Alex,
Don`t listen to any of our antisocial experts who have never been to one.They are more worried about HOW they met a woman versus WHO they met. Just go to one and you will be enlightened dramatically.They are the same women you see on this sight and no different. In fact , at a social i met few who are actually posted on Fiance.com, so please tell me the difference? I honestly feel guys who can`t feel comfortable in a beautiful banquet room with beautiful single women who want to meet them have no self esteem or a feeling of shyness and inadequecy and were this way most of their lives with women so they feel more comfortable writing letters. You will wish you haven`t wasted so much of your precious time writing letters to Ivan or the agencies ghost writers.You can take that to the bank. I uncovered a lot of crap . Enough crap to quit letter writing.
Are you suggesting that I'm an "anti-social expert" who has either never been to one or who can't feel comfortable in a banquet room with beautiful women? LOL.
I've been to socials and they're not for me. But if Alex wants to go to a social, I'm not going to insult him.
Damm jmoluv...maybe you should think about cutting back on the coffee. Now your starting to sound like vanechka making personality judgments about people you have never met before. As it stands right now there have been 10 successful relationships from letter writing that I know of and one from the socials (jet). Since I am a results oriented type of guy, with those results I would stick with letter writing. You’re going to do the letter writing anyway after you meet at the social, unless you can afford to stay for six months or so, to make sure you are not just working off of lust. So I suppose glad, ditto, nas, trad, ice, myself, etc…are going to be surprised that letter writing just does not work. Everyone needs to do the method that they feel comfortable with and to denigrate those that use a method that you do not feel comfortable with kind of puts you in the troll category.
Alex...it is a safe bet that I won't be attending the social with you as my trip to Kyiv in June will be to accompany Lena and her son to the US.
A couple of years ago there was some pretty heated debates about socials, so JMO, who usually needs to cut back on the caffiene and put down the Steeler Juice is an alright guy. Hey I don' think I could do a social, just not my style. Maybe for others it will work. There is one certainty to it, you are going to meet a woman or many women.
I am suggesting that most,not singly pointing you VNV,Dude..., of the cadre here who never been to one usually are the ones against it. As i said before to deaf ears , these are the very same women at these socials that are on these websites and no different.No personality judgements here.Me and Jet know because we where there. I went to meet the women in person to find out who was for real because most agencies are proven liars. At the social i chose who to date and who to write to . At least i can say when i came back home i knew that the ones i was with were for real. Big, big difference. As Izzi said, all the e-mailing goes down the drain when you get off of that plane. The very very few who have had success writing letters we know of are of the small percentile. I have personally uncovered so much fraud that i can write my own book on it.I have found my own venue that has worked for me , just as we know we should not send money to ladies we have not met , i sure as hell don`t send letters to someone i have not met.It will be a social or a bar for me........ Pass the coffee....... Please :-)))
Skiired ,
You must take into account that not every one who is looking for a girl posts on this sight . If you want to know about success figures call European Connections at 770-458-0909 in Atlanta ,Georgia for Data. Ask for Kyle or Byron the owners. They will give you their attorneys number who does K-1 visas . He will tell you. My ex-girlfriend from Kyiv worked for them . Plenty of clients became engaged after a social and dating . Would you like to talk to her?
btw, met lots of scammers on a few sites but also have met quite a few nice people
so maybe it is a matter of percentages.
obviously the ones who ask for money, dont give out phone nbrs, or are "in love with you" very quickly
are 2 be avoided but is anyone silly enough to fall for that???
btw,cuteonly is a good site in my experience. anyone reccomend any sites for kiev?
Js, are you going to Kiev with intentions of going directly to agencies to meet girls??
kievconnections.com ($40 per girl) Have a stunner named Veronica!!!!
russian-brides-service.com ($20 per girl)
Personally, I don't prefer doing this, only if I have to.
Hope to be back in Kiev in Aug/Sept
sorry mate, I'm new to all this, but I'm a little confused. Weren't you the one that wrote the below, but now, just a couple of days later you "want to try to visit socials with
Anastasia tour" ?
"I am not new to this forum or the field itself.after spending 5 years and bunch of money
I am still single.my resume of all of this is--dont jump into the lake before you spend
time on computer.all agencies and e-mails are useless as 99% of them business and scam.
we all understand that women we will meet are not virgins,so make it a starting point and your
life will be very simple.there is no provable difference between woman you going to marry and
ex-prostitute.most of us are looking for a family oriented woman,well,if you keep in mind 99% of
them are not available anyway for whatever reason you have to look into remaining 1%.
this is where you start--1%.I just checked prostitution web sites for Kiev and start thinking
I wasted 5 years.remember,there is no sure way to find the woman of your dreams.
what start as a dream very easy could be a nightmare next year.in this field we gamble and
you have to understand your luck and chances.
once in Moscow i decided to have fun,made a call from my hotel and 20 min later I met best looking
lady in all my life//and I had plenty of chicks//paid her 160$ and had my way with her.after she left I ask
myself--how come all your life you fuck ugly chicks but the day you paid 160$ you had the best?
because all previous ones you loved?"
Are you saying then that you are just interested in Ukrainian women for sex? No problems if you are mate, I just get confused by all the conflicting views is all.