Hi....it depends on where you want to get married or not. There is a de facto visa if you have been living together for 12 months.....but thats not your case. You can get married there (or in Australia if you can get her a Fiancee visa in the first place). It is not easy, but it will happen?!?!?! Provided you have proof that the relationship is genuine. What is proof????Proof of your visits, proof in the way of your love letters (all of them not just one or two), phone bills showing frequent calls to her, photos of you both together, with her family, copies of all emails, photos and videos of the wedding....in other words "Drown them with proof!!!!" This may sound a bit radical but, believe me, the Department of Immigration has been known to make some bizarre decisions. I have known of men who were told at the initial application interview that they did not need to give the folder of evidence at the time of application..... a week later they received a letter refusing their visa application due to lack of supporting evidence!!!! A spouse visa application is not cheap.....make sure all the evidence is supplied at the time of the application....don't take no for an answer. Be prepared to wait for 6 months, it can be longer. They will do the usual security checks through ASIO and a medical check as well.....provided she has not robbed a bank, has no contageous diseases and your relationship is genuine, there should be no problems. As a guide, you should start collecting all the relevant documents now.......birth certificates, marriage certificates, criminal records check (there is guidance for this on the Australian Dept of Immigration website www.immi.gov.au.) Marriage and birth certificates for her parents as well. There is no Australian Embassy in the Ukraine so you will probably have to lodge it in Russia. It will probably take as much time for a Fiancee visa as it would for the spouse visa so you may wish to be married there...at least her family can come and yours too (if they have the resources?!?!?).....of course remember that if you are married under the law of another country, getting a divorce in Australia later may not be that straightforward.....as you are married under the law of another country (I hope you would not get divorced at all but as a lawyer, I am trying to let you make an informed decision). The Australian family Court can handle the application of course, but if there is a dispute over the separation a juridictional issue may arise....for more information see a family lawyer. Anyway, you are probably not thinking of divorce right now!!! When your visa is granted, it will be a provisional spouse visa. That is the Immigration Department will check in about 18 months, by sending a letter to your home address, to see whether you are still together before finally giving her permanent residency. WHATEVER YOU DO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE YOUR CURRENT ADDRESS AT ALL TIMES. If you miss this letter, they can decline her application for permanency and she will become illegal when her provisional visa expires.....I have had clients whose mother-in-law failed to give this letter to the husband. The next thing that happened was that Immigration were seeking to deport the wife!!! If you don't get this letter, ring up and inquire at your local office of immigration, keep them updated. When you apply for the spouse visa, you will apply for both visas at the same time....the provisional visa and the permanent one. The permanent one will not be issued for 2 years as discussed provided you are still together. OK, congratulations, it sounds a bit daunting but when she is here in 6 months I am sure you will think its all worth it!! there is an active Ukrainian community in Australia as you may know and plenty of cultural events for you both to be involved in......if I can be of any further help, put something on the bulletin board or email me!!
My experience with the Australian authorities is that they will not grant a visa no matter what you do. They do not apply the legal standards that they say that adhere to. I think that you should stop wasting your time. Australia will not let her in.
85% of fiance/spouse visas will get rejected by the Australian embassy in Moscow, which is the only post in the whole of the Former Soviet Union, that handles immigration applications.
There is an avenue of appeal with the Migration Immigration Review Tribunal(MIRA)if your girls visa application is rejected but its very expensive at around $2500 for hearing application fees and hearing can take 6 months or more to be heard and you will need a good migration lawyer to represent your case ( so even much more money, like $2000 or more for his fees ) as its too difficult do your own case representation and not advised.
For the whole of the former Soviet Union, only 478 visas were granted out of the annual quota of 5000 fiance visas in 2003 and Russian/former CIS country women rank 5th in popularity for immigation applications.
Approximately 3,000 men applied for a faince visa for an FSU girl in 2003 and rejection rate very high.Rejection was often "lack of proof or evidence of a relationship" despite a ton of evidence in most cases.
Australian authorities do not want to let these girls in and will fail applications for the very smallest of reasons they can find and then all the bureacracy and red tape starts and getting an appeal is bloody hard and success next to impossible.
No Russian/Ukrainian/former CIS country woman will ever get a visitors visa to Australia..it just wont happen.
Have a very big bank account, be earning way above the average wage of $40,880 per annum and have a lot of time to spend on it and wait and wait and in the end you will probably get nothing for it but be older and more lonely.
The FSU mail order bride dating game is not recommended for Australians because of our draconian immigration authority and rules!
I agree with all this.Fiance visas are doomed. You would have to have at least 2 trips and spend $20000
what do you think about the new skilled labor visa? lets say your Russian girl is english speaking at a good level... She applies under the skilled labor system .. translator is one of the listed jobs on the skiller labor visa... Ok heres the risk but hey you will spend this anyway on trips and fiance visas. Youi give your girl $5000. You tell her to shut up to the authorities and that you dont exist at all... If they ask where the money came from she can say family etc... Point... How can they knock her back???
Dazza gotta warn you if you live in Australia be careful I found one spent 7000 on phone calls and than she asked for money but I sent her over 2000 as she sent me presents and rang me too after iu came there in jan 2000 i found they had outstanding phone bills i paid .bought food etc I noticed the parents pushing for us to stay together though i saw she was immature and her grandmother telling me to hit her a little with belt as Russian women like a Real man (trick) first sign they know about Domestic violence laws really well and they can play the Bi Sexual game too. Some in legal Aid will help them for sponsorship if she does a runner or applies for DVO (domestic Violence as mine did when i discovered her tubes were tied (this is not an immigration Criteria) be careful don't trust the doctors when they tell you she can fall pregnant , if she cannot possibly tubes tied if young and good looking like mine. She ran off from the gynaecologist near amost two years and than got a freind to kick her shins and got Domestic violence , you will go to court and llose they get them easily and they know the game,but than mine lost her passport twice( worth ten thousand on russian black market) and when she escaped i was asked to sign paper to send her back and showed evidence she was engaged in lesbian act but i did not sign as they thought and a lesbian in legal Aid sponsored her! she has since gone back had her tubes untied and had a child with another guy possible Russian here ,
they used a black tablet to drug me and I stayed there six months second time organising visas cost me over 50,000 and court here