, culture, etc. I come from a point of view as a Christian so I may have a different slant than other forum participants. I am in the process of learning the fiancť/marriage/visa process myself. I have learned that being in the military will not disbar you to qualify. There is an income requirement for a guy to bring a fiancť to the US. For a single woman to come to the US it is $13,500 yearly income. With each additional child the income requirement increases. As to your age, I absolutely do not know. If judgment is discretionary then a document reader may have some prejudice but this is only my opinion. My advice that you is to take some time as I have, get to learn the women, culture and what this marriage/visa thing is all about. You have lots of time to do the research and decide.
Check www.visajourney.com as there is a good forum there answering this question as well as providing much more information. Even if you do not qualify with your income you can have a cosponsor such as one of your parents.
One bit of advice from a guy several years older with a lot of experience.....DON'T BE IN SUCH A HURRY TO GET MARRIED. You are still very young and should enjoy your life and explore the world some. Plenty of time for getting married in the future. Trust me on this!
Thanks Donnie. On the contrary I'm learning that there are great benifits for military men and their spouses from foreign lands (especially if I get killed which wont do me much good but being military assures USCIS that she will be covered and not dumped on the state should something happen to me.)
I am Christan Orthodox myself and you being prior service I'm sure we meet eye to eye on a lot of this. $1,900 sounds like it hurts and so does 2 years. I admire Russian woman, grew up with several first generation Russian-Americans, even the prospect of living in Russia further encourages me (hence why I wanted to work for the State Department.) I speak three languages and have thought about taking advantage of the Army courses in Russian. I'm not looking for an easy fix, sex, or a warm bed. In fact I'm "seeing" an American girl right now but she's not what I want, she's not the first, and its only going to last nine more days! I intended to return to Eastern Europe when I got the chance anyway but the more research on agencies I did the more appealing it has become.
$13,500 is do-able, may I ask where you came by this number?
"Plenty of time for getting married in the future. Trust me on this!"
Thats what I told my parents about finishing my degree ;)
I'm not in a hurry to make a mistake I can assure you that! I've seen London, I've seen France, and I've been in my share of state patrol cars - I know what I want now and I'm going for it no questions asked. If I come back here in ten years because I'm wrong you can have the keys to my car.
There are plenty of anecdotes in this forum, just got to wade through lots of unrelated treacle.
Is it futile? Some have had success, some failure. No-one can predict the future. You can use the agencies to plan trips, attend socials and setup meetings or you set off on your own and wing it, once you have a girl's contact details.
I recently travelled through 12 countries from Portugal up to Russia over a 4 month period, observing the people along the way. It wasn't until I hit Russia that the women just blew me away.
I spent 3 months in Moscow and St.P and met several ladies. On one 2 week trip, I met just one lady, from Anapa, in Moscow, after weeks of corresponding and voice conversations. I knew immediately on meeting, it wouldn't work out and had agency details, as a Plan B, to fall back on and set up other meetings. I paid for the agency to arrange the meetings, rather than paying for phone numbers because the girl may have been out of town, may not speak good English, may not be able to get to the phone. Also no meeting, no payment! So, it is worth the extra $10 or so to have them arrange the meeting. I also went through the agency books of girls, which was more useful than the web sites, since they were more current and I also asked the agency people for their personal opinion about a lady. The odd red flag was raised.
I met one girl, not through agencies but Friendfinder, in St.P, which led to a 6 week passionate affair. I'm 48, she was 32, with a child. We still write and she is like no other woman I have ever met. However, great sex doth not a marriage make. Many middle-aged men fall simply for the lure of young, eager and apparently willing flesh, the like of which they haven't encountered in many a year (or ever) and lose their perspective along with some basic common sense.
I'm interested to hear more of your experience of the Americanised Russians you know. How long have they been in the States? Are they all still married? Happily? What is it that appeals to you about them? Have they become as materialistic and dissatisfied as AW?
Don`t belittle yourself because your are in the service .Many Soviet women`s fathers or family were in the service so i feel they might relate towards you. Many women identify towards their potential spouse through what their own fathers did for a living if oit is put in front of them. You have a very honorable occupation . It is a step or career to build your life . My question is this , why go to a marriage agency if you claimed you have been around or are accustomed to being around FSU women. I don`t trust agency`s from my experiences . Go there on your own . Traveling to the former FSU for love and romance i am sure is more accomodating than bootcamp and several tours of duty. You can handle it.............
Family Size 100% of Povery line 125% of Poverty line
2 $12830 $16037
3 $16090 $20112
The information came from the United States Immigration website. 100% of the poverty line would affect active duty military personnel and 125% reflects what the rest of us must use to qualify. Also personal assests are taken into consideration. The caveat to this is, even if you would divorce after two years you have an obligation of five years that she will not become a public charge. Good luck in your quest and thanks for serving our country!
Iím a wing it kind of guy, I donít fancy other people dictating my itinerary (unless he outranks me of course) especially when I travel. Not only is it cheaper - I get to ďplough my own furrowĒ as you would like to say. I envy you for your recent trip, it sounds very interesting to say the least.
Iím not after a sexual affair or any sort of sexual fulfillment. However my sister is two kids ahead of me and I wouldnít mind playing catch-up. Her husband has the same job as me however instead of jumping out of planes heís a tank gunner. Sheís an unemployed house wife yet they manage to live rather comfortably on his income alone.
In regards to Americanized Russians wellÖ needless to say they are Americanized. Seattle for whatever reason is a very natural spot for many Russian immigrants. My block and school were no exception to the influx. I had several exchange students pass through my classrooms in college, the affects my society had on them became noticeable almost immediately. For lack of a better word I suppose you can call it white-washing. When they start to smile at you and wear sweatpants you know somethingís awry! But many Russian girls for whatever reason (parents, self respect, I donít know) tend to stick to their orthodox ways and retain much of their culture, edict, and mannerisms which though not always displayed in public are clearly visible in the home. I know itís not right to generalize but to hell with it, Russian girls are just more mature and feminine than most girls of my pill-popping-MTV-generation (even when compared to Western European girls who many claim are godsends to man and earth) Iíve never dated an American girl who was my age, they have always been older and itís no coincidence.
I never thought about it that way in regards to my occupation but you do have a point. To answer your question - a marriage agency is all the more direct than me throwing a backpack on my back again to running off to Eastern Europe to find a girl. I think it is a healthy way to streamline the process in helping two people find each other. I no longer live in Seattle where I have a constant exposure to the girls I knew, Iím merely home for the holiday before I drop off the radar for six months. Iím not worried about going to Russia, it sounds fun but is reminiscent of my shenanigans in Western Europe in which one can easily find love but only for the night! Iíd like to develop some contacts and a relationship before I buy a train ticket so I can plan my mission essential task list ;) It would sure be nice to have a lady to write to in the meantime though! But I believe Iíll pick this up again next fall after further research and when Iím more available.
My experiences with e-mailing and others here will tell you are horrendous. You just don`t know if she is the one writing . Many have come to the conclusion that e-mailing is a complete waste of time. Most guys here will tell you to just pick a good agency that men here can recommend to you and just show up at their door.
Eudes just go there dude! When you see and meet the women of Russia or Ukraine you will travel no where else again. Even though I have not found my future wife yet it sure is fun trying and each trip I make I say money well spent! Go have fun and maybe you will fall in love. If not you will have the time of your life. That I promise.