she has got visa and flight tickets and passport but the authorities wont let her board flight as she says she has got to show 800 euros but she has not got and wondering if that is true or just a scam she wants to visit me the visa lasts one month
ant, this is 100% scam. forget about her. tell her that you send money , gave her some western union 10 digit number:) let her/him to feel taken at the WU stand:) then tell her that you would call WU to find out what is happening. hehe ask her to go to a airport police department , money iwllbe waiting for her there:)
Yes ant..Olga is correct...get used to that story..it is very popular with scammer's....you think they would smarten up and get more original storie's to spin...but alas... the mentality of these people come's straight from the gutter....and lets hope they dont get any smarter.....because they are so obvious to spot with this story....as they are with many other "standard" scamming storie's....all of which i am sure you will be introduced to the longer you persue a woman from FSU.....good luck and beware.
Ant,
You focking idiot, how could you fall for the oldest scam in the book, go to www.womenrussia.com/blacklist.htm and join the long line of guys just like you.
I was almost in the same boat. Fortunately, I found the blacklist in Google. I remembered her telling me Russian men treated women like crap, so I emailed her back and said Russian men were the same in America. The Russian Mafia promised women jobs in America as secretaries, then put them to work as prostitutes. All of this is true, but I took some creative embellishments on the next part. I told her the police were close to shutting down one of their sex houses, and they killed all the women so they couldn't testify. I have never heard from her again. And, she never got a dime. But I wish I would hear from her one more time to thank her. Because of that scammer, I found this site. Now I am planning to take a trip to Moldova to meet a great lady I met here. I got the gold mine, she got the shaft. By the way, my girl isn't blacklisted.
Hold on everybody!!! I know for a fact that a Russian girl entering an Schengen country on a tourist visa ( that is the type of visa issued to up to 3 month visit) must show that she has money to support herself in that country. I know that she must show the money in valid currency to get the visa issued and that is about 650 euros per month, if ( pay notice to this) she can show that the person that is inviting her does provide her a place to stay ( in his home) If she can not prove she has a place to stay the amount of money doubles!!
Here in Iceland the support money per day is 2000 Icelandic krona and 4000 per day if she has no place to stay..2000x30days=60.000=641.84 Euros. You can not as an inviting person gurentee that you will support her, then it is possible for you to misuse her , SHE must show that she got the mony prior leaving to Schengen country. This rules are for a fact here in Iceland and in oather Scandinavia countrys( moastly I think , because they like to have their rules similar). So that means that I have to trust a woman that I barely know for amount of money I must send her so she can make the trip, because that amount of money they never have.
ant! I would check that rules are for this in your country before judging this. I know for a fact that it has come much harder for people in Russia and Ukraine( and oather countrys that are not one of the "new" Europe countrys)to get work or tourist visa to Europe/ Schengen countrys. Countrys in Europe have have had huge increase in drug smuggling attemts and oather crime activitys from the "NEW" Europe countrys, so there are enough problems as is, therefore they have a much more negative look today on issuing visa for people from the rest of the " Estern block"
Olafur,
You too can go to that blacklist link I provided and just read the ticket & visa scams and then she supposedly gets to the airport and needs such money.
Forget visa possibilities because she hasn't even been to the airport, she's sitting at home counting the money and trying for more.
Olafur is right, any person from FSU travelling abroad (even going to that bl..dy Poland) must produce certain amount of money in cash to a customer. The longer our gonna stay the more money you must produce.
And you, comrade Olga , should've known that rule before being so sarcastic, IMHO.
What the problem, Ant? Why not to find a nice girl from your neighbourhood? Your money will be surely saved.
LoL @ people trying to justify sending money. thats funny
BOTTOM LINE: never met = no money
Ant if u have the cash to send her than buy yourself a ticket and get your ass over there. I love these stories about dudes that wanna just package there lady and have her delivered to your front doorstep, sort of like ordering a pizza online, eh?
wanna give cash to someone u never met, throw it out the car window as your driving.
The way, if ever, to go about this is to sponsor her visa application, making a declaration to your government that you will finacially support her during her visit, thus eliminating the airport cash scenario and scam.
Never send money for tickets, book and pay for them them online or at your local travel agent, arrange for her to collect them locally, making sure they are non refundable (by her) tickets, or you can courier them to her.
Now what is remaining? USD50-100 for a visa, if she wants USD500 to travel to the consulate for her visa then tell her to fock off, and she'll need to get to her local airport, let's say a maximum of USD50.
