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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Read about the real truth and facts about waht is being sold here Author Post aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 7:50:10 AM   Go over too (www.agencyscams.com) and read about the real truth about Russian/FSU women and mail order brides and marriage agencies from an independant party who had 6 years experience with them. Its a real horror story...Russian/FSU girls are emotional fruit cakes with strange, alien mentalities that will drive a western guy up the wall and make them want to dump them in the rubbish. After reading this stuff, local girls are infinitely better and Russian/fsu girls are nutters! Its not the ex-soviet men in Russia etc. causing the worlds highest divorce rates: e.g IN BELARUS IT IS 68% DIVORCE..WORLDS HIGHEST, UKRAINE IT IS 63% AND ITS NOT THE MEN CAUSING IT..ITS THE WOMEN BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO TREAT AND RESPECT THE MAN AND BEHAVE LIKE FRUITCAKES! 70% OF Russian/FSU GIRLcame to US in 2003 on Fiance Visas ( the K1 VISA ), left the country within 6 months of arrival and went back to Russia, never to return (INS statistic)..70% FAILURE RATE! and in 5 years, only 1 in 10 of these marriages in US survive and its the women causing the failures with there constant demanding, whining and fruit cake behaviour! Don't be a fool guys...stay away from Russian/FSU mobs...it is a nightmare for which you will pay dearly for. Russian girls to the trash and get a local girl..far better! Deano Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 12:46:17 PM   Where are the links to to view all these statistics you talk about? I've been going to Ukraine and Russia for 4 years now. I have made friends with about 20 other guys doing the same thing as me. Only one has a horror story. The others have no complaints. But I would like to see the website where you found these official stats. I can believe the divorce rate for the formal FSU countries but the 70% failure rate in the US K1 visa seems too high to me. jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 1:17:52 PM   I am not going to side with anyone on Aussies observations but all i can say is that i can speak from my own actual experiences in Ukraine after four visits and i met several and dated a good handful. I have to agree with Aussie here on certain issues and then again maybe i wrote and met the wrong ones . But , I will say that i am going to relate to Aussies remarks on,Are they are emotional fruitcakes ? YES .Do they operate and react with strange alien type mentalities ? YES. Also i will add these remarks to the list . Do they lack the ability to sit down and reason with a calm logic ? NO, they throw horrific fits and tantrums when you choose to not dance to their tune. Are they able to walk away from a relationship as fast as they stepped in without rhyme or they abilty to reason with calm logic? Hell no. These are my experiences . felicedate Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 1:39:08 PM   MEN! YOU ARE JUST DESTINED TO BE GAYS! That's the best solution for many of you.:-) JEff, not you. Such a guy can be loved only by a woman.:-) chrisc4 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 1:51:52 PM   I spent the 3 years in Ukraine and I agree with every word that jmolv has written, there are some good girls here, but not very many! but even the good ones are hard work ! tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 2:34:40 PM   Mine has never raised her voice in 2 years, never had a tantrum and even if she is pissed off with me, she says it is only over the current discussion/ action or whatever. can't relate to any of that jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 3:47:14 PM   Felice, Are you coming over for dinner tonight? LOL !!!!! skiired Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 3:56:33 PM   Aussie and others like you.... Why do you insist on warning others of all this? Are you looking to win the nobel prize?? Why dont YOU stick with your local chickie pies and leave the rest of us alone. Dont worry, were big boys and I really think we can handle ourselves. Go away and warn someone who cares jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 5:24:41 PM   Skired, Please read the title of this particular thread and what it adresses. "So others like you", i guess that means me. If you can`t contribute to this particular thread because my guess is you have not been over there yet then why make your comment? These are my actual experiences and i have plenty of them . I am sorry if some of our actual experiences taints your e-mail fantasy world of writing and staring at photos of beautiful women who in reality for the most part are not the ones answering your letters. Too bad you can`t prove they are. I consider myself an expert at detecting fake letters and also agencies like Felice`s that use translation machines that completely can screw up a good thing even though he means well:-)). Or if you announce you are finally flying over to see them and they mysteriuosly tell you they apologize because they found their soulmate right before your departure. Get a few trips under your belt and you will know exactly where the naysayers are coming from . The very few here who have succeeded are the very few. Others dont even write to share their embarrassment.The right girls are out there i am sure ,but it can be a long and costly adventure. alexferd Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 5:44:59 PM   i understand aussie,prostitution is legal over there. here,in Florida I pay 200$ an