At the risk of repeating myself, the posts of mine which have been disallowed in the past have been challenging fiance.com and it's processes and NOT the ladies in question.
I cannot understand why this is not a completely valid topic to post in a fiance.com related forum.
I also read Martin's post before it was removed, and while it did make an allegation about one of the profiles on here, I believe the main point was a challenge to fiance.com. If the point being made was not fair (and I make no judgement either way), then surely this should still be allowed forward as a debating point to be answered by a moderator or other users?
Obviously whoever approved it initially thought it was a legitimate post.
There was a time, not so long ago when this site had no censorship.
Unfortunately not everyone could behave in a reasonable fashion and so out of necessity, fiance.com had to, either remove the board, or introduce censorship as we now enjoy.
We pay a very small subscription to be able to write to many legitimate women and recieve their contact imformation. Sure there will be scammers that ask you for money, it is part of life and fiance.com do attempt to remove them.
Personally I wish they wouldnt remove the obvious scammers. They are not a bother to me and sometimes I find them quite entertaining.
Martin is not a paid up member here but for some reason, he spends his time viewing profiles and coming onto the board to bag fiance.com. I do not know what his purpose for this is.
The scammers that concern me are those that would have me to travel to the other side of the world, only find she is really only interested in shopping trips or a holiday abroad. They are the worst type of scammers. Or the ones that will marry you just for the green card.
If Martin could hunt out these types of scammers, it would be appreciated.
But no site can read the minds of the women for you.
It is impossible to have a totally benign site.
I really dont think fiance.com can reasonably do more than they do. From my experience Fiance.com is as about as clean a site as you are going to get.
I itemised the lady's information in my original post that the fiance.com 'Gestapo' deleted. Had they not been so quick off the mark to delete anything that questions the practices, or indeed finds a fault, of fiance.com then you wouldn't need to be asking me to repeat myself twice.
I really can't be bothered to repeat myself twice thus fiance.com, and their subscribers, need to live with it that there is at least one scammer on your site and espite fiance.com's claim that it verifies all ladies.
My posts are not up for initial approval, they go 'live' immediately, thus as soon as the Gestapo saw it they removed it, it would seem.
I do not spend my time browsing profiles on this or any other site. A forum member, a fiance.com subscriber, contacted me by email because he had concerns that the lady, her letters, seemed too good to be true. I did a little 'detective' work, only a few minutes, and detected that she is a scammer. I attempted to bring her to the attention of fiance.com because the other forum member wished to remain anonymous because he still hoped, despite his beliefs to the contrary, that she may be genuine.
Please don't try to hunt out who the other forum member may be, there's been a few of them that have contacted me recently.
it has been discussed many times on the forum. when profile that is suspected in scam is reported fiance.com put it on hold and investigate. also we have discussed many times here that sometimes girls getting to scam list , but they are not scammers. we do not want to blame somebody without proofs. that thread was deleted probably because links to the profiles were not functional, we could not find those profiles on the sites provided. again for everybody, please report all suspicious profiles to email@example.com.
we do not want scamemrs to be on fiance.com the same as all our members.
Like I said, I made no judgement on how reasonable Martin's post was or wasn't regarding the lady in question or fiance's culpability. He raised a legitimate question.
My argument is not that I agree with what he said. Nor is i that I disagree. Nor am I suggesting that fiance.com should be 100% scammer free. Obviously it would be nice, but nobody can claim to be 100% scammer free
My argument is purely about the censorship that I have seen practiced on this board AND NOTHING ELSE. Martin said nothing that was worse about any INDIVIDUAL than I have seen in many other posts that have been left on here. The difference was, that Martin's post mentioned fiance.com in a less than glowing light, whereas others have not mentioned fiance.
Why should this be removed? If the remark is unwarranted, then someone will surely shout it down, whether it is a moderator or other site official, or if it is any other member of the site. But to automatically remove ANYTHING that is is uncomplimentary about fiance.com is, I consider, a very dubious policy. Maybe I am raw about this because I have had posts denied that have questioned fiance.com in one way or another.
I find this censorship far more troubling than any amount of scammers who may or may not be lurking on these pages, because it carries a taste of dishonesty.
Martin, the profile you were referring to in the removed post - 68625 - has long been removed for investigation. Some posts in this topic have been removed because the links to scammers which the poster provided were not valid - they led to websites under construction or not existent. When we tried to contact the poster - he would not answer any emails. Therefore let me repeat myself - if there is any profile which you find suspicious - please report it to firstname.lastname@example.org or email@example.com - we will suspend that profile for further investigation.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'one more time for me'
PLEASE understand, My posts in this thread are NOT about ANY of the specific profiles on here. I am NOT trying to complain about a profile, and I have NEVER made or attempted to make a specific allegation about a specific profile through this message board, not on this thread nor any other. My specific allegations (and there are only two) have all gone direct to fiance.com. On this thread (As on other prior ones) I am simply voicing my concerns with the censorship that I have both witnessed and experienced firsthand on this board.
As I seem to be being asked to make specific allegations about profiles, then I have emailed two id's with supporting evidence in reply to Oleg's email to me just now. I have reported these before to service, but I may as well email them again. But it's still NOTHING AT ALL to do with this thread.
Regarding your post where you said about many emails which you had sent to fiance.com about scammers and suspicious profiles. I have checked all incoming mail at firstname.lastname@example.org since the beginning of this year - no emails from your email account have ever been received. We have also sent you two emails asking you to elaborate on your point or resend the messages you were referring to - but since September 25 - there was no response. Please send a message to email@example.com.