V For Vendetta (2005) - is S for Subervise, about a man for all treasons. Fiction.
Syriana (2005) - Rat race to the last of world's known oil. Fiction.
Munich (2005) - The neverending revenge. True story.
Noriega: God's Favorite (2001)- How drug trade through Americas in the 1980's supported officials, cartels and cold wars, biggest of which was CIA-jihad in Afghanistan, initiated to drain out Soviets as they had drained out Americans in Vietnam, nearly crashing the dollar. True story.
Doomsday Gun (1994) - Canadian geneius Dr. Gerald Bull's superguns. However, only customer is Saddam. Your enemy needs a $100,000 rocket to strike you, but all you need is $100 gunpowder to reach your enemy. True story.
Steal the Sky (1987) - A sexy Israeli spy entices an Iraqi airforce pilot to defect with his supersonic MiG-21 fighter. True story.
Unfortunately a movie can be based on a true story and still misrepresent a lot of facts - incl. misrepresenting the characters!
We all know that Moses did not look like Charlton Heston and talked that way. The problem is when people from our own time are depicted by people with a political slant.
Question is did the "CIA-jihad" end in 1989 when Soviets pulled out of Afghanistan, or did it continue into Chechnians against Russians, Algerian against French (Euro is a threat to the dollar & EU might be a future threat to the US), Kosovars against Serbs, Sinkiang Muslims against Chinese, or even 9/11?
"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor." From Rebuilding America’s Defenses — Strategy, Forces, and Resources for a New Century, page 51, Project for the New American Century (PNAC), September 2000.
A.J., the only CIA conspiracy you left out was the Kennedy assasination. Tell the truth, you think the moon landing was shot an a Hollywood sound stage, don't you?
No latermike, moon landing was real. As to JFK, I agree with Speilburg in that Martin Luther King, John and Bobby Kennedy assasinations were by the same group, who believed that the three weren't right for America. See The Thirteen Days, about the cuban missile crisis.
Thirteen Days (2000) - How John and Bobby Kennedys resisted the hardliners surrounding them in winning peace over war, when Soviets sought to deploy nukes in Cuba in retaliation for US nukes in Turkey. A general commented something to the tone of: "Those Kennedys are gonna destroy this country."
Ouch, "later"mike. I'm crying in my Kool-Aid. I haven't seen Thirteen Days. I don't look to Hollywood for a history lesson. But I do know if Jimmy Carter had listened to the CIA, the Islamic Revolution probably wouldn't have happened in Iran and he sure as hell wouldn't have been surprised when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan. The CIA did good work in Afghanistan, then Bush 41 screwed it up by pulling out and not backing the Northern Alliance. Then Clinton made Carter look like a foreign affairs guru with his anti CIA policies and outright refusal to listen to what they had to say about Africa. So if the CIA had ops in Chechnya, Chechens wouldn't be bombing Russian airplanes, school children, and theatres. Had the CIA had any influence in Bosnia, Milosovich would've been dead, not in the Joke- I mean the Hague. And as far as 9/11, I would like to think Africa could've prevented that. That is why I jokingly replied to your post, Apple Jacks.
Are you trying to say that you're a CNN fan?
Of course, Carter wasn't surprised over Soviet invasion because Soviets were lured into invading (now here's your reading lesson - The Grand Chessgame by Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carter's NSA) by CIA destablizing the pro-Soviet regime. Carter was a good man, but got cornered after the Iranian Revolution.
I like to hear how Africa would have prevented 9/11?
JFK:
1. Sought to put an end to the cold war
2. Sought to abolish the Federal Reserve Bank
3. Denied Israelis the nukes
4. Sought to restrain CIA under joint chiefs of staff
5. Resisted Vietnam
"For in the final analysis, our most basic common link, is that we all inhabit this small planet, we all breathe the same air, we all cherish our children's futures, and we are all mortal."
Sorry, I forgot the only movie out there on Africa was Black Hawk Down. Give it another ten years, they may make one. Then you'll understand how close we were to planting Bin Laden in the ground. Yeah Zawahiri was the brains, but without Osama's money, nothing happens. Also, when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, Carter's response was "I can't believe he (Brezhnev) lied to me!". So yes, he was surprised. Carter got cornered by the revoluton because he backed off his support of the Shaw. Fine, he had moral problems with the Shaw, but suck it up and look at the big picture. Had he helped the Shaw cut down the corruption in Iran, Kohmeini's coup never happens. Great, you like Carter. I applaud his work with Habitat, but he was out of his league when it comes to foreign affairs, and we are still paying for it today. And as for being a CNN fan, I used to watch it to get a say's notice on where in the world I was going next. However, I lost all respect for them in Africa. I haven't watched CNN in over a decade.
-Just a few theories on history to discuss with your Russian bride while you are resting on the polar bear skin in front of the fireplace sipping champagne on the third day of your honeymoon....
Flight 93 - A 9/11 flight crashes 20 minutes short of target - Magic Bullet here is that planes disappear off radar when transponder is turned off. Planes remain visible, only without an identifier, such as a flight number, and altitude.
1980's was a decade of the covert cowboys. Carter had fired many at the CIA, who, with their buddies still at the CIA - Bush Sr. was an ex-CIA chief, and a vice president contender - delayed the US Embassy at Tehran hostage release until after the elections, causing Carter to lose and Reagan to win. So, Reagan owed it to them.
Trying to abolish the Federal Reserve alone would get you killed.
Geraiatrix, I think I'll have better things to do by the fireplace than giving history lessons, but it happens, I have the time for such.
As to Mike's "if the CIA had ops in Chechnya, Chechens wouldn't be bombing Russian airplanes, school children, and theatres", during the "CIA-jihad", USAID provided funding to the University of Nebraska at Omaha and its Center for Afghanistan Studies to develop textbooks (more than 200 titles) in the Dari and Pashtu languages for distribution among jihadis. Textbooks contained jihadi literature with violent images. MI-6 thought jihadis would be better fighters if animal within could be brought out.
"... Geraiatrix, I think I'll have better things to do by the fireplace than giving history lessons,....."
Yes, for some reasons I believed that political movies were a bit removed from the central issues here....
(but, who knows what you want to lecture your Russian bride on...?
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Geraiatrix, I thought your message was intended for me, but apparently not, because it's not my topic. I'm just a participant, like yourself. Many topics are off, not just this one in particular.
Yes, in Flight 93, where were those Langly and Ottis fighters on 9/11? Well, they had been sent off to Alaska for military exercises.
Geraiatrix, if your message is intended for me, the answer is Kama Sutra. That gives me the idea for a new topic, but will Olga allow it? We'll see, right?
Kama Sutra is not a Political movie (not yet as far as I know), but, yes, it might be another option for something to discuss in front of the fireplace while you rest and sip champagne on your Honeymoon....
(and your bride might even find the topic more interesting than a movie about President Nixon or somebody like that....)