hour for illegal pleasure felicedate Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 6:27:37 PM   Jeff, I bet that the translation my agency was giving to our clients was probably the best in the whole system because I had only professionals working for me. If you were expecting a good, professional, "manual" translation of your letters for 0,35$(average agent's comission with fiance.com) it sounds a bit naive of you, don't you agree? Sending and receiving one letter with any agency of Angelika network would cost you not less than 35$ foraletter and an answer to it, there it is normal that you are getting superb service. But for some reason I haven't met any of you there... Saving money?;-) Nice place to save by the way... No offence, Jeff. Just don't try when a person wants to offend me without propper grounds. By the way, remember my old post about my dream to earn enough for a Porshe one day? One quoter done this a month ago buying a red sport Hyndai partially made by Porshe for my wife.:-) I promise that one day it will be a real Porsh!:-) jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 7:06:09 PM   No offense either Felice but you know damn well that translation machines are not accurate and can easily misinterpret the many many phrases in English of the same words but with different meanings. You have said to me that you do use machines which could explain alot with my correspondence of my disapproval and that "is" my proper ground to stand on. . aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 7:22:15 PM   alexferd, prostitution is only legal in a few states in Australia and then they have to be licensed and registered with the Government as a PCA worker ( Personal Care Attendant ) and have regular medical check-ups ( once every 30 days at minumum) and work from a Licensed Brothel, so it is well regulated here and has been for about 10 years as in my state of Victoria. Im not interested in prostitutes..been there and done that 7 years ago and it was not a satisfying experience and I never went back and will never go back again..its just not real, like Russian women! it will cost you about $120 here in a licensed brothel for a 30 minute shag session nowdays. Look as for Russian/Ukrainian/FSU girls..they are emotional fruitcakes..they get offended over the strangest, minor, most trivial things that would not worry a Western girl and as for girls throwing tantrums because they can't get there own way...I won't have that childish behaviour and they need to grow up or go out the door and not come back!..I got no patience for that kind of crappy behaviour and most men don't either..thats why these relationships fail for most part..WHO IS GOING TO PUT UP WITH THERE NONSENSE AND THEY ALL DO IT AS THEY TRY TO BE VERY MANIPULATIVE AND CONTROLLING...these women are totally different in thinking, culture and behaviour and many are childish and chuck tantrums! Why bother with it and make yourself unhappy with this type of girls? Nobody can be that desperate for a partner to marry "an emotional fruitcake and nutter, that chucks tantrums!"..in the bin with them or any girl that does that! stevo 48 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 7:33:50 PM   aussieman you got it right 100% mate we are entertaining head cases over there mine has now turned into a total money drain / head case lie drenched horror story ( give it a miss guys you will end up in the assylum ) steve 48 danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 7:41:43 PM   Perhaps as many, if not more, couples seperate in western countries but with the modern day western thing of merely living together, rather than marrying, these couples would not appear in any divorce stastistics. stevo 48 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 8:04:31 PM   just re- reading aussieman man are you right 3 years of head cases ive put up with / beggars who are still choosers / jow does that work ay ive splashed in exactly 33 months of knowing / going to russia air fares the lot - gettin all teary trying to look after em its cost me $23,600 usd -but i tell you know it wont cost me another cent . What a basterd race you help / you psy all day / all night and yu still get used and abused i used to think ohh the poor darlings / i was a fool mug and his money is soon parted . they lie to cover a lie and another to cover another -everything is a rippoff they would not know a good guy if they fell over him . You know the biggest problem is they forget who has the ropes ( we do ) as without us they have a big percentage of fugg all ! they dont want your heart mate just your wallet and its a lifetime ambition to own your wallet . did you read recently the poor guy in aussie taxi owner and driver aged 54 trusting as the days long - girl he was with id even met her through him all hunky dorey 16 months they were together near broke him , she finished him off while he slept pinched his wallet pin numbers the lot raced down to the atm worked out what was what and cleaned him out of $9,000 while he slept --all such loyalty she always said sh'ed take care of things . NEXT WEEK an article ive done for aussie govenment comes out ( iam with communications ) with govvy and the tourism branch is rather engrossed with russia and its ways asked it id do a story yes no sweat i said long as you dont mind the stark truth . so the truth will be written . scammers i witnessed a mother and daughter team in moscow this year ! taLK ABOPUT SET UP WELL !!!! you never seen nothing like it thier whole lives dedicated to extracting the next $50 outu the next poor sole opf course they make sure hes a westerner . guys dont