USD150 is a damn site less than what guys are regularly being scammed for and this same scam must have been going on for some 10 years!
Has ant run this lady's name thru a Google search?
Well, I ignore the rules for FSU citizens to enter in Western countries. In my case, my former woman was Australian and I am a European Union Citizen and had to prove I had 4000€ on my bank account to be granted a Visa to enter Australia, and show a letter from her family showing their income since they were going to provide a logement for me.
I must say that this was not an ordinary 3 month tourist visa, but a 6 month special visa, but without right to work there.
So, I am aware of scams, but also I wonder if that many girl´s salaries on these conutries are low and travel expenses are high, it is so strange that they would need economical help to travel to your country?
In my country many inmigrants from these countries offer money to locals to get married and get a residence.
I guess that if many of these girls would have the money to travel and to support a possible failure in their stay, they would probably just travel here directly and try to find a residence and a couple once they´re here.
I suppose that it is just difficult to know if your dealing with an scammer or real innocent girl that really thinks that his man would pay for her to visit his country.
ant, do what Martin and I said. Run her name through Google. Google is good, Google is wise. But my scammer had a new name, so it didn't come up. I actually looked through every pic one by one. I almost went cross-eyed, but I saved alot of money. I suggest you do the same, unless you won't miss the money. If you have that kind of money, wanna adopt me?
ello lads i was just reading through the posts,i certainly don't say much on forum as i feel the only way to find out all is correct / not correct is to go to the place , and do it yourself .
Learning from one's own mistakes! for what its worth -well if you listen to me or not iam not really fussed ! everybody these days will in fact believe what they wish to .
Everybody is different in both expectations and what they visit the place for ( be it like most aussies favour !) the ''forever girlfriend '' type life ( which i can tell you is far less a headache ! than the marriage trail!
Or you can go down the chequered trail -thats surrounded by deception , wroughts whatever?
At the end of the day ive several tips for you ( iam a seven year veteran - many trips - got a great girl in the end, but ohh talk of a minefield !!.
The visa scam --send monies -- no forget it -like some guy said drive around toss it out your car window = same result and giving them $$$ .
[ a good tip from yours truly --if speaking to her on a intro line -and when you are both keen on each other - yet you look on the line and she is still registered as live to speak to others - ok give her the axe !!! as if genuine she would deregister at once ( i mean how many guys does she want? ) = crooked girl thats what it equals .
[Another good tip you know you go there and after 2 weeks she turns turtle on you - no not allowed ! she obviously has zero idea of the $$$ involved of you being there . don't wear that for one second -----get that all ironed out and starched with her before you leave home.
None of this rubbish ohh my dear prince i like you and thanks for solving my poverty problem whilst you were hear -- its a shame the fares and accom cost you 6k -very sad she says -hope you find your diamond in life ---( as she races back to her $300 a month job ).
[ the other ruse you know of how they were all going ok --until you turned up suddenly thier world collapses financialy --eg the rent is due ! mum's sick ,ohh its clothes i need ! all the rackets you know - dont fall like a buffalo for all that crap.
[i fell for all that years ago - but then you meet a few guys like 1 aussie i met whom really did have it all ''down pat''. and you soon realise that you have had ATM, scrawled on your back ! and Prize mug '' written on your T shirt .
[i followed guidence of the couple of aussies i met and i was instantly on the right trail .
[ still some pit falls ! and yes if they speak to many on these intro sites -instead of just you well i would not entertain them for a moment .as that spells deciet with a capitol D. ( SPECIALY WHEN THEY HAVE COME THE COMMITMENT TO YOU ).
The scammers look i dont know there are so many twists and turns in thier roads that ok like some have said you can search on google find your scammer and next day she is all brand new again with all new pics .
I think the way around the scammers is say well i will help you dear ( but when iam thier and its face to face )! ask phone number / address - if you dont get it at once then thier is something rotten in the fridge .
Remember there are millions of them ! you can take your pic lay cards on table - no nonsence cards be direct - dont fall for all the head cases ohh do i love you / do i not its all rubbish ! either they want a good guy look after them forever or not!its really that simple ! good looking girls -sure - you might look like a water buffalo - but that means nothing ! age i found well to me means nothing ( mine is 25 years my juniour -i dont have a worry !)
