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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Is it True? Author Post delta9 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/5/2006 11:49:40 PM   I asked for a woman's personal detail's...address and phone number....i learnt of an agreement the women have to keep this information exclusive to the agency representing her. so i understand this is a business and make's it's income from service's provided,....doe's it mean my only form of contact is through this "third party" situation in it's entirety?...(or at least until a meeting in reality i hope...and even then....who can be sure?).....to me it is not so much the personal detail's(though very important obviously).... it is the "act" of interest to provide them. Any word's of wisdom out there will be most welcome! Sean Nadya Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 12:26:47 AM   Sean, If it's a lady from our website that you have been writing to, and she refused to give her phone number or personal email on account that her agency was against it, could you please send an email to admin@fiance.com with her ID number. I'll check into it as soon as possible and email you back. Sincerely, Cycleserg Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 2:19:57 AM   Sean If the lady refused to give you any personal info after some normal correspondence time then move on. She might not have a computer at home and needs the agency to write to men then this is okay. Most FSU ladies have a cell phone or home phone. And everyone has an address so if you cannot get this then she is probably up to no good. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 5:36:48 AM   The agency are pimping her ..... at best. Move on delta9 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 3:02:31 PM   Thanks folk's....my concern's and thought's have been confirmed by your response's....i will wait with interest for a reply from Fiance.com before i make definitive decision's and choice's.... cheers...Sean danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 3:18:53 PM   Via fiance.com's online messages, many a moon ago, I repeatedly asked for ladies email addresses or other personal contact information and not a single one replied to the positive, It does make one wonder if the agency, being paid by the letter, is responding to the guy(s) as opposed to the lady herself and no doubt admin@fiance.com will have another 'Smart Ass' answer but why, for paying members, are not personal email addresses of ladies displayed or available. Admin@fiance.com were, previously, quick enough to display forum members email addresses thus is it the far off agencies pimping the ladies, whereas one must communicate via the agencies, or fiance.com themselves pimping the ladies. 'Smart Ass' response anticipated :) olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 3:25:30 PM   Martin, stop your accusations please. - delta- if agency doesn't give you address of the lady and phone number, report to admin@fiance.com. agencies should not prohibit ladies from giving personal info, if ladies want to do it. tell admin and we will investigate. - most of girls with private emails, and you gentlemen give your personal mailing address, icq, aol, yahooo right in the first email, nobody cares what you write to each other. fiance.com do not censor your messages to each other. we have to live with the agencies. they still provide service for ladies who do not have emails. and we are trying to weed out those agency who do not follow our rules. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 3:32:08 PM   (we are trying to weed out those agency who do not follow our rules) So display ladies email addresses in their profiles and have done with it, is it really so difficult? olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 3:35:43 PM   yes. it is everybody’s business to disclose personal information. as far as I remember you asked us to hide members email in the forum. now you want to show emails y to everybody:) ask ladies, if they do not give it to you and you do not like it. do not use the site. if you need help as I described, ask admin. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 3:36:52 PM   'Smart Ass' response anticipated :) Told you so ....... olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 3:37:52 PM   oh yea danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 3:42:04 PM   Olegnay, I have obviously touched a nerve and rather than provide a professional response you have responded as if you have just stepped out of a bar, drunk, and squaring up for a fight with another guy declaring 'oh yea'. You will have to excuse me if I decline your unprofessional taunt! olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 5:33:10 PM   my comment was on your "smart ass" comment on my professional comment. soonermike Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 6:40:22 PM   Would it not help if the agency name was on the girls' profile? I am new to this, and I have had a cluster of women write me from the same area. I don't want to go running to admin every time this happens, and I think the agency name tagged to the profile would confirm suspicious activities for the user. Yhis would also alleviate admin's job, wouldn't it? danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 7:07:24 PM   Olegnay, But you have not responded to one particular point, and it is well known that fiance.com financially entice agencies to write letters, WHY not provide a lady's email