fall for the head cases you know the lovely love letters , ohh i cant live without you all the crap. They have more problems than the lone ranger --but you you say they create em whinge mean , nasty childish little ways and they'l drive yu mad --and for what they got zero to offer ok good sorts fun times in the sack =-========take away that and ''why would yu bother with em ? Aussieman i will say one thing the ukrainian ones i reackon ukraine is 75% more nut cases than russia , ukraine is over the top its all crap - russia itself i think you still got 1/2 a chance to find a sane one who just says ok sweetheart lets go . and no strings attached i reackon thier is at least 1 bus load combined that you could do some good with its finding that bus thats hard ,yes a lot of fruitcakes amongst em id say 80% in total ,where they get all this will to self manufacture there own monster mentality is beyond me . They set emselves up for a fall -------ohh guys do yourself a favour marriage forget it though the thought of marriage never entered my mind from day 1 anybody who marries in 2006 is a mug set yuself up for a cleanout . \your generosity with these tarts is not appriected ( they dont know the meaning of the word ) should they want a good life with us they really have to become westernised real quick ( i mean they all want out of the joint anyway ) yes aussieman emotional fruitcakes its a shame ay really --but they all cast from the one mould -all with alteriour motives too . iam heading back to another part of the world to find one thats not nightmare --------yu can give em money all day there ios no thanks ive learnt an expensive lesson ( would you believe iam a member of russia club in aussie the boss of that told me himself said steve i lived in russia 38 years you go thier you'l get robbed ( why do you think we live hear ) he has a folder foolscap 2 inches thick of complaints stories he recieved over the last 5 years from poms / aussies / kiwis whom have been totally ripped off . boy is it good reading i can borrow send it to you mate on loan courier if youd like ) the russia club boss said to me its what we refer too as the ''shame file '' man you wannu read it what they have ''done to people '' its really sad mate . woke me up ---leave it alone boys my advise forget marriage -mugs game love em and leave em have a good time yes slip em a few bux yes who cares get tangled up in thier minds ( no please dont go there ) trust em ------only if your a fool believe 40% of what you see there --and 10% of what they tell you . loyalty yes your get that ---untill your money runs out -then youl get traded in quicker that a chevy nova on a cadilac . lies man you;l get told the world book of lies --they start off ok then they dive in for the kill . steve stevo 48 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 8:20:19 PM   skired il dedicate my life to warning others of these rippoffs - aussies are like that they expose the villian ----there is zero honesty in the vast majority of these people , maybe 15% of total population -cast away the lie dictionary in russia the rest forget it . OBTAINING A DECENT NON CORRUPT WOMAN in this country should be as easy as getting a loaf of bread after all they got nothing to bargain with , have they ! the balls are all in our court totally , you guys all go about the marriage crap no no no recipe for disaster you have to view these people 70's style / shack up enjoy , help by all means sure why not , its the only way to go with em . Hey ive had some good times dont get me wrong and life is only about cigars /. $$$ and good times stark reality yu dead a long time . Enjoy whilst your hear --but beggers ( them ) cant be choosers we have the money man with the money gets the honey , i learnt some expensive lessons ahh but lifes a learning curve and i can easily afford . its the lies i cant cope with out of em . why would they lie to sombody whom is paying thier way ! a lot about them makes no real sence --------my recommendation - love em enjoy , play the field by all means ------the moment yu think of marriage see the quack real quick get yuself locked away for 2 weeks until you wakle up to yourself . but hey they are only sack - time funners -never lose sight of that . i wish you all luck , ive seen / witnessed many aussies fall in hole through these birds ----end of the day for all the grief -and the heart strings crap i really dont think its all worth it . one more thing --for all your time guys and spending hey donty end up with a bag ay , they are good sorts ive still got mine shes on notice ------shape up or ship out . wmferg Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 9:06:17 PM   I think the above post was in English...however I am really not sure. ntos Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 9:09:36 PM   I agree with every thing he said. I met an ex russian bride who works at the same place I do. She is nothing but a whinny bitch. She is very good looking and want to get together, but listening to the whinning, I just wanted to slap her. I feel sorry for the Russian men. In the mean time I found a local gal who is wonderfull and with whinning, moaning or groaning. Runnian ladies need to take heed. I was contacted by 32 different Russian woman and 30 of them were known scammers. I give up on Russian women and have pulled all my memberships. Sin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/22/2006 9:40:43 PM   It's not in English. It's in Aussie. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Read about the real truth and facts about waht is being sold here
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