In cases in the world well in our situation western guys -dont lose sight of exactly whom holds all the golden offers -------we do --as so many others have commented on forums ! we have the tickets to the far better life ------apart from real good looks and $300 a month what else can they offer to us .
Once you lose sight of those facts then you are ruled buy under your belt - you lose your mind then , your edge , your rationale, ----never forget whom is thier for whom!
Any guy whom goes there and is cast in the spare room so to speak whilst she dwells on wheather she loves him or not is getting a total raw deal - love him or not the very least she can do in gratitude is give him / a sterling good time for all his huge expences and commitment for trying to make something work for her .
ANY girl whom gets a guy to go there meets him , and then decide' he's not the one ! and there is no good time ! well thats the untimate insult --going to let the man down at least have the decency to let him go home with a great memory of a great bedtime !
its cost him --what for generalisation sake ($5000/ $7000 ) be the dearest bad time in his life (its cost the girl nothing !!) after all his trouble visas planes , savings .
Guys we all go thier for one thing anybody who says they do not is a Liar !- what they seemingly dont realise / cant see is that we can trot down to our local house of ill fame get the satisfaction on the spot --its not going to cost us $7000 is it !
Over 7 years of going to russia / ukraine ive come to total conclusion we are doing them a huge favour - costing ourselves lots of dollars to boot.
the least they can do is try try try a lot harder to hold up thier end of the bargain .
One last thing and i found this too was just not acceptable -they keep working whilst your there the ohhh il meet you at 4 pm ! no its not good enough make sure they have as much free time as you do -----dont listen to the rubbish ohh i can't do it ! if she wants you as other half / she will make it happen anything less in a wrought.
I never would go to see mine with 3 free weeks up my sleave if she could not match my free time with hers.
erock, go to stop-scammers.com There are other sites out there, but this is the one I used. It worked for me, I hope you don't find a girl on there you know. It really sucks.
There must be two dozen sites with all the scammers on them , a few overlap though with the names on every site !
Tell you what though not all are scammers id say 20% have had thier pics and details pinched from them and are used by real scammers without the girls knowledge as i know of a girl recently married to a guy whom was written up as a acammer everywhere --ive met her , she aint no scammer thats for sure .
She was the VICTIM !
JUST ANOTHER OF RUSSIAS LOVELY UNKNOWN PIT FALLS ! the innocent get crucified too.
NOT GOOD !
And when you think its all for just a few $$$ --i really dont know why they bother as i could hardly say its a ''big bux '' industry at what $30 of one guy $40 off another, huh in western country nobody would bother ay ----------why would you risk jail time for $100 or so.
$100 not even worth drawing breath over - i would not get out of bed for $200 !!!!!
Yet they risk all for minute reward --scammers /not scammers most of em just desperate ! the amount makes no sence - i could understand if they stood to get $10,000 a time ( then id cry scammer).
but reading the write ups what girl skinning a guy - i read somewhere for $25 and the dill did a 4 page writeup on the bird ! why would you bother ???? what 25 bux must have been his last lol lol lol lol- either that or he's a miserable p----k!
mike .
ps i give $3000 a year to mine just to have a spend up - yet you see guys in tears over $20?? ohh god give it to em fer f-----k sake ! whats $20 ??? = two packets of smokes - only make us sick anyway and iam sure a russian puts $20 to good use --eg - food !
Big time scammer -get to be big time because guys fill the pot with $$$ -common sence guys the visa scam is obvious -the mums sick scam needs an opp has been around since roman days --i mean anything that involves amounts $250 usd and above smells like tinea its so obvious !
The $15 / $50 girls --no they are not scammers i feel confident totally that they fall into the ( down on your luck catagorie ) i personaly in 7 years would have sent hmm let me think 20 girls or 22 girls = what $30/ $60 each
never met em ( WHO CARES ) but somebody needs bit of help i mean who cares --we are aussies -we'll only blow it down the pub anyway , may as well see somebody get the benifit --i mean hell $30/ $60 hey whats that these days to western civilisation -well where i live $30 wont buy you 1 hour in the hotel !
I will admit though i WONT help an aussie girl - not under any circumstances - whats your reward --NIL !
I must say i get a bit of a laugh they are enterprizing ( good on em ) and for the hard luck girls the $30/ $60 jobs good on em ! if you cant earn it your options really aint much are they .
i mean what does a girl do - get $30 off a bloke - or race in off the street and rob a shop ? i know which scanario i would opt for --the guys $30 is a safer bet ay lol lol lol.