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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Advice appreciated Author Post English Steve Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 12:05:49 PM   Since last April I have been writing to a lady from Yoshkar-Ola. Last September I travelled to Russia to meet her, we arranged to meet at at Domodedovo Airport in Moscow. I booked a room at the Aerotel Domdedovo which is 300 metres from the Airport. When I arrived at the Airport she wasn't there, so the next day I flew to Kazan as we had arranged and travelled from there to Yoshkar-Ola by mini-van. On arrival at Yoshkar-Ola I checked into a Hotel and tried to find my lady. For two days I walked the streets of Yoshkar-Ola, I had her address, but was unable to find her house. She does not have a telephone, I do not speak Russian. After two days I returned to Moscow and flew back to England, feeling very dejected. Upon my return she sent me a message saying that she had arrived at Kazan airport to get the flight to Moscow as arranged,unfortunately the authorities would not allow her to board the flight as she was carrying a Painting which was intended as a gift for me from her Mother.They has assumed that the painting had been stolen from a Church. She flew to Moscow a couple of days later, by which time I was back at home. There had obviously been a complete break-down in communications, I had sent her a copy of my flight itenary which she had clearly not understood. Since then our relationship by email has got much stronger and I intend to meet her in Russia, then go to the British Embassy in St.Petersburg in person together to get a fiance visa. After which we would return to England with a view to marry within the 6 month period. I really would appreciate any constructive criticism or guidance offered. Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 12:12:59 PM   It sounds like a scam to me. Forget about her.. what painting:)... Flights inside Russia not international. Get her address, phone number. but it sounds like a scam. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 12:34:15 PM   Steve, I agree with Olga, these ladies come up with such incredible excuses, why could she have not just been ill or something? I'll bet you a beer that she has either a mobile or a home phone and perhaps you couldn't find the address she has given you because it doesn't exist. Have you tried a google search for her name, address, email address, partial email address or anything you know about her? Martin jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 1:12:50 PM   I agree with the opinions of martin and Olga here, regarding the possibility of a scam - but something still sounds fishy about this story. You walked the streets of Yoshkar-Ola for TWO DAYS without finding her address because you don't speak Russian???? Couldn't you enlist the help of a local? Wasn't there SOMEONE who spoke English that you could get to help you (for pay of course) to find out if the address really existed? Perhaps you could have gained internet access somewhere and emailed your lady (I know that even small cities in Moldova have internet cafes) or the affilated agency in her hometown through which she has listed herself? I spent two weeks in Latvia a while back, where I didn't know a soul, yet I am certain that ANYWHERE I wanted to find or ANYONE I wanted to contact I would have been able to find. Now, admittedly, more people probably speak English in Riga than in Yoshkar-Ola, but certainly SOME help must have been obtainable. You mention that you relationship is now stronger than ever, so it is clear that you have accepted her story. She again seems to lead you to believe that she will meet you at the embassy to obtain a fiance visa - which means that either she is sincere OR she has other motivation. Tell me, Steve, never having met her in person - ARE YOU SENDING HER MONEY? jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 1:19:25 PM   Would it be a good idea, in this case, to use a gift delivery service, sending it directly to her address and getting a photo of her accepting the gift? Of course, you would not tell her in advance that this was taking place. it would be a surprise. VNVnation Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 1:42:27 PM   Even if everything in your story is true (and I highly doubt that they wouldn't let her on the plane with a paiting), why would you want to pursue a relationship and marriage with someone who is so unresourceful that she couldn't let you know that she had problems before you went home? She coulnd't send a message to the hotel you had arranged to stay at? Why did she wait until you were home to send you an email? Wouldn't a considerate person have done that immediately upon being denied boarding on the plane? Why did it take her a couple of days to fly to Moscow? Couldn't she have gone home, dropped off the painting and taken the next flight? I'm sure there are frequent flights between Kazan and Moscow. Her whole story sounds ridiculous. You've already wasted nearly a year writing to her. I'd say forget about her and move on. Write to a few ladies in one city and arrange to also use a good local agency in that city. Write for a month or two and then make a trip. English Steve Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 2:24:31 PM   I have just been looking at websites for Russian Scammers, and to my horror on womenrussia I have found "My Lady" on there.I have checked this and other anti-scam sites before. She sent exactly the same letters to a guy in Utah last