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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > What to think about it... Author Post thomasm3 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2006 5:50:11 AM   Hello, I met a girl from Chuvashia online. All I know is that her name is Irina and that she is gorgeous. Already in the first email she said that she would like not to waste time and meet in person "as it says more than 100 emails". I've been communicating with her for about 3 weeks and asked her if we could meet. It went silent then, but after 4 days I received an email, saying that she really wants to meet me, but she thinks it's better to meet in Moscow, because she doesn't want to introduce me to her family before meeting me and getting to know me. There is no mention of love or anything. She asked if I can arrange my hotel myself or whether she needs to do it. I would really like to meet her, but something seems not right. Her travelling 500 miles to meet me...I just need an opinion. Let's say I go there, she doesn't show up, well ok, then I've seen Moscow and lost 300 euro for the plain ticket + some hotel expenses. Are there other weird things I could encounter if it turns out to be a scam (like her coming over with 4 guys to empty my pockets or something similar). I would appreciate any advice. pakio Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2006 12:25:35 PM   Thomas, You don't know her full name? Her address, phone number...? Her photos look real, or may be scanned from a model's magazine? There are agencies that can check her identity for you for some 20-40$ dollars (if you have a name and address to check). Have she asked you for money to go to Moscow? (she may wait till you are there to do it) May she think you are rich? It makes sense to me that she want to meet you before introducing you to her family and that she doesn't talk about love yet (that's a good sign). I also think is normal that she would want to meet you in the big city, if she's from am small, or ugly town, and thinks that you will not enjoy your trip and get a bad impression. I suppose that, if she doesn't show up, you can always cross the doorstep of any contact/marriage agency there and maybe get a date with another woman. Anyway, always think positive. Everyone should be presumed innocent... (specially if she looks gorgeous). Gather as much information as possible from her, and then decide if she's real. Pakio PS: I mentioned in this forum a case of a man that went to Romania and was robbed and beaten there by the girl and her gang (this was reported to me by a romanian girl I know that lives here). It seems that this is not usual in Russia. thomasm3 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2006 6:35:08 PM   Thanks Pakio. No, she didn't ask for money, yet. I didn't give her any info about my financial status, but I guess that for them 200 bucks is a lot of money, so I guess most of western men would be seen as 'rich'. What puzzles me, is that she wants to meet, and is willing to travel 500 miles. Maybe she's just out for a good few days in Moscow, or am I paranoid. The pictures (I think 6 of them) are all taken in a studio, by a profesional. No spanshots, but she mentioned that she was modelling a few years back. So, what should I do next ? Get her full name and address ? But this may turn her off as it comes rather that I don't trust her completely. I may come up with an excuse of willing to send her flowers, but it's so obvious :-). Yes, I read the story about the man who went to Romania, and it keeps playing my mind. As I said, she doesn't love me after 3 weeks, she just wants to get to know me better. I went through all the scam sites, but could not find her picture nor email address listed. On the other hand, a woman like her, should probably receive 20 emails a day, so I'm not sure what she's up to. Real or does she just want to have a good time on my expense. wmferg Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2006 7:44:38 PM   Thomas, It is not unusual to meet in a different city. I have met two ladies in a city other than where they lived. After a couple of days we went to their homes amd I was introduced to her family and friends. The first, just did not work out, the second has just received her K-1 visa and will arrive om August 19th. That being said...be careful you are not being used for a shopping trip. As to the situation in Romania...that is not common and could happen anywhere, in fact a similar thing happened here and in live in a rual area. I communicated with both ladies for 1 Yr and then 8 months repectively. She should appreciate the fact that you are traveling half way around the world to see her and should allow some time to feel each other out so to speak before you invest the funds and time it will take to go visit. Bill danny3777 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/4/2006 8:40:06 PM   Bill, Please be very careful what you say about meeting in different cities and shopping trips, I agree with you entirely but there is one 'disrupter' on this forum who obviously has problems away from this forum, perhaps marital problems, who 'flames' the idea that meeting in a different city could be anything but genuine. Martin Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2006 2:34:03 AM   Martin You are just being your usual disruptive self. All you are doing is trying to drag on a feud you have been having for years and it is getting boring pakio Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2006 4:19:31 AM   Thomas, I would definetely go for a meeting with a girl in a different city. If that's Moscow, much better. A big city offers many more possibilities for a first meeting. You are going to spend time together with someone that you have never seen before, so, better if you have different options of entertaining at your grasp. But I would not think seriously on organizing a meeting (buy tickets and make reservations) if I don't know her full name, address and haven't talk to her on the phone. I am not sure either how much you can trust professional studio photos. I am sure that many have been terribly dissapointed when meeting in reality... pakio Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2006 5:22:39 AM   Thomas, The mere fact that she asked if you'd arrange your accomodation yourself I'd take as proof she only wants to meet you, see you, judge you - nothing else. The fact that she suggests to meet in another town makes sense, this being somewhat anonymous in contradiction to 'at home' where, slowly but surely, a stigma is developing around this 'meeting foreigners' thing. Besides, would you take a blind date to your parents/friends on your first meeting? 