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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Sex on the first date.... 10th? Author Post interiors45 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2006 3:21:21 PM   I am making plans with my first prospective girl for a two week visit. She will be coming here. Are Russian women like American women, all different? Are they on the average more relaxed on sexual subjects, or the opposite? Is their a national "properness" involved? Should I offer her her own bedroom on the first night, or expect to be together? Should I expect sex on the first night? The fifth night? Not at all this trip? She is a wonderful girl and I dont want to seem innappropriate with too much or not enough affection. I am very confident we will get along great, there will not be any awkwardness, and we have talked about both enjoying frequent intimacy. Of course, I would love to be with her the minute we arrive home from the airport, but I dont want to seem like a clumsy "clod" because I'm not aware of their customs. I just dont want to "blow it"..... HELP!!! danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2006 6:32:38 PM   Interiors, Presuming that the two of you haven't met yet, this detected from you talking of sex on the first night or whatever, please explain how she is obtaining her USA visa and please explain, if you would like to, what type of visa it is. I only mention this because the second most common scam in the book is the 'I love you, you send me money for tickets & visa and I come to you'. If she talks about intimacy in letters, before any meeting, then that is very much a warning sign. The chances of her getting a tourist visa to the USA are about zero, I would guess that the visa costs less than USD100, how much has she quoted, and so it goes on. The golden rule is never to send money to somebody whom you haven't yet met. Please excuse me if I am mistaken but I'd hate to see another be taken in by such a scenario. pakio Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2006 7:13:34 PM   I don't think that Russian women are assembled in-line like Ford T's. Each one is different. Some become pornstars, and others refuse sex before marriage... It is usually a mistake to go to a date with a woman with a "plan". Believe me, I have done many stupid things because I tried to keep my "plan" in a date with a girl, when it was not right for the moment. You will know (you should) what to do when you are together. Be spontaneous and natural. If you both feel comfortable in the first night, and want it, go for it. ...If she arrives to the airport, like Martin suggested. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2006 8:17:11 PM   Got to admit... this one interests me as well. Unless she has business in America, has been here and established before, etc. etc. etc. this story seems like the punch line of that often used scam. If this is the SECOND most popular scam as a writer above suggests, not quite sure what the most popular would be. I would contend that this is #1. Please, interiors45, furnish us with more details. And if you have not yet furnished her with money for her requested visa and plane ticket - for goodness sake DON'T! You will never see it (or her) again. The story of a guy showing up with roses in hand, at the airport watching as the last person gets off the plane, and realizing that you've been scammed for many hundreds of dollars - is unfortuantely reality way too often. Don't let it be you. danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/3/2006 8:44:19 PM   jetmba, The first most popular scam is money for correspondence ..... even before the 'I love you' stage. soonermike Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2006 1:03:14 AM   interiors Google her name and see what comes up. There's a good chance she's on a scammer registry. I had the same thing happen on Yahoo and Match, but I didn't lose a dime. I may be wrong (hopefully for you we all are), but this sounds way wrong. If she is legit, just go with the flow. Don't be shy about it, ask her if you should get the guest room ready or clear out a couple of your dresser drawers. Give her the option. But for the love of God DO NOT SEND MONEY!!!! jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2006 1:09:50 AM   As long time readers of this forum undoubtedly know, I have never relied on written correspondence to find women in Eastern Europe, nor have I advocated going for women who speak no English. Call it a matter of preference or a sound strategy, but it has never made me victim to either of these scams, fortunately. Still, if one has set his sights on a Russian woman with no English speaking ability, and said girl has somehow gotten herself listed on an English language site, given the limited income of these girls and the policies of some agencies it seems plausable that "money for correspondence" (a small amount for translation and use of the internet) might not be unreasonable. Even though it violates rule #1 "Don't send money to someone you have never met!" ESPECIALLY if the resulting correspondence seems real and legitimate (ie it direct questions are answered, no "boiler plate" letters, no other requests for money). THIS ONE though in ENITIRELY scam. A two-week tourist visa to the US cannot generally be gotten at any price. And this scam calls for a huge outlay hit all at once. I actually know someone who, despite my best warnings, was scammed for $850 via this techique. He denies it today, out of embarrasment. But those who know him well claim he actually showed up at the airport with roses in hand........ danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2006 1:29:48 AM   jet, Money for genuine correspondence at realistic prices is one thing, something of a grey area, but that wasn't what I was referring to but hey let's not drift away from the matter in hamd, I have a bad feeling that a guy is being, or about to be, scammed thus let's leave the page open for interiors45. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2006 5:41:33 AM   Jet Getting a tourist visa to a western country may be difficult but not impossible. Earlier this year I had two women from Russia, visit me while they were here on holiday in New Zealand. One had previously been to the US and Australia, but reckoned NZ gave her the most trouble. Another Russian woman I went out with for a few months came here on a student visa. No trouble at all. Could be another option for getting your girl into the country. Of course I didnt fund any of this because Im a mean bastard. Let their perants pay. Thats what theyre there for. DrKoop Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2006 11:17:50 AM   Some American consular receive kick backs from some large travel agencies, so there is such a thing as buying a tourist visa to the US. But, of course, such dealings require referrals or caution, else you may be handing your money to scammers. The worst consequences for such American consular is that they would be recalled to the Department of State, and reassigned locally, which is not exactly a deterance, but instead an acceptable risk. In the federal club, no one really cares. interiors45 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2006 1:39:05 PM   Thanks for all of your responses. I apparently did not make some important facts known.One, I have not even started into checking into how/when to bring her here. We are both very excited about meeting because we have "clicked" so well, but have not gotten into details yet. Two, she speaks fluent English, so I'm not worried about that. Three, she has a very good job, and has not asked for any money. In fact , she mentioned that she has been saving since we first started being interested in each other (about 7 months ago). She has never asked for even partial help. As far as I'm concerned, All I'm going to do is pick her up at the airport. Thats my innitial committment. I am a business owner in a business where many scams go on, so I usually feel I can recognise one. I dont feel like that is the situation here. Of course I could be wrong. I hope not...... skiired Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2006 3:21:42 PM   Just a thought interior from experience. Phonecalls, letters are 10% 90% will come from the actual meeting- don't be surprised if she will not sleep with you until your second meeting If you are going to send her money to come to you I guess you must be a gambling man. good luck Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2006 12:31:44 AM   Interiors It all sounds good mate. 7 months, you are not in much of a hurry are you. You could have problems with her visa, so it could be worth thinking about alternatives. If you are sure about the girl, romantic holidays can be a good way to start a relationship. Places like Egypt,Turkey and Dubai are easy for them to get into. When you first meet, just relax and treat her like you would, any woman you care about, on the first date. Not too relaxed, dont fall asleep -)) EZE Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/7/2006 4:09:37 PM   In case you haven't researched this forum, or others on the subject.... It is almost impossible to bring a single Russian girl to the USA on a tourist Visa. More likely you will have to travel there. Besides, if things go well and everything is on the up and up she will insist you meet her family. ITSONLYMONEY Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/8/2006 6:26:20 PM   I JUST CAME BACK FROM MY 2 WEEK TRIP TO KIEV AND I WAS IN SAME SPOT YOU ARE IN !!! DO I RENT A 1 BED ROOM OR 2 BED ROOM ?? WHEN DO I MAKE MY MOVE ?? I CAN ONLY TELL YOU HOW I PLAYED IT . I GOT A 2 BED ROOM I AM 34 AND SHE IS 21 . SEX NEVER HAPPENED FOR ME BUT IT WILL BE WORTH THE WAIT. IF YOU THINK YOU WILL MARRY THIS GIRL , WAIT THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF TIME FOR THAT . I HAD TO LISTEN TO ALL MY FRIENDS ADVISE ON THE SUBJECT OF SEX, BUT I AM GLAD I DID NOT PUSH THE ISSUE . BUT THATS ME AND SHE WAS ONLY 21 geriatrix Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/9/2006 10:44:01 PM   "Sex on the first date.... 10th?" Whatever you do, follow Baden Powell's advice to boy scouts: "Be Prepared." Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Sex on the first date.... 10th?
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