address, if she can't speak English then she's likely to take the letter to the agency anyway? There are dozens and dozens of sites out there where email addresses are provided or indeed sold for a monthly subscription, fiance.com claims to be so much better but not a single email or IP (security) address is made available to the 'sucker' that should decide to spend USD30 or more per month. How can you prove to your readers, your viewing public, that fiance.com, despite guys paying USD30 or more per month, are not being scammed by pure cyber communications and bugger all, email & IP address, to do a security search on? In my relatively short and previous subscription to fiance.com there was one particularly lady, and apparently corresponding to a lot of guys, encouraging me to write daily letters but as soon as we had, supposedly, arranged a meeting in Nikolaev for the following week she ran away like a scolded cat. It was all about money for letters and to hell with meeting with guys, now if you would care to prove me wrong Olegnay then please feel free. olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2006 7:56:03 PM   martin we don not claim anything. also we did answer questions about compensation to agencies multiple time on this forum. make search and read my post above about agencies not wanting to give a personal info. do not pay for letters. delta9 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/7/2006 12:17:36 AM   now i wait with even greater interest to a reply from Fiance.com admin....this is indeed an interesting situation that i find myself uncomfortable with....mmmmmmmmmmmm. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/7/2006 6:20:24 PM   But Olegnay, You do claim anything, you claim to 'Search and browse more than 15,000 russian brides profiles' but a bride is a lady on her wedding day, at any one time do fiance.com have more than 15,000 ladies getting married. You also claim to 'Send and receive UNLIMITED, UNEDITED e-mails' but these are not in fact emails, they are online communications without email or IP addresses. You also claim 'We verify every russian lady and agency registered with us' but you don't claim to verify any Ukrainian, Uzbek, Moldavian etc. etc. etc lady as you do Russian ladies. You also claim 'Chat with our russian Ladies online', how exactly does one do that via your website? Anything else you would like to deny claiming Olegnay? olegnay Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/7/2006 6:41:45 PM   martin I repeat especially for you. fiance.com is normal dating site. we will get rid of this Russian ladies focus very soon:) email is - electronic message exchanges. give any lady your email address and do whatevre you want. chat via messages, also real time chat is not to far to be open for members. russian brides mean russian ladies looking for marriage. you have your own definition, we have our own. as I said, if one doesn;t lie our system, he shoudl not use it. delta9 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2006 1:02:05 PM   Well Martin....it look's like you are more right than wrong with your shared knowledge and wisdom...i appreciate your comment's and the value they have in them from obvious experience...this forum is a great idea...it is a shame the system of operation at Fiance.com is not equally so. My suggestion to Fiance.com is to make their "so called ladie's" more accessible other than just through their service provision's....but then why would they at their own expense and loss of income?... I joined this site 2 month's ago and of the selected few i made contact with only 2 entered regular contact and interest with me....one turned out to be a known scammer(of which i discovered...not Fiance.com)...and the other one raised my original question here...of which i have no joy and knowledge of her real existance at all ...because a lack of personal information and a system designed to protect this from an interested person for the sake of continued membership and ultimately continued income for Fiance.com. I bought the story of Fiance.com about "their" agency associate's (initially)...though it doe's not take rocket science to work out the arrangement between Fiance.com and "their" agent associate's is one of mutual benefit for them both at my expense. I joined Fiance.com because of the product(women) they are marketing...to have the "buck" passed on to an agency i do not know of, or even know of it's existance... is an act of irresponsibility on behalf of Fiance.com and also a very poor business policy...(that obviously is very profitable to them or they would make the change's and follow the recommendation's of their customer's)...so my experience here has been one i wish to forget and one i shall move on from...good luck to all those using this particular service...if a woman has a private email address it is likely she is a scammer and if she has an "agency" she is likely a figment of Fiance.com's imagination...i will now take my search elsewhere on a more promising premise of meeting a real woman and not just "virtual woman" like those met here.... As you say Olegnay...."if one does'nt like our system,he should not use it"...well i have become one of these men and i challenge you to change your system,your policy,your business practice's... or risk continued loss of income like that of mine.....my membership expire's on the 16th of June and i am happy to let this happen without renewal. Russian brides > Main Forum > Is it True?
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