Firstly Aussieman complains of a lot of ladies, he complains of ladies from Moscow, SPb, Cheboksary, Yoshkar Ola, Kazan, all of Ukraine and indeed India also. One has to ask why Aussieman is interested in foreign ladies and that would probably be because he has complaints about Australian ladies also.
Women will be women wherever one goes, there is not a perfect woman on this earth and the sooner some people stop searching for her then the sooner they will perhaps be happier in their lives and with fewer frustrations.
With regards to what Mike00 says it is wrong to gereralize, to be human is to be different one one cannot say that an entire nation are all the same. That said there is an element of thruth in what Mike says in that it is a minefield out there and these mines are not marked, one has to detect them and often the hard way.
I have trodden on a few mines previously and on each occasion I either returned to the start or I took another route, another option. But, with determination, and indeed a few years experience, one learnt how to make it through the minefield and when reaching the other side knew what he was looking for and I found her although it did take a few years of trying.
Any guy that thinks he's going to land at an FSU airport and pick up a genuine lady just like that is naive in the extreem, it takes determination and a lot of effort but there is sincere happiness to be found but it's not easy, one has to work for it.
artin i hear you ------ you are correct in most ways i guess though its ''horses for courses '' yes.
Ive no intention of marrying like several other aussies i know whom go to FSU so brings a point to mind in our case ( well iam ok ive just crossed into the 29th month with my lovely iam not having a worry with her .)
She knows where the ''bread is buttered '' and to not stay with me from moment iam off the plane well --------she knows id never return to her .
Most aussies i know actually --- I WOULD say near all of them would NOT GO ! TO FSU unless the bird stayed with em from day one --------and in every way and form ( i mean to say whats thier part of the deal ?) for our HUGE FARES from aussie hell id not even contemplate going there and arriving at 8.30 not being with your lovely the next 21 days from 8.35 onwards.
THE GUYS whom go to get married well its a whole different ball game you know 3 meetings cost yourselves 17k oh you go through all the hurdles ( does she love me etc ) ohh god mummy hates me iam out the door !!!!!! you guys have obviously got the long term, marriage thing in mind and for what you guys go through i tip my hat to you --but marriage does not suit everyone ! certainly not my mob !
Not against it !! as i say "horses for courses" = everybodies different and just quietly there are thousands of good sorts in FSU that really do curl up the lip at marriage ! not everybody is killing for it.
Actually such an act on thier part as this ''play the game ''ohh you stay to hotel me go talk to mum for 3 days --no lol lol that sort of caper would near drive me to violence .
I absolutely adore my darling but ( but she has never done the "rudy" on me in that respect ) --everybody has to know why the other is thier hmmm , its not even sex all the time ---- i just absolutely adore thier company and i detest being alone !!
you could not pay me $1000 to sit in chair and try and enjoy the company of these horrible creatures we have hear in aussie ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!! NO id say keep your money !!!
HEY if i want to be in a room on my own well i can sit at home leave my $5700 that it cost me last time in the bank ay ........no way known in my trips would i put up with the crap -- the heartstrings stuff .
I have huge respect for them believe i do otherwise id not have kept mine in the style i have done would i --AND I TRUST HER for the just on 7 months of the year iam not there .
Mate they know why we are thier --they are not silly --but at days end i reackon any aussie / kiwi / whomever who goes there at such huge expence papers all the hoops as you well know its a tall order just going there .
well then we have done our part we have laid the cloak over the puddle so to speak ! so any bird whom reneggs on the guy ( with the ohh i wont stay with you caper mate she deserves to be jailed ).
Iam not a dill ive seen so much there -- desperate bird as you / i both know will not hesitate in dire situation to lose her pants to a drunken abusive russian for the rent ! now long termers going there cant say they have never seen things of this ilk .
But the cigar guys such as one self whom loves to spoil iam happy to give my love my $$$ , well most girls could take a page out of my girls book i believe .
look after your man he's yours forever -----its so simple !!
Any girl whom does NOT stay with the bona fide westerner after all his efforts well il use thier lingo ------------she to behave badly !!!)