3 weeks or 300, no difference, one cannot love somebody per email, with our without pics, and she clearly knows this. That said, I'm not so sure about you? Careful Thomas, hitting it of with the first one is rare I'd say. Of course you can ask, anytime, for her personal details, even her mobile number. You're planning to visit her right? And she's got your full details too? Then get her details and speak to her, the latter a thing I would do in any case before making up my mind. But what are you afraid of? You distrust her to the extent that she'll organize a setup for you, in a city far from her own on top of that? If so don't go, you're not self-secure enough. But if you are go & see Moscow, and hope to meet her there too. If she doesn't show (and no, you won't send money, she has to get there on her own account) you'll see a great city, and don't think for a second that you'll be the only tourist. I'd not even bargain on going to agencies once there, just have fun and see things. If she does meet you there though what a bargain, and you can take it from there. All these so-called spending sprees some are paranoid about begin with you voluntarily opening your wallet, you hear? Guys without a backbone do this, those easily intimidated by a beautiful face or an unfamiliar environment, but it begins with you. Only you know who you are, judge yourself. Just in case, most hotels in Russia do not require a deposit, just tell them when you'll be there. For your ticket you can take out an anulling insurance, so you'd be able to cancel whenever you feel like it without it costing you much. Live dangerously for a change Thomas, and I only say this because you come across as highly insecure, you're seeing ominous ghosts. What can you loose - some money? If you can't afford that don't go. Otherwise do and have some fun, you even might meet someone you will like. pakio Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2006 6:08:06 AM   As for the possibility of being a scam... It that's the case, most probably she she plan to meet you, charm you, and then ask you for money once you have returned. It happens a lot. I suppose you read what happened to Cycleserg with an ukranian woman. If that was a scam... Let's hope it is not. soonermike Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/5/2006 12:57:25 PM   If she wants to meet in another city, put yourself in her shoes. It may take her awhile to find the right man. A bad reputation could be made by parading foreign men around in front of a small hometown full of family and friends. Then, if you two click, and she invites you home, you are in. This site is full of serious women, scammers are pretty well shaken out by admin. I say go for it, too many others have had happy endings when meeting women in other cities. Unfortunately, some disruptor has caused one very good thread on this same situation to be removed. It would've been a great read for you. thomasm3 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/6/2006 5:09:07 AM   Thanks guys. No I'm not insecure, just wondering if she wants a shopping trip to moscow. You should see her, I'm sure she can get any guy she wants in her town and beyond. As it will be my first time in Russia, I'm a bit concerned about safety, yes. I've travelled a lot in my life so that is not a problem. I can afford the plane andhotel easily, but I don't think I would know how to react IF she will start asking things to buy her. Anyhow, thanks for the great advice, and I'll keep you posted. wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/10/2006 11:34:09 PM   I don't know why the idea of being married and living apart from each other for some time seems impossible to some who are apparently unfamiliar with international dating. I have known one Asian person who was married to another Asian person from another country and lived more than 2K miles apart for 4 years because his job and her job were in different countries. It is difficult to cope with being away from each other for such a long time but not impossible. I know these two are now living together after she got pregnant which forced the decision for him to give up his job and move to her country. It is easy to beat up on the same target over and over again. I seem to be missing the point why peace is no better than pissing on each other. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/11/2006 6:19:38 AM   If I was 2K miles away from my girlfriend (wife) and she got pregnant. Id be asking some serious questions :)) wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/11/2006 9:41:41 AM   :) they were seeing each other, she was a flight attendant idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/11/2006 5:28:39 PM   Thomas. Get some snap ahots of her doing normal stuff. Get her phone number. Talk to her on the phone. Feel the thing out a bit more. Meeting in another city is ok, but one in the same country wold be better. Moscow is very expencive. Also, I have been to moscow and the 1 agaency I found there, though fiance.com did not have that many girls wanting to meet foriegners. Lots of people with money, good lifes in moscow, there seem happy and why not, i though it was an ok place to live. Also during warmer weather, lots of girls leave moscow to go on holidays. Summer is accually not that good a time to go. Not Auguest September anyway. So many girl in ther books were on holidays. Same thing in Ukraine. I met 1 girl in moscow and we had a great time, but she was leaving for a holday in St. Petersburg to some resort with friends in the countryside. Just get to know her better, and make sure she is not you only option Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > What to think about it...
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