I have a question for the guys who have traveled to FSU, met some of these women, and better yet married one.
I will mostly likely travel to Russia or Ukraine this year. If all goes well, I will invite the woman I want to marry to live with me in the US, then get married before her 90 day visa expires.
I see two avenues to meet this woman.
1. I could take a two or three week trip to Russia/Ukraine and visit the 3-5 women with whom I already have developed a very good relationship through e-mail over the past few months.
2. I could go on a 10-day tour through a company that specializes in this, where I meet 80 to 100 women a night.
Maybe it is just my personal preference, but I would rather meet the 3-5 women with whom I have developed a very serious relationship through e-mail.
My thinking is that:
·we already know each other very well.
·we have both decided that if the in-person chemistry is as good as the online chemistry, we would probably become engaged.
If I met 800 women over 10 days, I don't think that gives you enough time to find a handful of women that I really like, and get to know them well enough to know if I want to marry them. Deciding whom to marry is a life changing decision. I don’t want to rush.
Logistically, I realize that traveling through Russia/Ukraine could be difficult by myself. In addition to an electronic translator, I might also want a guide or interpreter. But then one woman I want to meet said she will pick me up at the airport, find a good hotel for my stay, and hire an interpreter. Perhaps the other women will offer to help with logistics too.
I'd go with meeting just the few women that you have already established some relationship with. However, if you only have a couple of weeks you probably don't want to be traveling from Moscow to Tomsk to Irkutsk to Odessa to Minsk.
Maybe pick your "top three" and just go to their cities; or, see if some of the ladies will meet you in a central city like Moscow or Kiev. That way you'll cut down your travel time and hassle. If you don't speak Russian, you can fairly easily set up hotels, guides, airport pickups, etc... from home through online resources.
You might want to leave a couple extra days at the end of your trip to spend with the lady that you like best.
Also, I recommend having a backup plan with a local agency. I've emailed girls before and thought we had a good relationship but in person there was no chemistry.
Thor,
Big mistake! You are travelling to FSU with it already in your mind that you will meet a lady and within 2-3 weeks, decide she is the one, propose marriage and start the visa application process. Well that is the way you've come across anyway.
How about you go with an open mind that you're going to have a holiday, meet with a few pretty ladies and if things should click then that would be good and if they don't click then so be it and there will be another such trip in the future.
As you have come across you are putting pressure on yourself to decide upon the rest of your lives together and all within 2 weeks. Stop, engage mind, you are not going to know each other well enough for that and if either party should decide such a thing within 2 weeks then they are not truly serious about the marriage thing. If both are serious then they'll agree to meet again a few (ish) months later and perhaps make such decisions then.
Don't take offence, I made a similar mistake, a focking big mistake, back in 2001 and I wouldn't advise others to do the same.
My wife says she'll hook up Pennsylvania men with her girlfriends, but only from Pennsylvania, because she doesn't want her girlfriends to come to America only to move far away. Any takers?
I agree with Martin_UK. You should probably lower your expectations. I would also offer some advice on correspondence. I have correspended quite a bit over the last year and am taking a trip to the Ukraine in May. The correspondence was enjoyable (largely due to the high response verses US sites) and I believe their are some intelligent, sincere women but I have recently given up the correspondence for the following reasons. The photos are very misleading and I guess if looks are not a criteria that would not matter. The larger problem is that I don't think it's very realistic to develop a relationship via correspondence. You could invest a lot of time in correspondence develop a relationship and then meet face to face and have absolutely no attraction.
Your best bet is to go over with low expectations and meet as many woman as your time permits
I agree with funincal, meet the girls first, then start the email campaign.
funincal... where in the Ukraine are you going and will you be using an agency?
I dont think photos are such a problem. If the woman has studio shots on her profile, generally she will be happy to send you more natural shots that will give you a good idea of what she looks like.
I would be very intersted to know how people have got on where the woman doesnt speak english. It would seem to me very difficult (impossible)to devellope a relationship if you can not talk together. Has anyone been able to overcome this?
Adman,
In a word it is 'difficult'. Of course one needs to, if one is serious, establish a relationship rather that a formality and if it is all via an interpreter, or all about sex, without really getting to know each other then how can one be sure that she is the one?
Writing letters, at one time, I thought was good because you can write honestly and openly, one is not trying to get her into bed that same night so the pressure, so to speak, is off.
But, the same as guys can be, these ladies can be full of sh1t and the true test doesn't come until you meet. Even if the letters are the most of sincere two people do not know if they are compatable, share sense of humour, body language etc. until they meet thus when I hear a guy, who hasn't even met her, talking of formalities within a week or so, well I've been there done that and I learnt (seriously) from that mistake.
This is just my personal opinion and experience, no doubt there are guys out there who may respond to this to the effect that despite language barriers it worked for them, good on them but language barriers didn't work for me. Too easy to have a misunderstanding and, if by yourself with her, you plead and plead your innocence explaining that it is all a misunderstanding and she can't understand a damn word you're saying, think about it!
And despite what the tosser in the other thread might be insinuating about me at the moment, I found my happiness after some years of trying and I wouldn't change anything.
I'm going to Odessa with Anastasia tours. I get the feeling from the forum that people are okay with their tours and not as high on the Anastasiaweb site. It's kind of ironic, my wife left me eight months ago and I had my two boys full-time for thr first 6 months. Of course I didn't have much time to myself and I wasn't in a very good place emotionally so romantic opportunities were few and far between. This is when I booked and paid for my trip. My ex and I have subsequently gone to a week on and a week off with the kids. Now I've got more time for myself and now I have more opportunities here in the US than I know what to do with.
Kind of funny how things work out - but I'm still looking forward to my trip. I love seeing new cultures and meeting new people and I've always wanted to learn a second language - I'm learning Russian.