year and used the same e-mail address. Yes, I did send her the money for the flight from Kazan to Moscow, but I suppose that I will have to put this down to experience and the waste of 11 months !!!! That goes to show that you are never to old to learn. Maybe I will go on a love-tour next year to the FSU, so that I can actually see a lady in person. Thanks to you all for the advice, I may have carried this on for months to come. VNVnation Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 3:03:34 PM   Glad you found out now and didn't invest further. If you are still interested in a RW, use a local agency or take a tour. #1 Rule: Don't send money to someone you haven't met!! danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 3:39:07 PM   And rule #2 is to never forget rule #1 :)) Good luck Steve, do not consider them as mistakes, consider them as learning experiences! felicedate Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 3:54:39 PM   That's a scam. One our client(if I am not mistaken from Australia) has once wrote the same story . All was just the same but she got even further trying to fool him. She wrote that she was accused of this illegal try to get the painting and now was under investigation. She wrote the guy that he should send her money to hire a lawyer or for bribes or something... I just wonder... HOW STUPID A PERSON SHOULD BE TO BELIEVE ALL THIS SHIT!!! To Fly to the damned asshole Yoshkar-Ola to meet somebody whom he doesn't know, who "has no phone"(of course, and she is living in the middle of the 18th century, yes?). danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 4:55:15 PM   felicedate, Ever thought of offering encouragement for the next time? felicedate Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 4:58:59 PM   MArtin. I'll think about it. buffed Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 6:42:44 PM   I don't know which makes me sicker: The scammers or the complete idiots that send these scumbags money, thereby providing the incentive for this vermin to propagate. This is the equivalent of having slob neighbors who throw all their kitchen garbage in a backyard pile, creating a magnet for all the rats, cockroaches, and assorted vermin to descend on the area causing a nuisance for you. Are you then going to stand side-by-side with your idiot-slob, neighbor both chastising the critters for being bad? Of course not, cockroaches, rats, and maggots are vermin and can't be reasoned with, only kept at bay or exterminated. The same applies to scammers, they're sub-human filth. These dimwits sending money to this scum only serve to encourage behavior. If the slob neighbor hadn't piled kitchen scraps, there wouldn't be a vermin problem. If the boneheads would quit sending money there wouldn't be a scamming problem. The situation is so bad now that you can essentially write-off websites which allow "women" to register for free without being authenticated. They have been over-run by FSU and Nigerian scumbags. I can't believe some of the stories these moron men write on these scammer sites, something to the effect of: "Yeah, this scammer was REALLY GOOD, had me totally fooled when I sent the $1,200 for the Visa/Plane tickets plus the extra $400 she wrote me she needed for taxi fare." In most cases these knot-heads contact with the scammers has never progressed beyond exchanging emails. Even a grain of common sense would prevent someone from someone from sending money based on emails! English Steve, I'm sorry this happened to you and I don't mean to offend you personally but the truth must be told. Every guy who's spent any time dating babes in the FSU has probably been fleeced to some degree on occasion, myself included. However, that's entirely different than sending big chunks of cash to someone based on emails, that's pure stupidity. VNVnation Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 6:54:23 PM   Hey buffed, why don't you tell us how you really feel? danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 6:59:19 PM   Buffed, Once I was scammed for USD20, I knew it to be a scam but it cost me USD20, a small price to pay, to prove it. Thereafter I listed her as a scammer, on the same website, but linked to my email to the effect that I 'she' is only a liar, only after your money etc. etc. etc. Try it sometime, dozens of guys will declare their love etc. for you 'her' and it was only after I 'her' asked for USD1000 for a meeting that most of them went away. There are so many idiots in this world you wouldn't believe it, if you don't believe me then try posting a scammer linked to your email. M wmferg Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 7:14:30 PM   Gee...the guy is on the ground...lets all kick him in the head just one more time just to make sure he's in pain. jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/28/2006 8:58:18 PM   How many times do we have to tell our friends and members here on this forum .The number one rule is continuosly broken. Don`t ever ever write and send letters to women you have never met. Number one rule damit. VNVnation Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2006 5:35:22 AM   Huh? The number one rule is not to write to women you haven't met? I never heard of that rule. alexferd Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2006 5:35:58 AM   what is her last name and e-mail address? Annika77 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/1/2006 6:13:00 AM   Thanks for the post...I think I quit work and start my career as scammer. 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