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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Spotting a Scammer?! Author Post Besty Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/20/2006 11:31:44 AM   Having read through some of the earlier posts, it would appear that I shouldn't trust ladies from Azov. I have recently received letters from 2 ladies there, from the advice given on this forum should I not write to these women? Or am I being too cautious? What is the best way to spot scammers? Is there a common theme to their letters or something else that gives them away? Thanks in advance wmferg Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/20/2006 8:22:46 PM   When they ask for money! Keep in mind that in an area where there are alot of scammers does not mean all are scammers. Usually...but not always if a lady starts mentioning her undying love for you in her first, second, third, etc, then wait for the letter asking you to help pay for her heart transplant. :))) Bill VNVnation Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/20/2006 9:35:51 PM   It is ridiculous to say that you shouldn't trust ALL ladies from a particular region or city. If you want to write to a lady then write to her. If she's a scammer it will become apparent soon enough. Just don't send money for any reason. Take normal precautions, like running her name on Google, checking scammer lists, and later, if things become more serious, do a flower delivery with photo verification. RK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/21/2006 10:05:30 PM   I pretty much second VNV. polockinpa23 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 3:26:54 PM   i was just wondering if i could get the site for a scammers list. i would like to check my lady.don't get me wrong i trust her very much. i just got back from my first trip to see her and the whole time i was there she never asked me for a nickle. her friends even payed for me quite a bit. also i broke something in the flat she had found for me and she had to pay to have it fixed(and i know it was broke because i remember doing it, i just thought no one would know)and she has not yet asked me to pay her back. and it's been about a week. well after all the usless information i just told you i would still like to have the piece of mind to know she is not on a scammers list. skiired Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 3:53:36 PM   polo, by what you say she does not sound like a scam artist polockinpa23 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 4:06:41 PM   no she does not sound like one to me either, but she could also be a very good one and just waiting for the right time to pounce on her prey. as you can tell i don't trust women verye easily, i've been burnt 5 times to many!! wmferg Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 4:29:27 PM   polo...If she was a scammer she would have made a move by now. Most scammers do not want to meet you, those that do usually have a shopping trip in mind. Since you have been to see her and a shopping trip was not on the schedule then you can probably be sure that she is the genuine thing. If you do have a jewel there, be very careful that you do not expect her to make amends for the previous wrongs done to you. Nothing can be absolutly certain, but we have to keep our suspicions under control so when we do find "the one" we don't send her packing by coming accross as paranoid. Bill vanechka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/27/2006 6:15:48 AM   Its not a matter of spotting a scammer you desperate losers. Its a matter od spotting a non scammer. that is the question..... Wake up you losers. And to the dickhead who said I am shallow. What guy with half a brain would go to ukraine for nothing but a babe. What so you cretins go to ukraine for average woman with kids??? I rest my case. For anyone with any logic here remember that soon this place will be full od hardluck stories. All the dads army here like martin will reverse their opinions. FSU woman are bad bad news. Some of us are smart enough to see it without messing up our lives in it.. Western men are laughed at by agents. they think you re despicable danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/27/2006 7:00:24 AM   There remain many guys who are not serious enough for such a commitment, they haven't done their reseach, and to some it is merely to show off to their mates to the effect 'hey guys, look at the designer wife I've got' or indeed 'look at the designer lady I'm shagging this week'. Now to anyone that remains in any doubt just read back through the archives of this forum and decide for yourself who are the serious, who are the idiots, who are those with a grudge to bear and who are those that are merely after a quick shag. The writings speak for themselves! Neonred Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/27/2006 7:30:26 AM   NO Vanechka....YOU are the dickhead and you show it with every post. As I said, no use telling you anything because you just don't understand. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/27/2006 8:26:37 AM   But he does understand but he is so frigging insecure he's afraid to admit it and would rather ocupy his sad and miserable life spreading gloom and despondency. So come on Vanechka, how many FSU ladies have you dated, how many did you enter into a relationship with and why did such relationships finish? You speak with very much authority on the FSU dating scenario thus I'm sure many, like myself, are interested to learn from where you picked up your wealth of hands-on knowledge. ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/27/2006 8:44:43 AM   Vanechka is the same guy to spammed the forum a while back telling people to forget FSU women saying we will all be sorry etc etc. Then 2 weeks later came back asking for information on how to get a FSU girl an Australia visa. go figure. Martin makes a good point, why does he keep coming back, why would he waste his time if hes not interested! Sure hes not the smartest guy but I think theres more to it and its not because is a kind caring individual keen to help others with his wealth of knowledge either! I have no doubt hes been burnt by a FSU lass who broke his heart. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/27/2006 9:37:27 AM   I'd be surprised if he's had an FSU relationship at all but I stand to be corrected ...... live and learn! TRAPdoorSURPRISE Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2006 10:37:22 AM   There is an easy way to find the sincere woman in FSU. They are the ones who are interested in communicating with you. They do not ask for money for tickets or visa. They tell you about their family and friends. It is that simple. If you find yourself looking around and having to check out everything someone has told you then you know it is a scam. Scammers know that there are not a lot of resources to check their stories. So, they use anything that they think can not be verified. Even if it sounds good it is usually a decption. A scammer may be caught off guard and use anything that sounds good but can not be verified. It can get very deep and then you start questioning yourself if you should believe it. This is how you know it is a scam. You must look to simplicity and stop using your energy to chase around all these lies. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2006 10:57:57 AM   Trapdoor, Sorry but that is bullshit. So many scammers make the first contact with a guy and guys are, more often than not, caught out because they didn't do a search beforehand. The majority of scammers also utilise internet cafes, they don't have their own PC's, thay do not know their way around the internet as well as some of us and are often unaware of the usefulness of a search engine. So many scammers talk about family and friends, their favourite line being 'I've told mum about you', any guy involved with a lady should run a search very early on to avoid possible heartache, financial loss and wasted time later, any guy who doesn't is a bl00dy idiot. TRAPdoorSURPRISE Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2006 12:20:12 PM   I stand corrected. The first simple task of checking search engines can not be stressed enough. Reality check please. If there is any reason for a man to keep communicating with a woman from the FSU when they are presented with a difficult choice of trusting someone over the internet with their money then please explain it everyone? It can't be that difficult to say, "NO" can it? Or have we all lost our collective minds? We are talking about penpals. There is no realtionship to be had over the internet, correct? If guys would just stop sending money then all the girls will become honest or they will leave to find another sucker. Isn't that the simple truth? But you are correct in your post and it is apparent that you are experienced. Would you consider starting a new thread in outline form about what it takes to prepare and execute a reasonable plan when dealing with a new contact from a FSU woman? Just the basics. A launching point or a refresher. It seems that some giys just do not get it. I'd read it! danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2006 2:31:53 PM   There wouldn't be any point in starting a thread Trapdoor, the visitors to this site represent a decimal point less than 1% of the guys out there and, by reading, most guys come here after it is too late. I once listed a scammer, linked to my email, witing that I (she) is a crook, a thief, only wants your money and whilst writing total bullshit etc. You just wouldn't believe the responses from guys merely looking at her pictures and not reading what was written. Thereafter I realised that guys will be total idiots and there will always be a steady stream of suckers for the scammers. cre8ive1970 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/5/2006 11:28:02 AM   if you think with your brain instead of your loins, you have a much better chance of avoiding a scam. it's not just russian or ukrainian women who will scam you. i was briefly married to an american woman who turned out to be nothing more than a thief and a whore. finding a good woman is a lot more difficult than finding trash. if you keep that in mind and use your head, you have a better chance of success. you also need to know what it is that you want. if you enter into a relationship with out a clue as to what you really want, and therefore discarding that which you don't want, then your chances of being manipulated rise to almost 100%. Use your head and take your time. 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