First of all, on the Moldovan visa post, I am an Australian and working in Denmark right now. There is no embassy in either Australia or Denmark, but going by some posts that is not important, so should I expect no problems if I just arrive and purchase a visa?
Now my real reason for posting. Since going to Russia in November 2004, I have been interested in going back and only late last year signed up here to talk to some of the women. But I am know finally organising my trip and I plan to take 9 days to see as much as I can and also meet some of the beautiful women I have been talking to. But while it seems that most of you guys go to only 1 city, do you think there would be any problems in attempting to arrive at Kiev and then travel down to Odessa (Nikolaev), Crimea and leave from Moldova?
And about travelling between the cities, how would you recommend it? I was reading the Lonely Planet guide for young travellers like me, and they say that trains are fine, and that 2nd class can infact be safer as you are not sharing with a single person! But then reading posts here, people say to never go by train .... so just wondering what the current opinion is! Oh, and being a traveller before, I think it is best to just organise my travel schedule once I am there, but is that possible in places like Ukraine and Moldova, or should I really try and organise tickets for trains, flights, etc beforehand?
Now, if only I can book some airfares and get time off work :)
Matt
Oh, and I realise that as I am not an EU citizen or North American I need a visa for Ukraine. I just wish the Copenhagen embassy was open for more than 4 hours a few days a week, as its impossible to get there to find out whats required :(
I took the train once from Kiev to Donetsk. Once! The train was nice enough and I traveled with my eventual wife, but I really wouldn't recommend it. Definately get a cabin by yourself. Take no food or drink from anyone. It may be overkill, but you'll arrive safely. The train from Kiev to Donetsk took 12 hours overnight for a 1 hour+ flight; not really worth it. There are better ways to spend your time.
I would also organise what you can before you go. Prices tend to go up, once they know who you are.
Seems like you'll loose a couple of days traveling between cities. If your whole trip is only 9 days that'll cut it down to 6 or 7. You'll have two days in each city. What's the point in that?
For nine days I'd say just shoot for two cities. Why not fly into Odessa, go to Crimea, and leave out of Odessa?
Good idea, but I also have to see Kiev, especially since I may be able to accept a traineeship offer there once I finish in Denmark at the end of the year. I'd want to see it before accepting, if it does come through :)
But I will have to think about it, maybe could do another trip later, or just recall my Contiki experience from last year with 2 days in every city ... ;)
Anyway, looks like the train would be a problem, mainly for the time. So I would appreciate it if you could tell me some of the airlines you normally use within Ukraine? Then I can try and get everything planned beforehand :)
just returned latest trip 4 days back man it is freezing over there at present - trains are ok --forget the ( box kite's ) planes --wright brothers are dead ! ohh train or car mate ( lot of folks talk of train / plane ) do as i did buy a decent volga car leave it at girlfriends place --simple !! id never train it / plane it when yu can drive --carefull on trains few unsavouries on thier the guy going for 9 days no mate iam an aussie too yu need a day to oriantate yourself when thier yu lose a day either way or more in travel .go for 15 days minimum enjoy yourself --scammers no just girls with not much money ! i think i gave awau $20,000 AUD LAST GEW TRIPS who cares its only money and the old boilers in aussie il take off yu 10 fold its a nice place russia / ukraine people more earthy and loyal than the filthy old tripple chin couch spuds you end up with here .take some warm gear with you .
stevo 48
to scammers ukraine i found was 20 times worse than russia calls for caution for sure - lugansk id aviod like the plague --odessa hmm so / so give the agencies the flick --they never got me from day 1 just head out and meet your own girls as we do in aussie --its like a resume an agency --resume useless its like reading from a script take folks as you find em , if you got good line of common sence scammer stands out for miles -----dont believe all the ''danger danger crap yu hear - ive just finished my 5th trip --and i take all aussie attributes with me including wearing my aussie army slouch hat --no bugger ever worried me actually i found by and large they could not do enough for yu --i do believe though that aussies going to / having been to russia are in a very very tiny monority ( why this is ive no idea as in all my trips i cant say i ever met an aussie over there ) and yanks and poms well all those i met in 5 trips i could scratch all thier names addies on the back of gigarette packet ,i dont honestly believe there would have 4 full size bus loads aussies been thier in total in last 12 years . everywhere i got yu know head into tourist info joints in like petersburg , moscow - tell em your an aussie they just about want to pinch yu see if yu real .
langauge is the big nasty --real worry that id like $10 for everybody ive met there who could not speak english bloke id be a millionaire ----i think i found enough who spoke english in 5 trips combined to fill a phone box that would be it though .
take care the bloke going on trip take lots a warm gear to , stevo 48
TO; maccamlc99
Not too sure where the box kites are flying these days, although on my first trip in '91 I did fly in an old 20 seater prop job to Simferopol. Mind you, the guy was one of the best pilots I'd seen anywhere, he was ex airforce. The airline I use now is AeroSvit which use all modern 737's for short to medium haul and 767's for long distance. Excellent, clean and for the cheap fares, the food is also okay. They even have a frequent flyer program. Check their website and you can book on-line, good luck. By the way, if you are travelling short distances, say to Chernigov (2 hours) or Sumy (4 hours) then the best cheapest and most comfortable are the new airconditioned Mercedes 12 seater Mini buses. Around $5 to $10 and you don't have to work your way through the maize of queues at Kyiv Central Station. Vasya
You don't have enough days to visit all those places. Like the other guy said. Pick two places and go from there. If you have other ladies in those small towns then invite them to meet you in Kiev or Odessa. Both cities are the cream of Ukraine when it comes to entertainment and fun. All ladies would love to go to Kiev or Odessa. Kiev is the New York and Odessa is the Miami of Ukraine. If they have the time and the means they will meet you there.
yes vasya the planes reminded me something out of indiana jones lol but you are right top pilots ( they have to be to compensate for flying those junkers ) yes good idea deano get em to come to you ( if they are dinkum they will ! if not its back to the bickie barrel pick out a few more lol ) kiev id have to say was the only place i felt need to be on my gaurd a bit , odessa yes really does have attributes looking like miami a bit its a great place folks thier i found were tad more opened up than kiev .but yes guy you really should go id say minimum 16 plus days 3 weeks if you can afford --otherwise yu know 8/9 days nar you'l get nothing done in that time .
you will just unpacked the bags ( have yu first two pair of knickers in the draw ) and you'l be gettin ushered back on the plain --hey dress like a snow man this time of year though . its a cold unlike anything else --tends to wreck yu day when yu take a leak and it freezes before it hits the ground ! i really dont know how any human can ever say they can climatise to 25/ 30 below nup sorry --its got advantages though yu girl il just want to stay in bed all day --you'l have to be thier two --ohh i could think of worse ways to go hmmmm.
man does not live by bread alone. freeze to death tangled up betwixed the ''lovely '' ohh what a shame lol man has to go out with a ''bang'' steve.