Whats her choice mate at days end -------the bombastic drunken ruskie who will rob her on the way out -------or the westerner whom il put her betwixed silk sheets maybe forever and a day !( this takes exactly 10 seconds to decide ?") 12345678910 --westerner yup !!!!!!!!!!
We always pay for it martin nomatter whom says what . ! the 5 birds ive had over the years all up from FSU --ive furnished most all thier apartments ! ive splashed on the clothes ive gotten rid off over 110k usd in just over 7 years --- if i wanted to give all away for zero loyalty in return id have given the 110k plus to deft dumb society !
yes !!!or the church !!!!
I look after a few girls --friends of the girlfriends - and when a mate sees one of the birds well we sometimes play matchmaker -----but its ALL quiet clear the mear Remote thought of HER not staying with the GUY from day one --my god id never even phone travel agents in that situation .
Why would you go there if not to be with your lovely??? ( my girl when first met We did stay together from day / night 1 --i can be alone hear for nothing ?? why would you bother going there if not FOR the darlings???.
YOU CAN GET PALACES ON POSTCARDS !$2 IN THE MAIL we chaps have done all the tourist bit years ago ---graduated to the " shaken not stirred ".
My girl -----her sister --and her sisters best friend all with aussie guys they know the rules its day 1 ----------or everybody "has none" so to speak AND WE SPOIL EM ROTTEN !
Of course they have a choice --head back to the drunken russian with vodka bottles gracing the front door and violence to burn ---or one can cross the street be pampered to death and end up with everything they dreamed off ( and for free !!)--------choice is thiers??? we get no complaints !!!!
Last trip i took mine Yoshkar -ola to Moscow first closs on train - stuffed $600 usd in purse told her ok lets get rid of this $600 lets splash in clothes ( tell you what- leggy blond looks very very nice in fish net stockings ) i could put her in chaff bag she'd still look georgous !
( our girls do NOT not stay with you !!!!!!) they do apprieciate whats savou
This is kind of a stale thread, but honestly, Kyiv is not the best location for searching for a girl. It is very urban and there is a bad attitude by many girls there. I agree with some of the posters who urge you to take your time. My fiancee and I wrote each other for more than 6 months before I visited the first time. We met and over two weeks got to know each other "in person" with the help of a translator. Every gift I gave her while we were writing was unsolicited by her, and occasionally she would ask why. We had some misunderstandings which is expected and sort of broke up but when I was coming again later that year she wanted to meet again. She wondered why I was not patient. So minor problems solved we started up again. I made a bad mistake culturally and she let me know it! She was not feeling well and I personally dropped off a small gift of cheese she liked and some flowers. Perfectly fine in the US but not Ukraine! I had not been introduced to her mother or step-father and she was not happy I dropped off the package in person. Well It has been a couple of years total but our relationship is on track. She still thinks I should not spend so much on her when I visit. She does not understand that it is really minor compared to the cost of living in the US and the travel expense to come to Ukraine. We are discussing where we want to live after we are married, so nothing has been finalized though I am suggesting fiancee visa to US to see how she likes it. Then maybe a civil ceremony there finish the paperwork so she can be freely readmitted to the US and then go to Ukraine for a bigger church wedding for all of her family and friends. I am lucky in that I arrange for apartments to stay at that have high speed internet and I can work from Ukraine when she is busy working. The trip cost can be really minimized by using discount airline fares, rent an apartment and cook a lot of your meals instead of eating out ... and unless your true love is there, Kyiv is a place to visit for a weekend; it is very expensive now. As an example I am paying $350 (USD) for the apartment for the month. But I am hundreds of miles/kilometers from Kyiv in "The City of Brides", Nikolaev.
Aussie has the most practical approach of them all, but just like you know. A girl can also lie through her teeth and present her best false front in all her communications (as what happened in my case). I did not realize the extent of my girl's 6-months worth of letter writing were mainly all lies until after I had flown to meet her and after the moment I said in person that I was not a multi-millionaire on our second date. After that moment happened, her real side appeared...
Funny thing is, I dated prettier girls than her that didn't require a rich husband. It's something in the water down there. :)'
Girls are just going to have to know I am not super rich in first letters. Has anyone tried that approach?