Last week I am considering how I can get to Kiev, Odessa, Crimea and Moldova in 9 days. Well now it is 10 but with a little advice and research that still is just physically impossible :)
So I have decided to spend 5 days in both Kiev and Odessa, and I plan to meet a number of nice girls. I am 23 years old, 24 in 2 weeks and serious about meeting that right woman for me and getting the whole process rolling. I really only became interested in FSU girls when I was in Russia in 2004. But I never pursued that interest until I knew I would be in Europe this year, as from Australia it would be so much more difficult.
Anyway, my question to you guys is what do you aim to accomplish from the first meeting? ... I guess that I want to know she is the one for me, and then be encoraged to start the process of applying when I return! But also given that I am in the EU for at least this year ... and possibly even able to live and work in Kiev for a few months later this year (I know probably in the winter if it happens), is it actually possible for someone from the Ukraine to easily travel to a country like Denmark? That way we could spend more time together before undertaking the long process of applying for visas in Australia!
Oh, and any advice on what type of visa to apply for with Australia and how to go about it, would also be appreciated :)
So if in approximately 9 days you are planning to meet a number of nice girls then one may estimate that you plan to occupy approximately 1.5 days with each, perhaps two lunch dates and one dinner date.
Are you seriously suggesting that after such a short time together you will both know each other well enough for you to consider the visa process thereafter and indeed that she knows you well enough to take such a proposal seriously?
A first time together is getting to know each other, a lot of talking over dinner(s), meeting her family and any lady knows that a guy doesn't travel to Ukraine for only 2 days, she won't take you seriously and will be more likely to take you for as much as she can get out of you for trying to pull the wool over her eyes!
I know that, so that is why I was upfront about my intentions and plans for my time in Ukraine! And while some have stressed their displeasure, others seem to understand and are still looking forward to spending some time together! I am sure that if it doesn't work out with anybody, then I will still have a great time and be a lot wiser with anything I do in the future!
Hmmm .... the visa process thing probably is way in the future, but I would still like to here from some Aussies about how to go about this, just so I have an idea! This first visit will just be to meet some nice girls and see if we can really connect :)
Which part? I mentioned I would see some nice girls, but didn't mention teh fact that I've told them?? I don't know ... but regardless of that, is anybody able to provide some advice on the visa process for Australia?
Afterall, who knows what will happen, so it'd be great if someone can point out exactly what I should expect when I go down this path, whether it is next month or in 10 years?
So I have decided to spend 5 days in both Kiev and Odessa, and I plan to meet a number of nice girls
I guess that I want to know she is the one for me, and then be encoraged to start the process of applying when I return!
Yet in post 2:
Hmmm .... the visa process thing probably is way in the future,
Yeah, well I rethought it, seriously I do not know at this stage! I would love to meet that one girl on my first visa, but being realistic it probably is a long way in the future ... but seriously why does that matter??
I would like a bit of advice or info though about the Australian process if theres someone here! Might start a new post ... that ok?
In the event that you have not done the suggested search - I will cut to the chase. Steeleman is an Aussie who decided that the entire concept of pursuing an FSU woman is a scam. He based his conclusion on the fact that 4 goreous women around twenty years old - did not show up to be drooled over by a middle age man who gave a flimsy story about coming on business to meet them and sent them $150 or so to meet him.
Steeleman seemed about as deep as a piece of paper is thick and not very rational.
There is nothing wrong with meeting a lady in the fashion that you describe so long as you are honest with each. These women are intelligent and can spot dishonestly a mile a way.
Let them know that you want to meet them and be sincere. Go for it.
Lighten up on the guy Martin. ; ) When I was 23 I changed my mind every few minutes too.
My advice: just relax, have fun, be honest with the girls you meet. If your intentions are serious, let them know. If this is a "reconnaisance" trip, just go and check it out. You won't get to know someone enough in 5 days to decide about marriage.
BTW, good idea taking my advice about limiting your trip to two cities.
Quote from 'About Forum', please note in particular the first paragraph, it is written in the English alphabet, one might presume that Russia refers to other FSU countries also:
You are our customer or you are visiting this site for the first time in your life. Your beloved girl lives in Russia or you've just taken a decision to find your love in this country...
No matter who you are, we are ready to help you. Real love doesn't need language, but some things are different in different countries. If you want to know something about Russian women, Russian holidays, Russian mentality, Russian traditions-feel free to ask us. Our manager Nadya will give answers to all your questions.
Post to our forum, share your thoughts and ideas! You have a unique opportunity to become a member of our mailing list and access and respond all messages of our forum via your e-mail address. You will meet new friends and share your experiense in inter-cultural relationships. Visit our forum and subscribe to our discussion list!
I'm not sure what your point is Martin, but if one is able to "presume that Russia refers to other FSU countries also", then its certainly also fair to "presume" that the forum is meant for single people looking for FSU women.
The first paragraph you asked us to note mentions that "Your beloved girl lives in Russia or you've takena decision to find your love in this country". That pretty much sumsup the target audience.
My post was specifically aimed at wtrav02 - who has yet to make a helpful or constructive post on any subject (and no, his liberal political diatribes do not count) since returning from a too short, several month, absence. It seems his only function is to take pot-shots at those who ever admit to making a mistake or speak honestly about their situation, pretty much the universal definition of a TROLL.
You, on the other hand, have offered helpful information and I have mentioned that in several posts previously.
Regarding your marital situation does give one cause to scratch his head. I, like many members here, SAW your profile on another service before you deleted it. You updated it in early 2005, yet you claim to have been married for longer than that. I have also read your posts in another forum. Those posts certainly seemed to indicate that you were still looking. Claim whatever you want to claim Martin, regarding your marital situation. Most of us doubt it anyway and consider you single.
wtrav02 - though has always claimed to be married and has not been inconsitant on that subject. I understand he supposedly lives in the US now with his wife (Michigan I thinkl?).
He CLAIMS not to be looking as well and there is no contrary information (other than his tendency to hang around here) to suggest otherwise. But far from offering ANY helpful advice all the guy does is shoot at people who are honest in their posting, and make moronic insults.
I was married, if you must know, in April of last year and if you can find anything that I have ever said regarding being married before April 2005 then please be my guest and post it.
With regards to that profile being updated in early 2005, perhaps it was, to be honest I cannot recall but there was a circumstance, that I explained to a buddy of yours previously, whereas around late 2004/early 2005 I became a 'free agent' however this situation was relatively short lived, approximately 4 months, before I became 'off the market' again.
That is all I am saying on that subject, whether you and your buddies choose to believe if I am married or not, well do I care, not!
Your previous post, which seems to have been moderated, and as per previous posts by other forum members, clearly gave the impression that you and your buddies do not believe that married guys should have any say in matters in this forum, a total contradiction in terms of what the forum administration say on the matter.
Matt, I know a nice girl from Kiev..her name is Elena and she lied to me..she is 26 now...I can give you her details, nice 6 foot girl who speaks fluent English and an translator/teacher...she is living in Hamburg, Germany at the moment as far as I know..I am just stirring mate..Elena and I love to hate each other!